Rockson
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Where has anyone said this to you here? Maybe they have but I can't find it.
Did God, forsake Jesus on the cross?
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It’s a mindset. It doesn’t matter if a person has said so or not. You never know what a face behind the computer is thinking… assumptions can be made, discerned… in the end.
What really makes us right with Yahavah, is his Son whom we believe on in faith, whom did all the work we could never do.
I’m just saying it… you understand that right. You can’t see my face or hear my voice. Sorry about that.
Can’t teach old dogs new tricks… at least that is a saying…
I don’t know if you have trouble reading or not, but surely you can’t have trouble reading… go slower?
Frank Russell
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Reminds me of "anyone who has died has been set free from sin" Romans 6:7
civic
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Thanks for the personal insults. That unlike you Matthew.
civic
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There are a few guys on the forum I have conversations with on the phone on a regular basis, even FaceTime.
If you feel insulted… that is a personal problem.
Don’t care. May God bless you in your endeavors. Friends or no friends. I’m not here to impress or fit in with anyone. Just share, people can consider it or reject it.There are a few guys on the forum I have conversations with on the phone on a regular basis, even FaceTime.
civic
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Same with me I teach/preach the gospel of Jesus Christ alone. There is no Savior but Him- The Father and Holy Spirit are not mans Savior- Jesus is the Savior of the World. Faith in Him alone saves one from their sins- He forgives one of their sins, He is the Judge over all mankind for their sins. He is the Creator of all mankind, all the world, universe and all it contains. He is Before all created things and in Him all things exist. He holds all things together.
Why ? because He is God like Jesus said, the Prophets proclaimed and the Apostles affirmed.
Bible Basics 101. To deny this is to deny the One Savior of the World, the One Lord, the One Creator, the One God, the One Gospel by which all men are saved. For there is no other NAME by which men are SAVED- Jesus ALONE !!!!
AMEN ! Hallelujah ! PRAISE HIS HOLY NAME !!!!!
ALL of HEAVEN WORSHIPS HIM. Rev 5 and 22.
hope this helps !!!
civic
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And GOD forsaking God is an OXYMORON. Unbiblical. A Contradiction, An Impossibility as I have demonstrated with NUMERSOUS scriptures that affirm its true in this thread. They remain ignored is spite of them revealing the truth that Jesus was never forsaken or abandoned by the Father.
The following scriptures affirm that Jesus' relationship with the Father on the cross was still there and not broken.
Psalm 22:24
For he has not despised or scorned
the suffering of the afflicted one;
he has not hidden his face from him
but has listened to his cry for help.
Luke 23:46
Jesus called out with a loud voice, "Father, into your hands I commit my spirit." When he had said this, he breathed his last.
John 16:32
"A time is coming and in fact has come when you will be scattered, each to your own home. You will leave me all alone. Yet I am not alone, for my Father is with me."
Hebrews 5:7
During the days of Jesus’ life on earth, he offered up prayers and petitions with fervent cries and tears to the one who could save him from death, and he was heard because of his reverent submission.
hope this helps !!!
The following scriptures affirm that Jesus' relationship with the Father on the cross was still there and not broken.
Psalm 22:24
For he has not despised or scorned
the suffering of the afflicted one;
he has not hidden his face from him
but has listened to his cry for help.
Luke 23:46
Jesus called out with a loud voice, "Father, into your hands I commit my spirit." When he had said this, he breathed his last.
John 16:32
"A time is coming and in fact has come when you will be scattered, each to your own home. You will leave me all alone. Yet I am not alone, for my Father is with me."
Hebrews 5:7
During the days of Jesus’ life on earth, he offered up prayers and petitions with fervent cries and tears to the one who could save him from death, and he was heard because of his reverent submission.
hope this helps !!!
civic
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Readers can read it here
civic
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And they can read the truth on our blog here that proves beyond all doubt Jesus was not ever forsaken for a millisecond by the Father. Its nothing but an unbiblical MYTH. It comes from not discerning the bible correctly. It comes from eisegesis taking a verse and isolating it from the rest of the Bible that opposes that view. All the cults and false teachers use that method to teach heresy ( isolating a verse ) and creating a false doctrine.
mccafferty1.site
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And they can read the truth on our blog here that proves beyond all doubt Jesus was not ever forsaken for a millisecond by the Father. Its nothing but an unbiblical MYTH. It comes from not discerning the bible correctly. It comes from eisegesis taking a verse and isolating it from the rest of the Bible that opposes that view. All the cults and false teachers use that method to teach heresy ( isolating a verse ) and creating a false doctrine.
Living Sacrifice
If you say so… it’s the readers decision… you proclaiming your faith doesn’t make you any more special than anyone else who believes God in Faith, rose his Son up from the dead.
Just because you disagree with something that doesn’t sit your way, doesn’t mean it is not right…
Sorry you are upset and went on a tangent, but there is much one can do when someone desires to ride the tail of someone else’s opinion.
In the end I don’t care what you believe about Jesus… as long as you believe in God and the one whom he had sent and desire to love them, over friends, family… the better off someone is to love their neighbor as themselves.
“Regardless of your decision to not suggest that God did not leave Christ” on the cross which is the topic it hand. Thank you for sharing your subjective opinion concerning it.
Thank you for sharing other peoples subjective opinion about it concerning the matter. In the end it is the reader themselves who decide…
I believe God forsook Jesus on the cross, and there was a reason why… because of the body taking on sin, … thus Jesus and Yahavah become separated, in which he cries “My God, My God, why have you forsaken me?,” …
Either it was true or it was just a “feeling.”
I accept it as truth personally, @civic and it’s not out of spite for all religious folk out there.
There is no, other subjective opinion to take other than, perhaps Jesus was not fulfilling was was promised to happen, though forsaken for a moment in time… Yahavah never forgot about his son, nor failed in his promises concerning him.
It would be different if he “forgot” about his son.
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civic
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No tangent just making the truth known to the readers. There is a difference. It’s like saying your thread here is a tangent because of the links here today that were on this forum from the beginning on the topic.
Other peoples opinions are not always truth… people must decide for themselves… all one can do is consider those opinions, but check it against scripture by the spirit…
Not just shaking a hand, @civic.
civic
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I just gave you several scriptures showing Jesus was never forsaken. You have not dealt with a single one of them but ignored them. Why is that ?
Scripture is not something to be dogmatic on… it’s on copies of copies of copies… I believe for the most part it can be trusted but something in the Bible could be have edited within its pages…
The Bible is great and a wonderful gift, but the spirit is always primary…
Over all other things, because the spirit of peace and having harmony with one another always brings love.
I’m glad you disagree it’s God forsaking Christ, and that is just a wonderful thing, but still begs the question of why Jesus is saying that he is leaving him, there on the cross alone to die… which still goes unexplained… it was the body of sin, which Yahava and his Word became separated…
No one yet has explained why, God moved out of Christ by forsaking him…
Why? Cause people don’t believe it’s true.
The Bible is great and a wonderful gift, but the spirit is always primary…
Over all other things, because the spirit of peace and having harmony with one another always brings love.
I’m glad you disagree it’s God forsaking Christ, and that is just a wonderful thing, but still begs the question of why Jesus is saying that he is leaving him, there on the cross alone to die… which still goes unexplained… it was the body of sin, which Yahava and his Word became separated…
No one yet has explained why, God moved out of Christ by forsaking him…
Why? Cause people don’t believe it’s true.
I go by the spirit… not some rote scriptures systemically written out….
Who cares that you shared scripture that provides evidence that Yahavah did not forsake Jesus?
You saying Jesus was lying? God didn’t forsake him?
You see how diverting you can be by just saying “oh I showed you scripture; case closed!”
civic
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Yet you believe the solitary “ rote” scripture saying why have you forsaken me. Oh the irony
No you are saying all theses scriptures are lies and Jesus lied below .
Psalm 22:24
For he has not despised or scorned
the suffering of the afflicted one;
he has not hidden his face from him
but has listened to his cry for help.
Luke 23:46
Jesus called out with a loud voice, "Father, into your hands I commit my spirit." When he had said this, he breathed his last.
John 16:32
"A time is coming and in fact has come when you will be scattered, each to your own home. You will leave me all alone. Yet I am not alone, for my Father is with me."
Hebrews 5:7
During the days of Jesus’ life on earth, he offered up prayers and petitions with fervent cries and tears to the one who could save him from death, and he was heard because of his reverent submission.
Yet you believe the solitary “ rote” scripture saying why have you forsaken me. Oh the irony
No you are saying all theses scriptures are lies and Jesus lied below .
Psalm 22:24
For he has not despised or scorned
the suffering of the afflicted one;
he has not hidden his face from him
but has listened to his cry for help.
Luke 23:46
Jesus called out with a loud voice, "Father, into your hands I commit my spirit." When he had said this, he breathed his last.
John 16:32
"A time is coming and in fact has come when you will be scattered, each to your own home. You will leave me all alone. Yet I am not alone, for my Father is with me."
Hebrews 5:7
During the days of Jesus’ life on earth, he offered up prayers and petitions with fervent cries and tears to the one who could save him from death, and he was heard because of his reverent submission.
Duh… we know that… but for a moment he was forsaken… why can’t you answer that?
You just say no he wasnt… see these scriptures!
”My God, my God, why have you left me? You seem too far away to save me, too far to hear my cries for help!“
Psalms 22:1 ERV
Either he was or he wasn’t… you need to make up your mind… cause going over these things constantly with you can be annoying.
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