BAD arguments against Calvinism that need to STOP!

[Eternally-Grateful]

Yet He created a world purposely knowing evil would occur. Strange

Yes he did. Because he loved those who would be saved.

should he have just changed his mind and not create us because most people would be evil?

No one said He forces anything

Calvinism is all about force..

If you have no choice, by definition, you are forced..

 

[Presby02]

Yes he did. Because he loved those who would be saved.

should he have just changed his mind and not create us because most people would be evil?

Calvinism is all about force..

If you have no choice, by definition, you are forced..

So He did not love the reprobate?

Nope. Our evil serves a purpose

Prove it

Nope. Prove it

 

[Eternally-Grateful]

So He did not love the reprobate?

of course he did, He died for them

Nope. Our evil serves a purpose

lol.. For a God who is apposed to evil..

get real man

Prove it

Nope. Prove it

if I have no choice. I am forced.

No one has to prove anything, it is common sense (unless you do not want to see it)

 

[civic]

Still could have stopped despite your Open Theism.

Nope since God never ordains evil.

 

[TibiasDad]

Doug, your mot addressing my question. Was it out of Gods love He allowed the slaughter of 6 million Jews?

The Reformed perspective is God had a purpose in it. God had a purpose in planning and determining the murder of His own Son. Yet He loved His Son but ultimately His purpose is served. Even from your perspective, God could have stopped the murder of 6 million people yet chose not too. Why? In your estimation was that a loving thing to do? Would you stand by and watched your loved ones be slaughtered?

Apples and oranges. God’s motives are always pure, and reconciling such tragedies with God is not within my capacity to accomplish. What I would do and what God can do are not comparable. If God is love, love is at work in everything, thus all things work for the good.

Doug

 

[Presby02]

of course he did, He died for them

lol.. For a God who is apposed to evil..

get real man

if I have no choice. I am forced.

No one has to prove anything, it is common sense (unless you do not want to see it)

For what purpose?y.

Nope since God never ordains evil.

Acts 4:27,28. Not only does He ordain it but plans and determines it to occur.

Apples and oranges. God’s motives are always pure, and reconciling such tragedies with God is not within my capacity to accomplish. What I would do and what God can do are not comparable. If God is love, love is a work in everything, thus all things work for the good.

Doug

No one said otherwise.

 

[Eternally-Grateful]

For what purpose?y.

Acts 4:27,28. Not only does He ordain it but plans and determines it to occur.

No one said otherwise.

Yes he put them in place. knowing they would willingly chose to do what he needed.

But hey, You want to blame God for evil. then don't try to show God as a God of love, you can not be both

Your comment to me literally makes no sense

 

[Presby02]

Yes he put them in place. knowing they would willingly chose to do what he needed.

But hey, You want to blame God for evil. then don't try to show God as a God of love, you can not be both

Your comment to me literally makes no sense

No, thats not what it says. It was His "plan". He "determined"it to occur. He brought it about by His hand. Nothing in the text about knowing what they would do.

 

[Eternally-Grateful]

No, thats not what it says. It was His "plan". He "determined"it to occur. He brought it about by His hand. Nothing in the text about knowing what they would do.

My God knows all.

its why he always puts the right people in place. Not because he forces them to do his will. but because he knows they will do what he needs to do if their own free will

God is not the author of evil. to even make this claim makes God himself evil

 

[Presby02]

My God knows all.

its why he always puts the right people in place. Not because he forces them to do his will. but because he knows they will do what he needs to do if their own free will

God is not the author of evil. to even make this claim makes God himself evil

He sure does and thats what makes your theology nonsensical.

Define author

 

[Eternally-Grateful]

He sure does and thats what makes your theology nonsensical.

so God is all knowing, as I said, but my thinking is nonsensical?

Define author

Yes, God is the author and finisher of my faith. without God I would have to trust myself..

 

[Presby02]

so God is all knowing, as I said, but my thinking is nonsensical?


Yes, God is the author and finisher of my faith. without God I would have to trust myself..

Nope. I agree with you. Omniscience, however, is not compatible with your theology.
Define author

 

[Eternally-Grateful]

Nope. I agree with you. Omniscience, however, is not compatible with your theology.

dude, my theology is based on the omniscience of God

Define author

It does not prove you are right. God is not the author or leader of evil. If he is, He is not a just or righteous God.

get over yourself. You make God out to be a tyrant. I reject your God.

 

[TedT]

God is not the author or leader of evil. If he is, He is not a just or righteous God.

If anyone came into being as a sinner or as able to have the consequences for sin, death and suffering, visited upon them WITHOUT their having chosen to rebel against GOD by their free will
then
they are who they are, sinful or liable to death and suffering by GOD's will not their own.

I have chosen to put my faith, my uproven hope, in holy GOD who does no evil and creates no evil, .