Christ The God-Man

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CHRIST THE GOD-MAN
The following chart provides a helpful summation of some of the overwhelming biblical data, which confirms that Jesus is the God-Man, the eternal God that became human and who, by virtue of his physical resurrection unto immortality, shall forever exist as both God and Man.

GOD MAN

He is God (Isa. 9:6; Matt. 1:22-23; Luke 8:39; John 1:1; 20:28; Acts 20:28; Rom. 9:5; Tit. 2:13; Heb. 1:8-9; 2 Pet. 1:1)

Son of God (Matt. 14:33; 16:13-17; Mark 3:11; 15:39; Luke 1:32-35; 1 Cor. 1:9; 2 Cor. 1:19; 1 Thess. 1:9-10)

As God he is Spirit (Mark 2:8; 1 Cor. 15:45 – cf. John 4:24)

God is his Father (Mark 1:11; 9:27; 14:36; Luke 23:46; 2 John 1:3; Rev. 2:18; 3:5)

Eternal (Micah 5:2; John 1:1; 8:56-59; 17:5; Col. 1:17)

Unchangeable (Heb. 1:10-12; 13:8)

Omniscient (Mark 2:8-9; John 2:23-25; 16:29-30; 21:17; Col. 2:2-3)

He is life and gives eternal life (John 1:4; 5:21, 25-26, 28-29; 6:39-44, 54, 57; Acts 3:15; 10:28; 11:25-26; 14:6)

The Bread of life/ Sustainer (John 1:4; 4:10-14; 6:35-36; 7:38-39; Col. 1:17; Heb. 1:3)

Gives rest for the weary (Matt. 11:28-30)

Receives worship and is prayed to (Matt. 2:2, 8, 11; 14:33; 15:25; 20:20; 28:9, 17; Mark 5:6; Luke 24:50-53; John 5:23; 14:13-14; Acts 1:24; 7:59-60; 9:14, 21; 1 Cor. 1:2-3; 16:22-23; 2 Cor. 12:7-10; 1 Thess. 3:11-13; 2 Thess. 2:16-17; Heb. 1:6; Rev. 1:5-6; 5:8-14; 22:20-21)

He is sinless, holy and righteous (John 7:18; 8:29, 46; Acts 3:14; 7:52; 22:14; 2 Cor. 5:21; Heb. 4:15; 7:26; 9:14; 1 Pet. 1:18-19; 2:22; 3:18; 1 John 2:1; 3:3, 5, 7, 9-10; Rev. 3:7, 14)

He is Man (Zech. 13:7; John 8:40; Acts 17:31; 1 Tim. 2:5)

Son of Mary (Matt. 1:16, 18-25; Mark 6:3; John 19:25-27; Gal. 4:4)

As Man he has a physical body of flesh and bones (Luke 24:39-43; John 20:24-27; Acts 2:24-32; Rom. 1:3; 9:5; 1 Cor. 15:46-49)

The Father is his God (Mark 15:34; John 20:17; 2 Cor. 1:3; 11:31; Eph. 1:3, 17; Rev. 1:6; 3:2, 12)

Born (Matt. 2:1-6, 11; Luke 2:1-7)

Grew over time (Luke 2:40, 52)

Didn’t know the day or hour (Matt. 24:36; Mark 13:32)

Died, buried, and has become deathless (Mark 15:37-47; 16:1-20; John 19:30-42; 20:1-29; Romans 6:7-10; 1 Cor. 15:3-6; Heb. 2:9-15; 7:16, 24-25; Rev. 1:17-18; 2:8)

Hungered and thirsted (John 4:3-9)

Slept (Mark 4:35-41)

Worships and prays to the Father (Matt. 26:39-44; Mark 6:46; Luke 3:21; 5:16; Heb. 5:7)

Was tempted (Mark 1:12-13; 4:1-11; Luke 4:1-12)


J.
 
CHRIST THE GOD-MAN
The following chart provides a helpful summation of some of the overwhelming biblical data, which confirms that Jesus is the God-Man, the eternal God that became human and who, by virtue of his physical resurrection unto immortality, shall forever exist as both God and Man.
JESUS is the Man who is God. now, 101G have a question. "as the God .. man, how much of the Spirit was G2758 κενόω kenoo (ke-no-ō') 1. to make empty., while the Spirit was in that flesh". A. was all of the Spirit was made empty while in that flesh. or B. none of the Spirit. remember, Philippians 2:6 "Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:"

so, how much of the Spirit was made empty? looking for your response.

101G.
 
JESUS is the Man who is God. now, 101G have a question. "as the God .. man, how much of the Spirit was G2758 κενόω kenoo (ke-no-ō') 1. to make empty., while the Spirit was in that flesh". A. was all of the Spirit was made empty while in that flesh. or B. none of the Spirit. remember, Philippians 2:6 "Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:"

so, how much of the Spirit was made empty? looking for your response.

101G.
Are you trying to dokimazo or ekpeirazō me?

J.
 
just address the scriptures.

101G.
The kenosis of Jesus, derived from Philippians 2:7 ("but emptied Himself, taking the form of a servant, being made in human likeness"), was a topic that Early Church Fathers (ECFs) addressed primarily in the context of Christology.

Their writings focused on safeguarding the full divinity and humanity of Christ while interpreting what it meant for Him to "empty Himself."

Below is an exploration of how prominent Church Fathers addressed the kenosis:

1. Irenaeus of Lyons (c. 130–202)
Irenaeus emphasized the economy of salvation—God’s plan unfolding through Christ’s incarnation. He interpreted the kenosis as Christ willingly taking on human flesh to reverse the effects of Adam’s disobedience.
He highlighted the humility of Christ in assuming human nature, but without any diminution of His divinity. For Irenaeus, the "emptying" was an act of divine condescension for the sake of humanity's redemption.

2. Athanasius of Alexandria (c. 296–373)

Athanasius, in On the Incarnation, stressed that the Son did not cease to be divine when He became human. He saw the kenosis as an expression of Christ’s love and humility, rather than a literal loss of divine attributes.
He taught that the Word took on human limitations (such as suffering and death) without altering or reducing His divine nature. For Athanasius, the kenosis was about addition—Christ adding humanity to His divinity—rather than subtraction.

3. Gregory of Nazianzus (c. 329–390)

Gregory famously addressed the kenosis in his Theological Orations. He maintained that Christ, in His incarnation, voluntarily accepted the limitations of human existence while remaining fully divine.
Gregory opposed any notion that the divine nature was subject to change, emphasizing instead that the "emptying" referred to Christ’s assumption of the servant's role and not a relinquishing of divinity. He used the analogy of light passing through a lens—it is fully present but adapted to its context.

4. Cyril of Alexandria (c. 376–444)

Cyril, a central figure in the debates leading to the Council of Ephesus (431), wrote extensively about the unity of Christ's divine and human natures.
He interpreted the kenosis as Christ voluntarily choosing to experience human life in its fullness, including suffering and death. Cyril stressed that Christ's divine attributes were not "emptied" but rather concealed during the incarnation.

He opposed Nestorian views, which implied a separation between the divine and human aspects of Christ, emphasizing instead the unity of the person of Jesus Christ.


5. John Chrysostom (c. 347–407)

In his homilies on Philippians, Chrysostom explained the kenosis as Christ humbling Himself by taking on human form and living in obedience, even to the point of death.
He highlighted the contrast between Christ’s divine prerogatives and His earthly humility, focusing on the moral and salvific aspects of the kenosis—Christ’s obedience and self-emptying serve as the ultimate model for Christian humility.

6. Leo the Great (c. 400–461)

Leo’s Tome (a key document at the Council of Chalcedon in 451) addressed the kenosis in the context of the hypostatic union—the unity of Christ's two natures.
He taught that Christ’s "emptying" did not involve a diminishment of His divinity but rather His assumption of true humanity. Leo’s explanation affirmed that Christ remained fully divine while fully participating in human experience.


Common Themes in ECF Writings on Kenosis
a. The Fullness of Divinity Retained

The Fathers unanimously rejected any interpretation suggesting that Christ ceased to be God or that His divine attributes were diminished. Instead, they affirmed that the "emptying" referred to Christ’s humility in assuming a servant’s form.

b. Voluntary Assumption of Human Nature

The kenosis was understood as a voluntary act of condescension, where the Son of God chose to take on the limitations of humanity for the purpose of salvation.

c. Christ as the Model of Humility

The Fathers emphasized the moral and spiritual significance of the kenosis for believers, presenting Christ’s humility and self-sacrifice as a model for Christian living.

d. Unity of Natures in the Person of Christ
The Fathers consistently stressed the unity of Christ’s divine and human natures. His divinity was never compromised, even as He experienced the full reality of human existence.


Conclusion
The ECFs interpreted the kenosis of Jesus not as a relinquishment of divine attributes but as the divine Son taking on human nature and its limitations. Their writings protected the orthodox view of Christ's full divinity and humanity, emphasizing the kenosis as a mystery of humility and love. The Fathers saw in the kenosis the ultimate act of divine condescension, accomplished for the redemption of humanity, and an example of self-giving humility for all Christians to emulate.

Praise God for the writings of the ECF's!

J.
 
he kenosis of Jesus, derived from Philippians 2:7 ("but emptied Himself, taking the form of a servant, being made in human likeness"), was a topic that Early Church Fathers (ECFs) addressed primarily in the context of Christology.
NOW, how much of God, ..... the Spirit, that JESUS empty himself of? your response please.

101G.
 
NOW, how much of God, ..... the Spirit, that JESUS empty himself of? your response please.

101G.
Since you are not interested in reading what I have just posted to you I am under no obligation to answer any of your questions.

Thanks.

J.
 
Since you are not interested in reading what I have just posted to you I am under no obligation to answer any of your questions.

Thanks.

J.
That's all 101G needs to Know. you cannot answer.
good day to you.

101G.
 
He is God (Isa. 9:6
GINOLJC,
Isaiah 9:6 "For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace."

now 101's first question, was God BORN? or was the flesh Born, and the Almighty Spirit dwelt in, dwelt in, dwelt in that flesh which was born.

the reason why 101G ask this question, 2 Corinthians 5:19 "To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation."

so, 101G ask, " was God born?", or was Christ Born? which one. before you answer, read the first part of Isaiah 9:6 carefully, and then 2 Corinthians 5:19.

101G.
 
CHRIST THE GOD-MAN
The following chart provides a helpful summation of some of the overwhelming biblical data, which confirms that Jesus is the God-Man, the eternal God that became human and who, by virtue of his physical resurrection unto immortality, shall forever exist as both God and Man.

GOD MAN

He is God (Isa. 9:6; Matt. 1:22-23; Luke 8:39; John 1:1; 20:28; Acts 20:28; Rom. 9:5; Tit. 2:13; Heb. 1:8-9; 2 Pet. 1:1)

Son of God (Matt. 14:33; 16:13-17; Mark 3:11; 15:39; Luke 1:32-35; 1 Cor. 1:9; 2 Cor. 1:19; 1 Thess. 1:9-10)

As God he is Spirit (Mark 2:8; 1 Cor. 15:45 – cf. John 4:24)

God is his Father (Mark 1:11; 9:27; 14:36; Luke 23:46; 2 John 1:3; Rev. 2:18; 3:5)

Eternal (Micah 5:2; John 1:1; 8:56-59; 17:5; Col. 1:17)

Unchangeable (Heb. 1:10-12; 13:8)

Omniscient (Mark 2:8-9; John 2:23-25; 16:29-30; 21:17; Col. 2:2-3)

He is life and gives eternal life (John 1:4; 5:21, 25-26, 28-29; 6:39-44, 54, 57; Acts 3:15; 10:28; 11:25-26; 14:6)

The Bread of life/ Sustainer (John 1:4; 4:10-14; 6:35-36; 7:38-39; Col. 1:17; Heb. 1:3)

Gives rest for the weary (Matt. 11:28-30)

Receives worship and is prayed to (Matt. 2:2, 8, 11; 14:33; 15:25; 20:20; 28:9, 17; Mark 5:6; Luke 24:50-53; John 5:23; 14:13-14; Acts 1:24; 7:59-60; 9:14, 21; 1 Cor. 1:2-3; 16:22-23; 2 Cor. 12:7-10; 1 Thess. 3:11-13; 2 Thess. 2:16-17; Heb. 1:6; Rev. 1:5-6; 5:8-14; 22:20-21)

He is sinless, holy and righteous (John 7:18; 8:29, 46; Acts 3:14; 7:52; 22:14; 2 Cor. 5:21; Heb. 4:15; 7:26; 9:14; 1 Pet. 1:18-19; 2:22; 3:18; 1 John 2:1; 3:3, 5, 7, 9-10; Rev. 3:7, 14)

He is Man (Zech. 13:7; John 8:40; Acts 17:31; 1 Tim. 2:5)

Son of Mary (Matt. 1:16, 18-25; Mark 6:3; John 19:25-27; Gal. 4:4)

As Man he has a physical body of flesh and bones (Luke 24:39-43; John 20:24-27; Acts 2:24-32; Rom. 1:3; 9:5; 1 Cor. 15:46-49)

The Father is his God (Mark 15:34; John 20:17; 2 Cor. 1:3; 11:31; Eph. 1:3, 17; Rev. 1:6; 3:2, 12)

Born (Matt. 2:1-6, 11; Luke 2:1-7)

Grew over time (Luke 2:40, 52)

Didn’t know the day or hour (Matt. 24:36; Mark 13:32)

Died, buried, and has become deathless (Mark 15:37-47; 16:1-20; John 19:30-42; 20:1-29; Romans 6:7-10; 1 Cor. 15:3-6; Heb. 2:9-15; 7:16, 24-25; Rev. 1:17-18; 2:8)

Hungered and thirsted (John 4:3-9)

Slept (Mark 4:35-41)

Worships and prays to the Father (Matt. 26:39-44; Mark 6:46; Luke 3:21; 5:16; Heb. 5:7)

Was tempted (Mark 1:12-13; 4:1-11; Luke 4:1-12)


J.
Thank you for the chart. I'm not convinced (yet) that Jesus actually worshiped His Father. He did pray to the Father and He thanked the Father, but I don't see Him (clearly) worshiping the Father. In Revelation 4 and 5, we don't see the Lamb falling down and worshiping "Him who sits on the throne", yet ALL OF CREATION worships BOTH THE FATHER AND THE LAMB.

This clearly confirms that the Lamb -Jesus - was NOT part of creation - rather He was the CREATOR ALONG WITH the Father and the Holy Spirit.

In other words, it appears that God does not worship God. Only those born of man worship Him - oh, AND the angels, and the four living creatures mentioned in Revelation.
 
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JESUS is the Man who is God. now, 101G have a question. "as the God .. man, how much of the Spirit was G2758 κενόω kenoo (ke-no-ō') 1. to make empty., while the Spirit was in that flesh". A. was all of the Spirit was made empty while in that flesh. or B. none of the Spirit. remember, Philippians 2:6 "Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:"

so, how much of the Spirit was made empty? looking for your response.

101G.
Why do you ask senseless questions? There's no Biblical answer to your question, so obviously God wasn't concerned about us knowing the "answer" to your question. You do that a lot, as if you are "teaching" us something that we don't know. That would be fine, if your question and your subsequent answer really taught what the Bible says. But, as in this case, it doesn't.
 
GINOLJC,
Isaiah 9:6 "For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace."

now 101's first question, was God BORN? or was the flesh Born, and the Almighty Spirit dwelt in, dwelt in, dwelt in that flesh which was born.

the reason why 101G ask this question, 2 Corinthians 5:19 "To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation."

so, 101G ask, " was God born?", or was Christ Born? which one. before you answer, read the first part of Isaiah 9:6 carefully, and then 2 Corinthians 5:19.

101G.
There you go again. Instead of assuming that you're the teacher and we are your class, why don't you just give us YOUR opinion - i.e. answer your own question. Then LET US decide whether we agree with you or not.
 
CHRIST THE GOD-MAN
The following chart provides a helpful summation of some of the overwhelming biblical data, which confirms that Jesus is the God-Man, the eternal God that became human and who, by virtue of his physical resurrection unto immortality, shall forever exist as both God and Man.

GOD MAN

He is God (Isa. 9:6; Matt. 1:22-23; Luke 8:39; John 1:1; 20:28; Acts 20:28; Rom. 9:5; Tit. 2:13; Heb. 1:8-9; 2 Pet. 1:1)

Son of God (Matt. 14:33; 16:13-17; Mark 3:11; 15:39; Luke 1:32-35; 1 Cor. 1:9; 2 Cor. 1:19; 1 Thess. 1:9-10)

As God he is Spirit (Mark 2:8; 1 Cor. 15:45 – cf. John 4:24)

God is his Father (Mark 1:11; 9:27; 14:36; Luke 23:46; 2 John 1:3; Rev. 2:18; 3:5)

Eternal (Micah 5:2; John 1:1; 8:56-59; 17:5; Col. 1:17)

Unchangeable (Heb. 1:10-12; 13:8)

Omniscient (Mark 2:8-9; John 2:23-25; 16:29-30; 21:17; Col. 2:2-3)

He is life and gives eternal life (John 1:4; 5:21, 25-26, 28-29; 6:39-44, 54, 57; Acts 3:15; 10:28; 11:25-26; 14:6)

The Bread of life/ Sustainer (John 1:4; 4:10-14; 6:35-36; 7:38-39; Col. 1:17; Heb. 1:3)

Gives rest for the weary (Matt. 11:28-30)

Receives worship and is prayed to (Matt. 2:2, 8, 11; 14:33; 15:25; 20:20; 28:9, 17; Mark 5:6; Luke 24:50-53; John 5:23; 14:13-14; Acts 1:24; 7:59-60; 9:14, 21; 1 Cor. 1:2-3; 16:22-23; 2 Cor. 12:7-10; 1 Thess. 3:11-13; 2 Thess. 2:16-17; Heb. 1:6; Rev. 1:5-6; 5:8-14; 22:20-21)

He is sinless, holy and righteous (John 7:18; 8:29, 46; Acts 3:14; 7:52; 22:14; 2 Cor. 5:21; Heb. 4:15; 7:26; 9:14; 1 Pet. 1:18-19; 2:22; 3:18; 1 John 2:1; 3:3, 5, 7, 9-10; Rev. 3:7, 14)

He is Man (Zech. 13:7; John 8:40; Acts 17:31; 1 Tim. 2:5)

Son of Mary (Matt. 1:16, 18-25; Mark 6:3; John 19:25-27; Gal. 4:4)

As Man he has a physical body of flesh and bones (Luke 24:39-43; John 20:24-27; Acts 2:24-32; Rom. 1:3; 9:5; 1 Cor. 15:46-49)

The Father is his God (Mark 15:34; John 20:17; 2 Cor. 1:3; 11:31; Eph. 1:3, 17; Rev. 1:6; 3:2, 12)

Born (Matt. 2:1-6, 11; Luke 2:1-7)

Grew over time (Luke 2:40, 52)

Didn’t know the day or hour (Matt. 24:36; Mark 13:32)

Died, buried, and has become deathless (Mark 15:37-47; 16:1-20; John 19:30-42; 20:1-29; Romans 6:7-10; 1 Cor. 15:3-6; Heb. 2:9-15; 7:16, 24-25; Rev. 1:17-18; 2:8)

Hungered and thirsted (John 4:3-9)

Slept (Mark 4:35-41)

Worships and prays to the Father (Matt. 26:39-44; Mark 6:46; Luke 3:21; 5:16; Heb. 5:7)

Was tempted (Mark 1:12-13; 4:1-11; Luke 4:1-12)


J.
Good post
 
Thank you for the chart. I'm not convinced (yet) that Jesus actually worshiped His Father. He did pray to the Father and He thanked the Father, but I don't see Him (clearly) worshiping the Father. In Revelation 4 and 5, we don't see the Lamb falling down and worshiping "Him who sits on the throne", yet ALL OF CREATION worships BOTH THE FATHER AND THE LAMB.

This clearly confirms that the Lamb -Jesus - was NOT part of creation - rather He was the CREATOR ALONG WITH the Father and the Holy Spirit.

In other words, it appears that God does not worship God. Only those born of man worship Him.
Worship is OBEDIANCE . HE DID
GODS own words cannot deny HIM
WHEN GOD said let there be LIGHT
its not like all of a sudden there was grass . THERE WAS LIGHT .
GODS WORDS , HIS WORD , HIS SPIRIT is perfect .
Does exactly what is spoken . Obediance .
Even the the laws of gravity , of rotation , etc are in perfect obediance to GOD .
ITS man , he had free will .
GOD desires OBEDIANCE from the heart of his living created beings .
But man has free will .
EVEN JESUS said YET NOT MY WILL , BUT THINE BE DONE .
Look i know some things are hard to be understood .
The main thing is that none does DENY the DIETY of CHRIST and call GOD a liar
and say GOD is not HIS WORD and etc . The Godhead is a mystery
but let no man blaspheme . If one understands not , then keep reading and keep learning
BUT whatever we do
DO NOT TWIST the scrips to try and make it make sense or to fit a teaching of man .
LET THE TRUTH reveal itself .
 
Thank you for the chart. I'm not convinced (yet) that Jesus actually worshiped His Father. He did pray to the Father and He thanked the Father, but I don't see Him (clearly) worshiping the Father. In Revelation 4 and 5, we don't see the Lamb falling down and worshiping "Him who sits on the throne", yet ALL OF CREATION worships BOTH THE FATHER AND THE LAMB.

This clearly confirms that the Lamb -Jesus - was NOT part of creation - rather He was the CREATOR ALONG WITH the Father and the Holy Spirit.

In other words, it appears that God does not worship God. Only those born of man worship Him - oh, AND the angels, and the four living creatures mentioned in Revelation.
The WORD became flesh .
On earth His worship was perfect , even an example for us to do .
TO walk n his steps BY the power of the SPIRIT within the true believer .
IN heaven he returned back to THE GLORY HE once had with the FATHER .
SO of course we see all of heaven worshipping at HIS FEET .
THE THRONE OF GOD and of the LAMB .
 
Good post
TO the trenches . Upon Seeing the RESSURECTED CHRIST
thomas fell to his knees in worship and said MY LORD and MY GOD .
AND WE SURE see all of heaven doing so in revelation . GOD is HIS WORD , HE IS HIS SPIRIT .
Yet i am seeing something very scary
TWO Things . i see many denying GOD is HIS WORD that JESUS is the alpha and omega ,
AS the TEMPLE is GOD AND THE LAMB .
But here is what i see that many on both sides have in common
both seem to be quickly falling in love
with another jesus . YES EVEN the ones who KNOW the GOD HEAD .
SO even if one does understand the GOD HEAD and has knowledge
IF ONE LOVETH NOT JESUS THE CHRIST , well its not gonna profit them squat .
I am getting very troubled and more so the longer this goes on .
I fear for many . a love train has come to town and ITS NOT OF GOD , its of the world and darkness
but many sure seem to BELEIVE its of GOD . the devil is a liar .
 
Good post
Would you like proof that one can KNOW the correct version of the GOD HEAD
and yet STILL BE VERY WICKED , lost and in sin .
MANY a pope can quoate that GOD HEAD , but darn , i sure seem to see them leading this people
RIGHT to anti christ .
SO while I DO understand it is important to KNOW
I suggest even those WHO DO KNOW IT rightly
examine their own selves . cause many DO NOT LOVE GOD, LOVE CHRIST , LOVE TRUTH .
they love a lie that has sold a real big sin accepting path of even UNBELIEF .
we got serious problems in the house my friend .
 
Good post
many have fallen for a ruse that just cause the RCC
and its members can corretly say the Godhead and even cliam to beleive IN JESUS
that somehow all is well . OH NO IT AINT .
many have some KNOWLEDGE , but do not KNOW GOD , KNOW CHRIST .
I say this not to condemn but to edify and to remind us . I never seen such a delusion
rise up like this one i have seen in the past years .
At most folks seem to only know truths , but NOT THE TRUTH .
that again should scare some socks off this generation . cause even buddists , muslims , athiests
and etc might know some truths , THEY SURE DONT KNOW THE TRUTH .
Something has went wrong . seeker friendly and this lets take GOD out of the box junk
DID GREAT damage to this generation and has led them right into
inclusivity and intefaith , right to the lie . its not looking good civic . We must bible up now for ourselves .
 
Would you like proof that one can KNOW the correct version of the GOD HEAD
and yet STILL BE VERY WICKED , lost and in sin .
MANY a pope can quoate that GOD HEAD , but darn , i sure seem to see them leading this people
RIGHT to anti christ .
SO while I DO understand it is important to KNOW
I suggest even those WHO DO KNOW IT rightly
examine their own selves . cause many DO NOT LOVE GOD, LOVE CHRIST , LOVE TRUTH .
they love a lie that has sold a real big sin accepting path of even UNBELIEF .
we got serious problems in the house my friend .
I thought there was just one Pope. And how is it you seem to see them leading people to the Antichrist?

In Christian eschatology, Antichrist refers to a kind of entity prophesied by the Bible to oppose Jesus Christ and falsely substitute themselves as a savior in Christ's place before the Second Coming. The term Antichrist is found four times in the New Testament, solely in the First and Second Epistle of John. Antichrist is announced as one "who denies the Father and the Son.

What Pope ever did that?

Early Christian writings tell us that Peter’s successors, the bishops of Rome (who from the earliest times have been called by the affectionate title of “Pope,” which means “papa”), continued to exercise Peter’s ministry in the Church.

The Pope is the successor to Peter as bishop of Rome. The world’s other bishops are successors to the apostles in general.

Know the Catholic faith. You cannot criticize someone's faith if you do not know it, and you cannot share with others what you do not clearly understand. Learning the Catholic faith takes some effort, but it is effort well spent because the study is, quite literally, infinitely rewarding.
 
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