An Article on free will

We obey the gospel by choosing to believe the gospel. Romans 10:16 - But they have not all obeyed the gospel. For Isaiah says, “Lord, who has believed our report?”

The gospel is the "good news" of the death, burial and resurrection of Christ (1 Corinthians 15:1-4) and is the power of God unto salvation to everyone that BELIEVES.. (Romans 1:16) To "believe" the gospel is to trust in the death, burial and resurrection of Christ as the ALL-sufficient means of our salvation.
To believe in God is to accept the truth of God and to place trust in that truth. How is that trust exercised?

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The gospel is not a set of rituals to perform, a code of laws to be obeyed or a check list of good works to accomplish as a prerequisite for salvation.
And yet the NT is full of things to do and things not to do. Did Peter teach the gospel when he delivered that first sermon at Pentecost?
 
Good works are not a problem at all until saved FOR good works (Ephesians 2:10) becomes saved BY good works. (Romans 4:5-6; 11:6; Ephesians 2:8,9; Titus 3:5; 2 Timothy 1:9)

Folks who promote works-righteousness just don't understand (1 Corinthians 2:14) and they also refuse to believe the gospel. (1 Corinthians 1:18-21)
Most people who preach against "works righteousness" haven't a clue about the works that Paul spoke against with respect to salvation by works.
 
To believe in God is to accept the truth of God and to place trust in that truth. How is that trust exercised?

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And yet the NT is full of things to do and things not to do. Did Peter teach the gospel when he delivered that first sermon at Pentecost?
The NT is full of things to do and things not to do AFTER we believe the gospel and are saved. What do YOU believe the gospel IS and what do YOU believe it means to believe the gospel? Before you jump to conclusions with Acts 2:38, be sure to properly harmonize it with Acts 10:43-47.
 
Most people who preach against "works righteousness" haven't a clue about the works that Paul spoke against with respect to salvation by works.
Folks who promote salvation by works/works righteousness limit the works that Paul spoke against to merely specific works of the law (like circumcision) and end up teaching we are saved by "these" works (good works) and just not "those" works (works of the law) but that argument is bogus. Paul includes works in general. (Romans 4:2-6; 11:6; Ephesians 2:8,9; Titus 3:5; 2 Timothy 1:9)
 
The NT is full of things to do and things not to do AFTER we believe the gospel and are saved. What do YOU believe the gospel IS and what do YOU believe it means to believe the gospel? Before you jump to conclusions with Acts 2:38, be sure to properly harmonize it with Acts 10:43-47.
First, I reject your interpretation of Acts 10:42-47.
Second, demons believe but are not saved. How were/are you different?
 
Folks who promote salvation by works/works righteousness limit the works that Paul spoke against to merely specific works of the law (like circumcision) and end up teaching we are saved by "these" works (good works) and just not "those" works (works of the law) but that argument is bogus. Paul includes works in general. (Romans 4:2-6; 11:6; Ephesians 2:8,9; Titus 3:5; 2 Timothy 1:9)
Jesus said that believing in God was a work. Believing in God brings salvation. Is that salvation by works?
 
First, I reject your interpretation of Acts 10:42-47.
Second, demons believe but are not saved. How were/are you different?
Why do you reject Acts 10:43-47? Because it proves these Gentiles were saved before water baptism. In James 2:19, we see that the demons believe "mental assent" that "there is one God," but they do not believe in the Lord Jesus Christ (Acts 16:31) and are not saved. Their trust and reliance are in Satan, as demonstrated by their rebellion in heaven and continuous evil works. There is a difference between mere "mental assent" belief (as the demons have) and saving belief in Christ, which the demons do not have. Do you not understand that not all belief is the same and that there is a deeper belief that trusts in Jesus Christ for salvation?
 
Jesus said that believing in God was a work. Believing in God brings salvation. Is that salvation by works?
In John 6:29, Jesus said - "This is the work of God, that you believe in Him whom He has sent," in response to the Jews (who were taking a legalistic approach) when they asked, "What shall we do, so that we may work the works of God?" So, by Jesus' play on words here, He was not implying that believing is just "another" work in a series of works in a quest to receive salvation by works, as you may assume. Also, through believing, we are completely trusting in "Another's work," (Christ's finished work of redemption - Romans 3:24-28). There is a distinction between faith AND works. (Ephesians 2:8,9)
 
Why do you reject Acts 10:43-47?
I don't reject Acts 10:43-47. I reject your interpretation of it. Why? Because you are wrong.
Because it proves these Gentiles were saved before water baptism.
It proves no such thing, It says not one word about being saved before water baptism. It says that the gift that they received was the ability work the miracle to speak in tongues (v.46). Nowhere in all of the Bible does that equate to being saved.
 
In John 6:29, Jesus said - "This is the work of God, that you believe in Him whom He has sent," in response to the Jews (who were taking a legalistic approach) when they asked, "What shall we do, so that we may work the works of God?" So, by Jesus' play on words here, He was not implying that believing is just "another" work in a series of works in a quest to receive salvation by works, as you may assume. Also, through believing, we are completely trusting in "Another's work," (Christ's finished work of redemption - Romans 3:24-28). There is a distinction between faith AND works. (Ephesians 2:8,9)
It was not any play on words. It was a direct answer by Jesus to their question of what they needed to do. They only one attempting a play on words is you. You simply reject what Jesus said because you don't really understand what Paul said about works.

Your "faith alone" doctrine is just wrong.
 
I don't reject Acts 10:43-47. I reject your interpretation of it. Why? Because you are wrong.

It proves no such thing, It says not one word about being saved before water baptism. It says that the gift that they received was the ability work the miracle to speak in tongues (v.46). Nowhere in all of the Bible does that equate to being saved.
Absolutely false. You seem determined to accommodate your biased CoC doctrine. Acts 10:43 - Of Him all the prophets bear witness that through His name everyone who believes in Him receives forgiveness of sins. 44 While Peter was still speaking these words, the Holy Spirit fell upon all those who were listening to the message. 45 All the circumcised believers who came with Peter were amazed, because the gift of the Holy Spirit (compare with Acts 2:38 - the gift of the Holy Spirit) had been poured out on the Gentiles also. 46 For they were hearing them speaking with tongues and exalting God. (spiritual gift that is only for the body of Christ - 1 Corinthians 12) Then Peter answered, 47 "Surely no one can refuse the water for these to be baptized who have received the Holy Spirit just as we did, can he?" Crystal clear.

*Compare the fact that these Gentiles in Acts 10:45 received the gift of the Holy Spirit (compare with Acts 2:38 - the gift of the Holy Spirit) and this was BEFORE water baptism. (Acts 10:47) One cannot receive a gift from the Holy Spirit until they first receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.

In Acts 10:43 we read ..whoever believes in Him receives remission of sins. Again, these Gentiles received the gift of the Holy Spirit -Acts 10:45 - when they believed on the Lord Jesus Christ - Acts 11:17 - (compare with Acts 16:31 - Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and you will be saved) BEFORE water baptism - Acts 10:47. This is referred to as repentance unto life - Acts 11:18.

*So, the only logical conclusion when properly harmonizing scripture with scripture is that faith in Jesus Christ "implied in genuine repentance" (rather than water baptism) brings the remission of sins and the gift of the Holy Spirit. (Luke 24:47; Acts 2:38; 3:19; 5:31; 10:43-47; 11:17,18; 13:38-39; 15:7-9; 16:31; 26:18) *Perfect Harmony* :)
 
Absolutely false. You seem determined to accommodate your biased CoC doctrine. Acts 10:43 - Of Him all the prophets bear witness that through His name everyone who believes in Him receives forgiveness of sins. 44 While Peter was still speaking these words, the Holy Spirit fell upon all those who were listening to the message. 45 All the circumcised believers who came with Peter were amazed, because the gift of the Holy Spirit (compare with Acts 2:38 - the gift of the Holy Spirit) had been poured out on the Gentiles also. 46 For they were hearing them speaking with tongues and exalting God. (spiritual gift that is only for the body of Christ - 1 Corinthians 12) Then Peter answered, 47 "Surely no one can refuse the water for these to be baptized who have received the Holy Spirit just as we did, can he?" Crystal clear.

*Compare the fact that these Gentiles in Acts 10:45 received the gift of the Holy Spirit (compare with Acts 2:38 - the gift of the Holy Spirit) and this was BEFORE water baptism. (Acts 10:47) One cannot receive a gift from the Holy Spirit until they first receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.

In Acts 10:43 we read ..whoever believes in Him receives remission of sins. Again, these Gentiles received the gift of the Holy Spirit -Acts 10:45 - when they believed on the Lord Jesus Christ - Acts 11:17 - (compare with Acts 16:31 - Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and you will be saved) BEFORE water baptism - Acts 10:47. This is referred to as repentance unto life - Acts 11:18.

*So, the only logical conclusion when properly harmonizing scripture with scripture is that faith in Jesus Christ "implied in genuine repentance" (rather than water baptism) brings the remission of sins and the gift of the Holy Spirit. (Luke 24:47; Acts 2:38; 3:19; 5:31; 10:43-47; 11:17,18; 13:38-39; 15:7-9; 16:31; 26:18) *Perfect Harmony* :)
Speaking in tongues does not save anyone. Working miracles doesn't save anyone. The gifts of the Spirit to work miracles doesn't save anyone.
 
Why do you reject Acts 10:43-47? Because it proves these Gentiles were saved before water baptism. In James 2:19, we see that the demons believe "mental assent" that "there is one God," but they do not believe in the Lord Jesus Christ (Acts 16:31) and are not saved. Their trust and reliance are in Satan, as demonstrated by their rebellion in heaven and continuous evil works. There is a difference between mere "mental assent" belief (as the demons have) and saving belief in Christ, which the demons do not have. Do you not understand that not all belief is the same and that there is a deeper belief that trusts in Jesus Christ for salvation?

God bless you, @mailmandan,

I just want to break in to say it makes it much easier to read your posts when you have hyperlinks to the Bible passages; otherwise, I copy and paste.

Praise the Lord for God's saving belief “This is the work of God, that you believe in Him whom He has sent” (John 6:29).
 
It was not any play on words. It was a direct answer by Jesus to their question of what they needed to do. They only one attempting a play on words is you. You simply reject what Jesus said because you don't really understand what Paul said about works.

Your "faith alone" doctrine is just wrong.
In John 6:28, the crowd misunderstood Jesus' prohibition and thought He was saying that God required them to do works as the basis or means of receiving eternal life, yet Jesus corrected them and said, "this is the work of God, that you believe in Him whom He sent." This is what God requires and not that faith is just another work in a series of works in a quest to obtain salvation by works. I don't reject the words of Jesus at all, and Jesus repeatedly said that eternal life was received by believing in Him (John 3:15,16,18; 6:40,47; 11:25,26) and not by believing in works. You reject salvation through faith in Jesus Christ alone and not by works (Romans 4:5-6; Ephesians 2:8,9) because you are trusting in works for salvation and not in Jesus Christ alone.

Romans 5:1 - Therefore, having been justified by faith, (faith plus what? faith plus nothing. hence, faith alone) we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ,

Ephesians 2:8 - For by grace you have been saved through faith, (faith plus what? faith plus nothing. hence, faith alone) and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God, 9 not of works, lest anyone should boast.
 
Speaking in tongues does not save anyone. Working miracles doesn't save anyone. The gifts of the Spirit to work miracles doesn't save anyone.
When did I say that we are saved by spiritual gifts? Spiritual gifts are for the body of Christ/those who are already saved. Speaking in tongues demonstrated to the Jews that God has accepted these Gentiles and it also proves they were saved.
 
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