TomL, you deceptively wrote "
there is nothing about the chosen people in John 3:14-18" because Lord Jesus specifically mentions "
the serpent in the wilderness" (John 3:14-18) with absolute direct correlation to "
bronze serpent" (Numbers 21:8-9) -
the very "the serpent in the wilderness" (John 3:14-18) that Moses erected for God's chosen people (Numbers 21:8-9)!
You deceive about the Word of God, so you are anti-truth!
Now, let's go on to the whole dialog recorded around John 3:14-18 and to where we left off.
Your heart destroys the correlation established by Lord Jesus between the specific group of people bitten and looking at "
the serpent in the wilderness" (Numbers 21:8-9, John 3:14-16) and the specific group of people He called the "
world" (Numbers 21:8-9, John 3:14-16).
Jesus specifies God's chosen people (John 3:14-16); therefore, God sent Jesus to save God's chosen people - also known as the "
world" (John 3:17). God's love is immeasurable, praise the Lord!
You believe the specific group of Numbers 21:8/John 3:16 becomes a non-specific group in John 3:16, so you believe anti-truth.
You already declared that your own interpretation is not in Holy Scripture, and nothing has changed, just see the below. Your own interpretation looks worse and worse because the Holy Spirit's revelation is solid (2 Peter 1:20-21).
Exactly!!! All your prophecy amounts to TomL 2:11 (your adulteration of Titus 2:11), TomL 3:2-21 (your adulteration of John 3:2-21), 1 TomL 2:2 (your adulteration of 1 John 2:2), and TomL 1:29 (your adulteration of John 1:29), and "
there are no such scriptures", so your prophecy is false.
You void your own thoughts!
In Truth (John 14:6), you mention 1 John 2:2, and God had me mention 1 John 2:2 with specific identification of your adulteration to 1 John 2:2. I could go on about other verses like this, but this is enough to establish matters.
The One True God, Lord Jesus Christ, has caused me to prove your failure atonement of Christ, and you have failed to demonstrate the contrary.
It is written "
do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world" (1 John 4:1), so your spirit can be tested according to your prophecy, so let's move forward with examining your writings that are your prophecy.
Before Christ made atonement on the cross bringing salvation to "
all men", Lord Jesus identified Judas Iscariot as "
the son of destruction" who is an exception from Christ's atonement with "
I guarded them, and none of them has perished, except the son of destruction" (
John 17:12);
therefore, Judas Iscariot is not a part of "all men" as recorded in Titus 2:11.
Your preach that Judas Iscariot is included in "
all men", so your prophecy adulterates the Holy Scripture into the traditions of men:
| The traditions of men | | Holy Scripture |
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For the grace of God has appeared, bringing salvation to all men including Judas Iscariot of the world who is eternally under the wrath of God
(TomL 2:11) | | For the grace of God has appeared, bringing salvation to all men,
(Titus 2:11) |
But Jesus failed to bring Judas salvation per Free-willian Philosophers, so your adulterations of the precious Holy Scripture go again and again.
Before Christ made atonement for the sin of "
the world", Lord Jesus identified Judas Iscariot as "
the son of destruction" who is an exception from Christ's atonement with "
I guarded them, and none of them has perished, except the son of destruction" (
John 17:12);
therefore, Judas Iscariot is not a part of "the world" as recorded in John 3:16.
You quoted John 3:14-18 out of it's greater context of John 3:2-21, so God has me not only restore the greater context but show your adulterations underlined for ease of reading.
Your heart puts Judas Iscariot into "the world" and your heart puts believing (John 3:9-21) before being born of God (John 3:2-8), so your adulteration is reflected in the word of TomL:
| The word of TomL | | The Word of God |
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2(9) Nicodemus said to Him, “How can these things be?” 3(10) Jesus answered and said to him, “Are you the teacher of Israel and do not understand these things? 4(11) Truly, truly, I say to you, we speak of what we know and testify of what we have seen, and you do not receive our testimony. 5(12) If I told you earthly things and you do not cause yourself to believe, how will you cause yourself to believe if I tell you heavenly things? 6(13) No one has ascended into heaven except men who judge right in their own initiative to believe in Me and He who descended from heaven: the Son of Man. 7(14) As Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness for the world including people outside of Israel, even so must the Son of Man be lifted up; 8(15) so that whoever is unborn of God choosing to believe will have [/u]born his dead self into[/u] eternal life.
9(16) For God so loved the world including Judas Iscariot, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever, loving darkness instead of the Light, wroughts to believe by himself in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life. 10(17) For God did not send the Son into the world including Judas Iscariot to judge the world including Judas Iscariot, but to save the world including Judas Iscariot who I fail to save from the wrath of God through Him. 11(18) He who forced God to cause himself to be born again because of his self-willed believing in Him is not judged; he who does not choose to believe has been judged already, because he has not chosen to believe in the name of the only begotten Son of God. 12(19) This is the judgment, that the Light has come into Judas Iscariot and the world and men loved the darkness rather than the Light, for their works were evil. 13(20) For everyone who does evil hates the Light, and does not come to the Light for fear that his works will be exposed. 14(21) But he who practices the truth comes to the Light, so that his works may be manifested as having been wrought in God.”
15(2) this man came to Jesus by night and said to Him, “Rabbi, we know that You have come from God as a teacher; for no one can do these signs that You do unless God is with him.” 16(3) Jesus answered and said to him, “Truly, truly, I say to you, one who is not born again he can see the kingdom of God.”
17(4) Nicodemus said to Him, “How can a man be born when he is old? He cannot enter a second time into his mother’s womb and be born, can he?” 18(5) Jesus answered, “Truly, truly, I say to you, one who is born of water and the Spirit he can enter into the kingdom of God. 19(6) That which is born of the flesh is flesh and this evil flesh profits the flesh and this evil flesh pleases God, and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit of no significance. 20(7) Do not be amazed that I said to you, ‘You must be born again.’ 21(8) The wind blows where it wishes and you hear the sound of it, but do know exactly where it comes from and exactly where it is going because your choosing of Me controls your becoming born of the Spirit; so is everyone who is born of the Spirit.”
(TomL 3:2-21 (no longer the Word of God)) | | 2 this man came to Jesus by night and said to Him, “Rabbi, we know that You have come from God as a teacher; for no one can do these signs that You do unless God is with him.” 3 Jesus answered and said to him, “Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born again he cannot see the kingdom of God.”
4 Nicodemus said to Him, “How can a man be born when he is old? He cannot enter a second time into his mother’s womb and be born, can he?” 5 Jesus answered, “Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born of water and the Spirit he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. 6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh, and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. 7 Do not be amazed that I said to you, ‘You must be born again.’ 8 The wind blows where it wishes and you hear the sound of it, but do not know where it comes from and where it is going; so is everyone who is born of the Spirit.”
9 Nicodemus said to Him, “How can these things be?” 10 Jesus answered and said to him, “Are you the teacher of Israel and do not understand these things? 11 Truly, truly, I say to you, we speak of what we know and testify of what we have seen, and you do not receive our testimony. 12 If I told you earthly things and you do not believe, how will you believe if I tell you heavenly things? 13 No one has ascended into heaven, but He who descended from heaven: the Son of Man. 14 As Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of Man be lifted up; 15 so that whoever believes will in Him have eternal life.
16 For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life. 17 For God did not send the Son into the world to judge the world, but to save the world through Him. 18 He who believes in Him is not judged; he who does not believe has been judged already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. 19 This is the judgment, that the Light has come into the world, and men loved the darkness rather than the Light, for their works were evil. 20 For everyone who does evil hates the Light, and does not come to the Light for fear that his works will be exposed. 21 But he who practices the truth comes to the Light, so that his works may be manifested as having been wrought in God.”
(John 3:2-21) |
since it is written "
You hate all who do iniquity" (Psalm 5:5), then God hates Judas Iscariot the doer of the iniquity of betraying Jesus Christ; therefore, Judas Iscariot is not included in "
the world" as recorded in John 3:16. Your heart makes God's love for the world including Judas Iscariot miserably weak, ineffectual, and of no consequence.
So, your spirit prophecies a very different message than the marvelous Holy Spirit inspired Word of God sayings. For important detail, please see
post #2,121.
For similar reasons, Judas is not a part of "
the whole world" in John the Apostle's word. Your word is wrong side while the Apostle's word is right side:
| Wrong Side | | Right Side |
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He is the atoning sacrifice for our sins, and not only for ours but also for the sins of the whole world including Judas Iscariot the son of destruction, so Christ's atoning sacrifice fails for Judas Iscariot.
(1 TomL 2:2) | | He is the atoning sacrifice for our sins, and not only for ours but also for the sins of the whole world.
(1 John 2:2) |
So "
the whole world" in 1 John 2:2 includes exclusively the people that will believe in Jesus whom the Father has sent (John 6:29) before those people die, so "
the whole world" in 1 John 2:2 has a different meaning than "
the whole world" in 1 John 5:19, but your heart destroys context for "
the whole world", and so go your adulterations of the precious Holy Scripture again and again and again.
For similar reasons, Judas Iscariot is not part of "
the world" in John the Baptist's saying. Your adulteration of the Holy Scripture is evident in your quotations augmented with your heart's thoughts in your posts:
| The Book of Free-willians | | The Book of John |
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The next day John saw Jesus coming toward him and said, “Look, the Lamb of God, who fails to take away the sin of the world including Judas Iscariot!
(TomL 1:29) | | The next day John saw Jesus coming toward him and said, “Look, the Lamb of God, who takes away the sin of the world!
(John 1:29) |
And so go your adulterations of the precious Holy Scripture.
Since you believe Judas Iscariot is included in Christ's atonement, then you believe that Christ's atonement leads to destruction because Judas Iscariot is "
the son of destruction".
Judas Iscariot is not included in Christ's atonement because Judas was "
the son of destruction" before the crucifixion.
You preach a failure atonement for Christ.
Your heart makes false statements about God and man. Free-will is a conjured concept of the traditions of men (Matthew 15:9).
In Truth (John 14:6), the Almighty God is Sovereign (Genesis 1:1) in man's salvation and affairs of man (Daniel 4:34-35)! PRAISE JESUS' HOLY NAME!!!
doesnt fall far from the tree
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