You are correct, faith is what is meant in ALL of the passages that speak of "belief" in Jesus. And faith is an action verb. It is not a passive, internal, invisible thing. Faith without action is worthless, meaningless, dead, and does not exist. There is no such thing as faith without action (James 2:20, 22, 24, 26).Actually faith.
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Spirit baptism occurs DURING water baptism, as Rom 6:1-7, Col 2:11-14, 1 Pet 3:21, Acts 8:36-37, Acts 2:38, Mark 16:16, and many other passages tell us.again, Water baptism does not save
spirit baptism does
maybe someday you will see this.. But I am worried you may not
yes faith is an action word. but it can also be a noun.You are correct, faith is what is meant in ALL of the passages that speak of "belief" in Jesus. And faith is an action verb. It is not a passive, internal, invisible thing. Faith without action is worthless, meaningless, dead, and does not exist. There is no such thing as faith without action (James 2:20, 22, 24, 26).
NOSpirit baptism occurs DURING water baptism, as Rom 6:1-7, Col 2:11-14, 1 Pet 3:21, Acts 8:36-37, Acts 2:38, Mark 16:16, and many other passages tell us.
Not according to Scripture. Repentance RESULTS IN being forgiven (Acts 3:19). Confession of Jesus as Lord RESULTS IN receiving salvation (Rom 10:9-10). Baptism RESULTS IN salvation (1 Pet 3:21, Acts 2:38, Acts 22:16, Acts 8:36-38, Gal 3:26-27, Eph 5:26-27, Rom 6:1-7, Col 2:11-14, and others).yes faith is an action word. but it can also be a noun.
Faith causes action
faith causes us to call out to Jesus, and when we do we are saved.
faith then calls us to do good works. like get baptized. which we do
Yes, there is ONE baptism, and it requires water (1 Pet 3:21, John 3:5, Acts 8:36-38, etc.). "Spirit baptism" is a phrase some human made up to try to differentiate between the truth and there false doctrine. The Spirit takes action to remove our sins during water baptism; that is "Spirit baptism".NO
there is on lord.. one faith. and one baptism.
You are trying to bring 2 baptisms into one.
your right until the baptism part.Not according to Scripture. Repentance RESULTS IN being forgiven (Acts 3:19). Confession of Jesus as Lord RESULTS IN receiving salvation (Rom 10:9-10). Baptism RESULTS IN salvation (1 Pet 3:21, Acts 2:38, Acts 22:16, Acts 8:36-38, Gal 3:26-27, Eph 5:26-27, Rom 6:1-7, Col 2:11-14, and others).
No it does not require waterYes, there is ONE baptism, and it requires water (1 Pet 3:21, John 3:5, Acts 8:36-38, etc.). "Spirit baptism" is a phrase some human made up to try to differentiate between the truth and there false doctrine. The Spirit takes action to remove our sins during water baptism; that is "Spirit baptism".
You may have thought you did. But Scripture says differently.
Apostasy - the abandonment or renunciation of a religious or political belief.
You are lost again when you enter into unrepentant sin.
Sure there is sin unto spiritual death. It is any sin for which we are unrepentant. That is what James 5 19-20 is talking about. A person who was in Christ has entered into unrepentant sin (like David was when he murdered Uriah and took Bathsheba). But when a righteous person came to him to point out his sin, he immediately turned back to God (repented). His soul was saved from death because he turned back to God in repentance.
I am right about all of it.your right until the baptism part.
Then you are saying that 1 Pet 3:21 is a lie? Or it isn't Scripture?No it does not require water
It doesn't matter that He didn't use the word baptize in John 3. It matters that He said you cannot enter the Kingdom of God without being reborn of both water AND the Spirit. Both are required.John 3 is not baptism. Jesus did not use the word baptize once
Give up the Truth? Never!! Get behind me, Satan!dude, give it up.
I cannot save myself. Jesus has done that for me. And I trust in what HE says over your interpretation of what He says.You want to save yourself go for it
You are "doing" playing games? I have never been playing games.I am dong playing games..
You don't accept the truth about what God says in His Word. You accept the lie that Satan has gotten most of those who call themselves the Church to believe.I trust in God and his word and his baptism..
You trust in whatever you want
Jesus - John 3:5No it doesn't. That is your judgement.
Let me remind of the requirements of "judgement".
2Co 13:1 This is the third time I am coming to you. In the mouth of two or three witnesses shall every word be established.
Deu 19:15 One witness shall not rise up against a man for any iniquity, or for any sin, in any sin that he sinneth: at the mouth of two witnesses, or at the mouth of three witnesses, shall the matter be established.
Where are your witnesses? I'm free from your assessment of me.
On ignoreI am right about all of it.
I teach no false doctrine. And I am continuously repenting of sins, both those that I recognize and those that I am ignorant of. I continually try to walk in the Light, and so His blood continually washes me of ALL my sins.No true at all.
There is sin in your life that you haven't repented of. One of those sin is the false doctrine you're now preaching.
That reflects more on you and your false doctrine than on me, because I am not teaching a false doctrine.Gal 1:9 As we have said before, and now I say again, if any one is preaching to you a gospel contrary to what you received, let him be condemned to hell!
I do however have the authority and mandate to point out false doctrine, and the errors that people teach, and turn them back to the truth. And all of the people on this forum (and everywhere else in the world) who teach the doctrine of salvation before baptism are teaching a false doctrine.You don't have the authority to declare anyone that extolls the value of the name of Jesus Christ as being accursed.
We do not know how old the child was when he died, or how long after he took Bathsheba into his house that the prophet came to point out the sin to David. But we do know it was at least some good amount of time.David lived in sin for a very long time. How long do you think it took between the time David sought to murder a man because that man's wife was carrying his child.... and when David repented?
Where do you get this nonsense? Yes, God is very merciful to all. All have sinned, yet He has not immediately blasted each person the instant they sinned. That is mercy.I suppose you don't recognize the mercy of God for anyone but yourself.
Jesus - John 3:5
Peter - 1 Pet 3:21
Paul - Rom 6:1-7, Col 2:11-14
Luke - Acts 8:36-38
Need I go on?
Put your head in the sand and hide from the truth, go ahead. It doesn't change the truth just because you hide from it.On ignore
Your pride is deep my friend
I teach no false doctrine. And I am continuously repenting of sins, both those that I recognize and those that I am ignorant of. I continually try to walk in the Light, and so His blood continually washes me of ALL my sins.
That reflects more on you and your false doctrine than on me, because I am not teaching a false doctrine.
I do however have the authority and mandate to point out false doctrine, and the errors that people teach, and turn them back to the truth. And all of the people on this forum (and everywhere else in the world) who teach the doctrine of salvation before baptism are teaching a false doctrine.
We do not know how old the child was when he died, or how long after he took Bathsheba into his house that the prophet came to point out the sin to David. But we do know it was at least some good amount of time.
Where do you get this nonsense? Yes, God is very merciful to all. All have sinned, yet He has not immediately blasted each person the instant they sinned. That is mercy.
I am not the witness. They are the witnesses. And their words are Scripture, meaning they are God's words (I should have listed Him as a witness also).You didn't write those verses nor receive them via revelation. Thusly, you're not a witness to them.
You are rambling and trying to distract from the point we are discussing.So I'll ask again. Where are your witnesses to judge me? Did you read what I referenced?
Let me add to it. Jesus appealed to this when he wrote....
Mat 18:15 Moreover if thy brother shall trespass against thee, go and tell him his fault between thee and him alone: if he shall hear thee, thou hast gained thy brother.
Mat 18:16 But if he will not hear thee, then take with thee one or two more, that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established.
This is the very principle of why Jesus forgave the women taken in the very act of adultery even though she didn't ask anything of Jesus.
Joh 8:3 And the scribes and Pharisees brought unto him a woman taken in adultery; and when they had set her in the midst,
Joh 8:4 They say unto him, Master, this woman was taken in adultery, in the very act.
Joh 8:5 Now Moses in the law commanded us, that such should be stoned: but what sayest thou?
Joh 8:6 This they said, tempting him, that they might have to accuse him. But Jesus stooped down, and with his finger wrote on the ground, as though he heard them not.
Joh 8:7 So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her.
Joh 8:8 And again he stooped down, and wrote on the ground.
Joh 8:9 And they which heard it, being convicted by their own conscience, went out one by one, beginning at the eldest, even unto the last: and Jesus was left alone, and the woman standing in the midst.
Joh 8:10 When Jesus had lifted up himself, and saw none but the woman, he said unto her, Woman, where are those thine accusers? hath no man condemned thee?
Joh 8:11 She said, No man, Lord. And Jesus said unto her, Neither do I condemn thee: go, and sin no more.
Not one word from this women asking anything of Jesus. Not one word.
Sure you can. Psalm 19:12 shows the psalmist asking God to "forgive me of my hidden faults".You can't repent of sin that you're ignorant of.
I don't have that authority because I am God's Son! I am not the Christ. But I do have His mandate to watch those who call themselves my brothers and sisters in Christ and help to point out faults they have (as do ALL who are in Christ). We are called to continually be on our guard against false doctrines in the Church, and to teach the truth. Thus I do have the mandate from God to point out your false doctrines.I don't believe you. Even Jesus spoke of how the Father witnessed to Him. We have the record of GOD HIMSELF saying audibly in front of many witnesses...
"This is my beloved son"......
Will you claim the same thing?
I am not the witness. They are the witnesses. And their words are Scripture, meaning they are God's words (I should have listed Him as a witness also).
You are rambling and trying to distract from the point we are discussing.
We are discussing your belief that you were saved when you had a thought in your head/heart. And then many months later you were baptized. Scripture teaches that you are saved when you are baptized, not when thought you were. So you believed a false feeling.
