Bible Problem

[e v e]

really beyond incredible that our deity
so loves us and
took such a huge step down
to incarnate in this fleshbody
for us

to free us from the evil realm
imprisoning us

we will go Home soon
all the 144k

and then the 144k
will return as witnesses
with Christ to help to jacob
during his trials

 

[Diserner]

we will go Home soon
all the 144k

Everyone who does not trust on Christ to suffer for their sins, as the one way to the Father, will not be going anywhere but hell.

This Biblical Christ is the only Way, Truth and Life.

I pray all in this forum come to know him as their merciful Savior who suffered to save them.

 

[civic]

Everyone who does not trust on Christ to suffer for their sins, as the one way to the Father, will not be going anywhere but hell.

This Biblical Christ is the only Way, Truth and Life.

I pray all in this forum come to know him as their merciful Savior who suffered to save them.

Actually it is anyone who does not believe the gospel below will not be saved. You added your own personal opinion to scripture. It does not say what you claimed anywhere in the bible. Paul outlines the gospel below.

1 Corinthians 15:1-8
Now, brothers and sisters, I want to remind you of the gospel I preached to you, which you received and on which you have taken your stand. 2 By this gospel you are saved, if you hold firmly to the word I preached to you. Otherwise, you have believed in vain. 3 For what I received I passed on to you as of first importance: that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures, 4 that he was buried, that he was raised on the third day according to the Scriptures, 5 and that he appeared to Cephas, and then to the Twelve. 6 After that, he appeared to more than five hundred of the brothers and sisters at the same time, most of whom are still living, though some have fallen asleep. 7 Then he appeared to James, then to all the apostles, 8 and last of all he appeared to me also, as to one abnormally born.

Summary of the gospel below :

1- Christ died for our sins
2- He was buried
3- He was raised from the dead on the 3rd day
4- He appeared to many people over 40 days and last He appeared to Paul.

The gospel you are teaching is not true, misleading and found nowhere in the bible that what you said must be believed to be saved. Paul left out believing in the suffering for your sins part in the gospel he outlined. He died for our sins.

While Jesus did indeed suffer belief in that is not part of the gospel. His death for our sins is the gospel message.

God says what He means and means what He says.

Romans 10:8-13
8 But what does it say? “The word is near you; it is in your mouth and in your heart,” that is, the message concerning faith that we proclaim: 9 If you declare with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord,” and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. 10 For it is with your heart that you believe and are justified, and it is with your mouth that you profess your faith and are saved. 11 As Scripture says, “Anyone who believes in him will never be put to shame.” 12 For there is no difference between Jew and Gentile—the same Lord is Lord of all and richly blesses all who call on him, 13 for, “Everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved.

hope this helps !!!

 

[Ozias]

Who killed Jesus, that's what I want to know? Who made him suffer before going to the cross? Who made him suffer that most agonizing death that was known to man at that time?

We know that Caiaphas had Jesus arrested, tried him in a kangaroo court and convicted him on a religious charge that carried the death penalty. The Sanhedrin coerced Caiaphas into it as Jesus was making trouble, He was making trouble for both Caiaphas and Pilate - and trouble for Pilate was big trouble for Caiaphas.

So Jesus was undoubtedly a threat to them; but the public liked him, indeed they may have been paying more attention to Jesus than to the priests, and the public were listening to his condemnation of what he saw as wrong in the religious establishment.

And yet when Pilate offered to release Jesus they chose a common criminal instead of the Lord of Glory.

I see Jesus wrongly suffering at the hands of man.

 

[e v e]

Actually it is anyone who does not believe the gospel below will not be saved. You added your own personal opinion to scripture. It does not say what you claimed anywhere in the bible. Paul outlines the gospel below.

1 Corinthians 15:1-8
Now, brothers and sisters, I want to remind you of the gospel I preached to you, which you received and on which you have taken your stand. 2 By this gospel you are saved, if you hold firmly to the word I preached to you. Otherwise, you have believed in vain. 3 For what I received I passed on to you as of first importance: that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures, 4 that he was buried, that he was raised on the third day according to the Scriptures, 5 and that he appeared to Cephas, and then to the Twelve. 6 After that, he appeared to more than five hundred of the brothers and sisters at the same time, most of whom are still living, though some have fallen asleep. 7 Then he appeared to James, then to all the apostles, 8 and last of all he appeared to me also, as to one abnormally born.

yes

 

[e v e]

Everyone who does not trust on Christ to suffer for their sins, as the one way to the Father, will not be going anywhere but hell.

This Biblical Christ is the only Way, Truth and Life.

I pray all in this forum come to know him as their merciful Savior who suffered to save them.

He does not send His Souls to Hell. Where does it say that ?
That is why I left the Catholics.. a lot of Threats of Hell that are not His Nature
which are in the evil catechism but NOT He ever said such.


the list of vatican issued mortal sins is very long...
a lot of poor souls were murdered in the inquisitions to uphold
the law of sin and death of the vatican.

 

[e v e]

the only heartless self-deluding 'god' who wants to send God's Souls to Hell
that I know about is adam, prince of this world,
and the satanic realm (=Death) and all its demons there , in the evil realm adam entered to...
and gave them access to us through his disobedience...
oh and the esaus belonging to satan on this earth....
^^ all monsters.

 

[e v e]

Who killed Jesus, that's what I want to know? Who made him suffer before going to the cross? Who made him suffer that most agonizing death that was known to man at that time?

We know that Caiaphas had Jesus arrested, tried him in a kangaroo court and convicted him on a religious charge that carried the death penalty. The Sanhedrin coerced Caiaphas into it as Jesus was making trouble, He was making trouble for both Caiaphas and Pilate - and trouble for Pilate was big trouble for Caiaphas.

So Jesus was undoubtedly a threat to them; but the public liked him, indeed they may have been paying more attention to Jesus than to the priests, and the public were listening to his condemnation of what he saw as wrong in the religious establishment.

And yet when Pilate offered to release Jesus they chose a common criminal instead of the Lord of Glory.

I see Jesus wrongly suffering at the hands of man.

evil men driven by satan

 

[civic]

Who killed Jesus, that's what I want to know? Who made him suffer before going to the cross? Who made him suffer that most agonizing death that was known to man at that time?

We know that Caiaphas had Jesus arrested, tried him in a kangaroo court and convicted him on a religious charge that carried the death penalty. The Sanhedrin coerced Caiaphas into it as Jesus was making trouble, He was making trouble for both Caiaphas and Pilate - and trouble for Pilate was big trouble for Caiaphas.

So Jesus was undoubtedly a threat to them; but the public liked him, indeed they may have been paying more attention to Jesus than to the priests, and the public were listening to his condemnation of what he saw as wrong in the religious establishment.

And yet when Pilate offered to release Jesus they chose a common criminal instead of the Lord of Glory.

I see Jesus wrongly suffering at the hands of man.

Ditto- the wrath/ anger of man, not God.

 

[Keiw1]

yes ... this body is that image.



yes the evil realm opposing Gods son , Christ, a being
free of sin nature

who as deity came to this earth
for us.



Christ and His Spirit are the hands of God.

The word is not called God( capitol G in Greek, the language the NT was written in. Notice the true God is called God and the word is called god( spelled different from what the true God is called at John 1:1, to show a difference-a god is correct for the word.

 

[Keiw1]

keiw,
all His sons, a remnant out of jacob,
will meet christ on the clouds soon..

of jacob left behind, they will suffer tribulation
but Christ and the sons as His witnesses
now in their resurrection nature
which is what we lost because of adam
... they will visit jacob during tribulation
and much of jacob after that will go home
to paradise.

Only 144,000 are bought from the earth-Rev 14:3

 

[Keiw1]

keiw,
all His sons, a remnant out of jacob,
will meet christ on the clouds soon..

of jacob left behind, they will suffer tribulation
but Christ and the sons as His witnesses
now in their resurrection nature
which is what we lost because of adam
... they will visit jacob during tribulation
and much of jacob after that will go home
to paradise.

The new earth is paradise( Eden)= Gods kingdom rule forever, no more satan influences. Everything made back to perfection.

 

[e v e]

The word is not called God( capitol G in Greek, the language the NT was written in. Notice the true God is called God and the word is called god( spelled different from what the true God is called at John 1:1, to show a difference-a god is correct for the word.

Christ and His feminine Word are His hands ...
so they have His nature...
I am not worried as He our majesty made us in their image, male and female.

 

[e v e]

The new earth is paradise( Eden)= Gods kingdom rule forever, no more satan influences. Everything made back to perfection.

yes eden paradise in the other reality
and when His souls the 144k meet Him
on the clouds all of us will be restored to eden nature ...
our original glorified nature
as His sons and daughters...

and after that during teib
the 144k return to this earth with Christ
to minister to jacob

and then this earth will, as prophets tell,
come to an end
and be desolated and no one will pass here
anymore

 

[Keiw1]

Christ and His feminine Word are His hands ...
so they have His nature...
I am not worried as He our majesty made us in their image, male and female.

Twisting things never makes a truth.
Let us( YHWH(Jehovah) and his (master worker( Jesus) prov 8) create man in our image= the ability to love, reason and worship God

 

[Keiw1]

yes eden paradise in the other reality
and when His souls the 144k meet Him
on the clouds all of us will be restored to eden nature ...
our original glorified nature
as His sons and daughters...

and after that during teib
the 144k return to this earth with Christ
to minister to jacob

and then this earth will, as prophets tell,
come to an end
and be desolated and no one will pass here
anymore

The 144,000( little flock-Luke 12:32)-go to heaven during the tribulation( the remaining ones on earth)
Psalm 37:29--The righteous will possess the earth and reside forever upon it= the great crowd and the resurrected who stay faithful once satan is loosed for a little while. This earth.
Psalm 104:5--the earth will NEVER be made to totter forever.

 

[koberstein]

Why would anyone like a Bible that says Elhanan and not David killed Goliath? To avoid being suspected of adding to the Word, only the KJV Bibles italicized words that were not in the manuscript, in order to maintain correct readings.

Correct readings or correct theology?

 

[NetChaplain]

Correct readings or correct theology?

The correct readings are the correct theology! Incorrect readings are never correct theology! Thanks for the reply! God bless.

 

[koberstein]

The correct readings are the correct theology! Incorrect readings are never correct theology! Thanks for the reply! God bless.

It seems to me when you chose a certain
translation or version of the Bible it will lead you down a certain theological road you might not want to travel on.

 

[Frank Russell]

highly spurious

You know, I would love to give the Highly Spurious edition of the bible a try, is it for sale yet?