GINOLJC, to all.
Maybe this might clear up some confusion. the Lord Jesus return is twofold in nature. his first return was at Pentecost, IN "Spirit". to understand this one must have a basic understanding of the scriptures. three scriptures to NOTE,
Matthew 16:28" Verily I say unto you, There be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom”. and Mark 9:1" And he said unto them, Verily I say unto you, That there be some of them that stand here, which shall not taste of death, till they have seen the kingdom of God come with power”. and lastly Luke 9:27 "But I tell you of a truth, there be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the kingdom of God”.
of note: the Kingdom of God..... not the Kingdom of Heaven ..... came on the day of Pentecost, (Act chapter 2). for the Son of Man.... not the Son of God .... but the Son of Man, (who is Spiritual, the resurrected, and Glorified Christ, Per John 17:5), returned on Pentecost in Spirit, the Holy Spirit, for the KINGDOM of God is the Lord JESUS, the Glorified Christ, the Holy Spirit. for the KINGDOM of GOD is within us. Luke 17:20 "And when he was demanded of the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said, The kingdom of God cometh not with observation:" Luke 17:21 "Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you."
Note: this return is in Spirit, which was foretold by the prophet Joel, 2:28 & 29. this first, NOTE, "FIRST" RETURN ... not a COMMING, but a RETURN is in Spirit, NOT SEEN by the naked eye, (per Luke 17:20 above). but his "SECOND" COMING.... NOTE, COMING, not a RETURN, but his SECOND "COMING" or his Parousia, will be see by EVERY EYE. supportive scripture for both A. Return, and B. Second coming.
A. "First Return" in appearance as tongue of Fire/Spirit. Hebrews 9:28 "So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation." appear? yes, NOTE, not to Manifest, but to appear. Acts 2:1 "And when the day of Pentecost was fully come, they were all with one accord in one place." Acts 2:2 "And suddenly there came a sound from heaven as of a rushing mighty wind, and it filled all the house where they were sitting." Acts 2:3 "And there appeared unto them cloven tongues like as of fire, and it sat upon each of them." Acts 2:4 "And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance." and was this return for salvation? yes, hear the apostle Peter sermon on Pentecost. Acts 2:38 "Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost." Acts 2:39 "For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call." Acts 2:40 "And with many other words did he testify and exhort, saying, Save yourselves from this untoward generation."
B. "SECOND COMING". Note, not a return, but the SECOND COMING, and EVERY EYE WILL SEE, SEE, SEE, him. Revelation 1:7 "Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen." . this is his Parousia. THIS IS THE SECOND COMING.
now, the Last bit of INFORMATION. he who sits as the Ancient of days, per Daniel 7:9 "I beheld till the thrones were cast down, and the Ancient of days did sit, whose garment was white as snow, and the hair of his head like the pure wool: his throne was like the fiery flame, and his wheels as burning fire." Daniel 7:10 "A fiery stream issued and came forth from before him: thousand thousands ministered unto him, and ten thousand times ten thousand stood before him: the judgment was set, and the books were opened." this is the same ONE .... in the ECHAD as LAST/Son. let's compare the description of the Ancient of days, to the resurrected Christ in Revelation 1:13 "And in the midst of the seven candlesticks one like unto the Son of man, clothed with a garment down to the foot, and girt about the paps with a golden girdle." Revelation 1:14 "His head and his hairs were white like wool, as white as snow; and his eyes were as a flame of fire;" Revelation 1:15 "And his feet like unto fine brass, as if they burned in a furnace; and his voice as the sound of many waters."
Please note, each one head of Hair, " pure wool/white like wool". both feet, "and his wheels as burning fire/ feet like unto fine brass, as if they burned in a furnace". both eyes, "A fiery stream issued and came forth from before him/and his eyes were as a flame of fire". both garment, "whose garment was white as snow/Son of man, clothed with a garment down to the foot," question, "is the Christ garment white also?" yes, Revelation 3:4 "Thou hast a few names even in Sardis which have not defiled their garments; and they shall walk with me in white: for they are worthy."
this is the same one PERSON in the ECHAD of FIRST/Father, and LAST/Son.... Oh my God. this is too easy not to be understood. the Ordinal First and Last in TIME, PLACE, ORDER, and RANK..... (smile).... Oh my.
and one more thing, when the Kingdom is given up to God, 1 Corinthians 15:27 "For he hath put all things under his feet. But when he saith, all things are put under him, it is manifest that he is excepted, which did put all things under him."
1 Corinthians 15:28 "And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all."
now, to understand "that God may be all in all" is predicated on his KILLER word, "be subject". this is not what you think it is, 101G suggest many better find out what "BE SUBJECT" really means, before one draws a wrong conclusion.
be well ....... (smile).... hopefully.
101G.
P.S. 101G suggest that a re-reading of this post carefully is needed. First, no, there is no Rapture. but a gathering upon his second..... "COMING". but to understand this, this coming is after the Great tribulation. supportive scripture, Matthew 24:21 "For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be."
WHEN is your coming of this GREAT TRIBULATION? answer, Matthew 24:29 "Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:" Great do not mean a single event in time, no Great means over a LONG period of Time. and it started after Pentecost, for all the apostles, and any who carried the word of God was in TRIBULATION supportive example, Revelation 1:9 "I John, who also am your brother, and companion in tribulation, and in the kingdom and patience of Jesus Christ, was in the isle that is called Patmos, for the word of God, and for the testimony of Jesus Christ."
yes, John as well as all who testified of the Lord Jesus was IN, IN, IN, tribulation, and that persecution of the word of God continue even until today, even as we speak. the rejection of the truth is still ongoing, and many are hatters of the truth, yes, even TO..... DAY.