Deliverance from Calvinism

[FreeInChrist]

Does not matter what TomL said, man is spiritually dead by nature to the Spiritual things of God, so he can only be at enmity against them

Bet you will be so happy when you get to heaven that no free will will be there.... just you people and those from Israel.

 

[civic]

Bet you will be so happy when you get to heaven that no free will will be there.... just you people and those from Israel.

I-robot

 

[TedT]

Bet you will be so happy when you get to heaven that no free will will be there.... just you people and those from Israel.

I-robot

The reference I see is Stepford wives and a Borg wedding...

 

[Angelo]

The New Testament seeks to clarify, not to mystify, the gospel!

Are not predestination and authentic human freedom of choice both part of “the mystery of the gospel” and integral components of God’s redemptive plan?

Since the Bible nowhere presents predestination as something that continues to be mysterious and hidden, what would now be the point of mystifying this basic truth of the gospel?

In these references the recurrent phrase, “make known the mystery of the gospel.”

2 Assuming that you have heard of the stewardship of God’s grace (His unmerited favor) that was entrusted to me [to dispense to you] for your benefit,
3 [And] that the mystery (secret) was made known to me and I was allowed to comprehend it by direct revelation, as I already briefly wrote you.
4 When you read this you can understand my insight into the mystery of Christ.
5 [This mystery] was never disclosed to human beings in past generations as it has now been revealed to His holy apostles (consecrated messengers) and prophets by the [Holy] Spirit.
6 [It is this:] that the Gentiles are now to be fellow heirs [with the Jews], members of the same body and joint partakers [sharing] in the same divine promise in Christ through [their acceptance of] the glad tidings (the Gospel).
Eph 3:2–6.

9 Also to enlighten all men and make plain to them what is the plan [regarding the Gentiles and providing for the salvation of all men] of the mystery kept hidden through the ages and concealed until now in [the mind of] God Who created all things by Christ Jesus.
10 [The purpose is] that through the church the complicated, many-sided wisdom of God in all its infinite variety and innumerable aspects might now be made known to the angelic rulers and authorities (principalities and powers) in the heavenly sphere.
Eph 3:9–10.

Paul never attempted to relegate predestination, election, choice, or free will to the realm of hidden things. Nevertheless, Calvin maintained that God not only had a “revealed” will, but also a “secret” will, which was different from, and could even contradict, His declared will.

Let me assure you straight up that God does not have a second, secret will that acts independently of, and can be at variance with, His revealed will. Paul knew that we could always trust our heavenly Father to be totally straight and up-front with His children.

 

[civic]

The New Testament seeks to clarify, not to mystify, the gospel!

Are not predestination and authentic human freedom of choice both part of “the mystery of the gospel” and integral components of God’s redemptive plan?

Since the Bible nowhere presents predestination as something that continues to be mysterious and hidden, what would now be the point of mystifying this basic truth of the gospel?

In these references the recurrent phrase, “make known the mystery of the gospel.”



Paul never attempted to relegate predestination, election, choice, or free will to the realm of hidden things. Nevertheless, Calvin maintained that God not only had a “revealed” will, but also a “secret” will, which was different from, and could even contradict, His declared will.

Let me assure you straight up that God does not have a second, secret will that acts independently of, and can be at variance with, His revealed will. Paul knew that we could always trust our heavenly Father to be totally straight and up-front with His children.

Yes the 2 wills of God fallacy a bunch of bologna

 

[FreeInChrist]

The reference I see is Stepford wives and a Borg wedding...

 

[brightfame52]

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Btw that signature you have by Cheryl Schatz is not biblical. With Drawing comes full conversion to Christ, Spiritual Hearing and. Obedience to the Faith. Give God the Glory !

 

[FreeInChrist]

Btw that signature you have by Cheryl Schatz is not biblical. With Drawing comes full conversion to Christ, Spiritual Hearing and. Obedience to the Faith. Give God the Glory !

BTW neither one of us is predestined so neither one of us has to follow what you say

 

[civic]

Btw that signature you have by Cheryl Schatz is not biblical. With Drawing comes full conversion to Christ, Spiritual Hearing and. Obedience to the Faith. Give God the Glory !

Nope another fallacy