You may not be a Calvinist but you certainly act like one with your unmitigated spewing out of ad hominems.
@synergy
Well, it seems to me that you have about as much Calvinism as I do ~ since many Calvinist believed in infant baptism, which we know is against the word of God. Yet, we still have high regards for many of them because of the stance of the doctrine of election by grace alone and because most all of them were Sola Scriptura, and rejected oral traditions, as being on equal par with the word of God.
" your unmitigated spewing out of ad hominems."~no, I do not attack the person but their false teachings, I try to stay free from going after the person ~ maybe you need to reread your own post and see if you are the guilty party, you just might be surprise.
You failed miserably again.
Wishful thinking on your part. It is not what you think, but what others think that counts! Or, better yet, what God knows that counts, but we will ahve to wait until that day.
You might not care what the original Churches taught but the Bible does care and even teaches that they are the Pillar of Truth. Some fine example you are, spitting on God's Pillar of Truth.
Boy, do you love putting spins on what others say! Listen carefully once more:
synergy, who should care what the original churches taught once the scriptures where finished and the apostles died off? God's word lives on and as children of God we live by the words of the Living God recorded in our bibles ~ not by what the churches taught after John the beloved apostle died around 90-95 A.D. Not interested in so-called church traditions as though those traditions are equal to God's word and in many cases above the scriptures, with men like you and the whores from EOC/RCC think are though they are,~ reason being because the corruption that soon enter into the churches support their false teachings, whereas they get no support from the scriptures.
Again, we are talking about what the churches taught after John died, from 95 A.D. onward, not before then. Again ~ We are not speaking about 33 - 95 A.D. even though false doctrine try to enter in, but the apostle's dealt with it head on, but they knew that as soon as they left, the flood gate would be open and was it ever!
I love the scriptures, but once they were finished and the apostles died off, the churches they left here soon became a den of every unclean fowls (evil spirits) to where we are now. Have you never read:
Matthew 13:31,32
“Another parable put he forth unto them, saying, The kingdom of heaven is like to a grain of mustard seed, which a man took, and sowed in his field:
Which indeed is the least of all seeds: but when it is grown, it is the greatest among herbs, and becometh a tree, so that the birds of the air come and lodge in the branches thereof."
Need help with the interpretation? It is very easy to understand, if one knew his bible. The kingdom of heaven in the beginning was very small, but over time has grow into the greatest kingdom (religion as a whole) in the world, so large that the bird of the air (evil spirits~Ephesians 2) now live in her and rules her.
Revelation 18:2
“And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying, Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and is become
the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird.”
Is this the church you desire for me to honour? I have came out of her, never to return, no,
never.
Furthermore, the Bible promotes both oral teachings (by word) and written teachings (by our letter). Where do you think oral teachings are best heard? In a Church of course.
I have my bible, you can have the modern day churches of this world, I left them for good.
2nd Timothy 3:5
“Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof:
from such turn away.”
And turn away I did.
The only person here going against the Bible is you. No only are you going against the verses I quoted but you are also going against the archeological evidence of infant baptism, the Roman Catacomb Churches for example.
I have dealt with every verse you put forth, so do not say that lie ~ and I will never accept anything that I cannot find in the word of God. Paul and he other apostles always reason with the Jews from the scriptures, and only from the scriptures.
Acts 17:2
“And Paul,
as his manner was, went in unto them, and three sabbath days
reasoned with them out of the scriptures,”
You would be wise to practice the same.
I see that your prayers have pitted you against many Bible verses such as 1 Tim 3:15 and 2 Th 2:13-15 in the short time we've interacted. I'm sure there will be more verses that conflict with your heresies the more we talk. God gave us a mind for critical thinking and it's time to make use of it.
synergy, you desire to push
critical thinking, whereas, I as a child of God I want only to live by
"biblically thinking".
Let us look at the difference bewtween the two of them briefly.
Critical thinking is driven by man's wisdom, which inevitable will always lead to many different ways of doing really what man thinks is right than what God's word actually teaches us. Critical thinking
opens the door to bring in many false teaching the word of God will not support. Teaching that is for man's benefits more than what is pleasing to God. The Pharisees lived by critical thinking:
Matthew 23:16-22
“Woe unto you,
ye blind guides,
which say, Whosoever shall swear by the temple,
it is nothing; but whosoever shall swear by the gold of the temple,
he is a debtor!
Ye fools and blind: for whether is greater, the gold, or the temple that sanctifieth the gold? And, Whosoever shall swear by the altar,
it is nothing; but whosoever sweareth by
the gift that is upon it, he is guilty. Y
e fools and blind: for whether
is greater, the gift, or the altar that sanctifieth the gift? Whoso therefore shall swear by the altar, sweareth by it, and by all things thereon. And whoso shall swear by the temple, sweareth by it, and by him that dwelleth therein. And he that shall swear by heaven, sweareth by the throne of God, and by him that sitteth thereon.”
"Biblically thinking" Lives only by every word of God.
Proverbs 3:5
“Trust in the LORD with all thine heart; and
lean not unto thine own understanding.”
Here is the true basis of wisdom. We must reject our own ideas, and instead trust God’s inspired revelation and sovereign providence to save us from the ignorance of the human race. If we cherish or protect our opinions against His will, we will suffer.
Grasp the issue. We have no understanding. What we think we know is dangerous. Because it seduces us away from truth and wisdom and resists any change toward them. Our greatest enemy is our own heart and mind. Ignorant from conception, fed misinformation since birth, encouraged to idiocy by peers, deceived by false interpretation of experiences, and inherently arrogant and selfish, we are in deep trouble.
In order to succeed, we must reject our understanding. To progress beyond the rest of our species, we cannot even lean toward our own understanding. We must flush it all. Any infatuation or protection of our thoughts will take us down with the rest of this foolish race. The rule is simple and strict – do not even lean toward our own thoughts. Which is what critical thinking will quickly cause one to do.
Conscience is our alarm system signaling sin in our lives. What are Infants guilty of? Being born?
Where is your scriptures for what you saying? You do not have one.
Proverbs 20:27
“The spirit of man
is the candle of the LORD, searching all the inward parts of the belly.”
Man is not an animal, and he is not like any animal. God Jehovah, Creator of heaven and earth, put something in man that makes him very different. God gave man a conscience, and this conscience is a law, teacher, and judge for each man, woman, and child.
Your conscience is the candle of the LORD. This light from God inside you
examines and judges your thoughts, words, and deeds. Man makes choices by more than instincts, for God gave every conscious person
a conscience to help him know and do what is right.
The word conscience has two parts: con (with) + science (knowledge) =
knowing within yourself about yourself. This invisible spirit inside you has a sense of right and wrong, and it will approve right things and condemn wrong things you do. It will also reflect on what others do and make judgments as to whether they are right or wrong.
Consider how you can have a thought within yourself and yet analyze and judge that thought as well.
A man can only know himself by his conscience; he cannot know another person by it (
I Cor 2:11). Sometimes your spirit is full of joy, and sometimes it is full of sadness, and no other person can fully feel or know your emotions (
Pr 14:10).
Your belly in this proverb is metonymy for your heart and mind. It is a figure of speech that uses a part of the body to refer to what goes on there. When you are moved by love or fear, you can feel it in your belly. When it is love, you may say, “My stomach flipped.” When it is fear, you may say, “I am sick with fear.” According to the proverb,
your conscience examines your entire inner person to help direct your choices in things.
Your conscience can convict you that what you or others have thought, said, or done is wrong (
Rom 2:15). This internal sense of guilt can be very strong, and it can control or influence what you do or not do. The accusers of the woman taken in adultery left her alone, when their consciences were confronted about the justice of their actions (
Jn 8:9).
How did you get a conscience? The LORD gave it to you, so it is called the candle of the LORD. It is a light from God
to help you make decisions. It also proves your sinfulness, for you have sinned against your conscience many times. Even if God has not condemned an action, it is sin for you, if your conscience condemns it (
Rom 14:22-23;
Jas 4:17).
All men have a conscience. Gentiles, reprobates, and the Pharisees had consciences, though hard to believe (
Rom 2:15;
1:32;
John 8:9). Amnon and Judas Iscariot had consciences (
II Sam 13:1-2;
Matt 27:3-5). The universal restraint and godly laws of men reflect this conscience, though their sorrow for sin is not godly sorrow (
II Cor 7:9-11). A conscience in an unregenerate man is simply one more source of condemnation for him.
God has revealed Himself to all men in the natural creation. David wrote, “The heavens declare the glory of God” (
Ps 19:1). Paul wrote that though God Himself is invisible, the things He created can be seen, and they prove to men that God exists with eternal power and Godhead, so mankind is without excuse. God also declares His existence in the consciences of men, which is His candle giving them some knowledge about Him.
Great men and women have strong consciences, and they obey them. A strong conscience is one that is well taught and active in assessing all parts of life, and great men listen to it and obey it. Such persons are very sensitive to doing what is right and avoiding what is wrong. They are very opinionated against evil. God gave you a conscience to be a daily companion to keep you doing right things and hating wrong things. Strengthen it. Use it.
You must teach your conscience the truth and wisdom of God, and you must obey it when it tells you to do certain things and when it says other things are wrong. God gave you this candle to help make you great, but the sinful world around you tries to silence your conscience so you will approve all they want to do. You must not allow worldly lifestyles, presented to you by various media, to corrupt or numb your conscience.
Your conscience can and must be taught. The more you learn, the better your conscience will serve you. If you learn God’s wisdom by these proverbs and the rest of scripture, your conscience will help you more (
I Cor 8:1-7). You can even keep your conscience ignorant to stop it from condemning you in things that God allows (
I Cor 10:25-27).
In some societies women lived bare-breasted. Their consciences about it were formed by habit and tradition to see no wrong in it. They were amused or offended by any objection to it. Only careful teaching could put shame in their consciences about the practice. Now, think carefully about what your children see at home, on the television, or at school.
Your conscience must be taught. In order for you to please God, you need a conscience that knows the will of God and will seek to enforce it in your life. This conscience that loves truth and wisdom only exists in born again children of God, and yet it needs the instruction of God’s word to form its opinions properly on most every subject (
Heb 5:14).
Your conscience must be obeyed. If you ignore it, then it becomes calloused, cauterized, and less sensitive to things, leaving you vulnerable to most any temptation (
I Tim 4:2;
Eph 4:19). If you reject God and His word, He can and will blind your conscience, leaving you without the candle of the LORD to direct you (
Rom 1:21-28;
II Cor 4:2-4).
Do you appreciate your conscience from God? Self-examination, a duty of true Christians, is done partly by the conscience (
Ps 26:2;
139:23-24). It could have saved the Corinthians from judgment (
I Cor 11:28-31). Do you meditate with your own heart at night (
Ps 4:4;
16:7)? Do you let the preaching of God’s word convict you (
Ps 73:17,
21)? The confidence of a pure conscience is a wonderful and powerful thing (
Pr 28:1).
Your conscience should always consider others (
I Cor 10:28-33). Paul lived virtuously to avoid offending his conscience toward God or men (
Acts 24:16). Such conscientiousness toward God will help you fulfill the first commandment to love God, and toward others it will help you keep the second commandment of loving your neighbor as yourself.
Your great goal is to grow in favor with God and men (
Pr 3:1-4;
Luke 2:52). Your goal is to be perfect. Your conscience can help you achieve these goals by accusing you for wrongdoing and excusing your right choices. Paul kept a good conscience at all times (
II Cor 1:12;
Heb 13:18), and he required it of Timothy and deacons (
I Tim 1:5,
19;
3:9).
One of the first acts of obedience to God is baptism, which the Bible calls the answer of a good conscience toward God (
I Pet 3:21). (Infants, which do not have active consciences, were never baptized in the New Testament.) Before hearing the gospel, a regenerated man has a defiled conscience, knowing he is a sinner and deserves God’s wrath. But the gospel tells him that Jesus Christ paid for his sins, which gives him a guilt-free conscience, which pushes him to thank God for his merciful grace (
Heb 9:14;
10:19-22).
Your conscience should approve or accuse you right now. If you have been living a godly and righteous life, your conscience should approve you for following this proverb. If you have been living a foolish or worldly life, often violating your conscience, then it should accuse you of wrongdoing. What will you do with this candle of the LORD? Ask God to revive it inside you (
Ps 51:10), and carefully use it to guide your choices to please Him. (J. R. Crosby a friend of mine, used by permission)
1 Cor !:30,
So stop with the lame excuses and man up to the verses I mentioned.
, everyone knows that their heresies have been annihilated. May Kermos come to his senses and leave behind that Living Dead religion of his.
