All Claims of The Son's Deity
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e v e
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all the pronouns for His spirit, in ancient hebrew are feminine.
that's not all the evidence but it is a start.
Victoria
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I'm not religious, 'nor am I affiliated w/ any denomination, just strictly a Bible believing Christian.
May I ask who is Jesus Christ? And what is the Gospel?
e v e
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Christ is God's son and our deity.
Unlike us, He did not go the mystery babylon = fall.
The gospel is a corrupt copy esau wrote. the kjv is a sorcery text.
^^ cliff notes.
Victoria
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Jesus Christ is deity, the Son of God, yes. What does that mean?
KJB aside, what is the Gospel?
e v e
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Christ is a most lovely being and our deity and God's son
All the sons who fell, ieue's sons , will be restored and rule with christ.
all the girls are in His spirits image.
All the sons are in His image.
Our comforter is she, His feminine spirit.
The trinity is God, our mother, Christ God s son and representative of all of us, God's sons and daughters...
our actual family.
anything saying He created us as creatures is esau's lie.
All the sons who fell, ieue's sons , will be restored and rule with christ.
all the girls are in His spirits image.
All the sons are in His image.
Our comforter is she, His feminine spirit.
The trinity is God, our mother, Christ God s son and representative of all of us, God's sons and daughters...
our actual family.
anything saying He created us as creatures is esau's lie.
Victoria
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Jesus Christ is God Almighty.
God says that all have sinned & come short of the glory of God. Romans 3:23
The wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord. Romans 6:23
What must we do to be saved? By believing that Jesus Christ died for our sins, that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures. 1 Corinthians 15:1-4
God assures us that once we believe the Gospel of our salvation as stated above, God immediately seals us w/ the Holy Spirit. We can be rest assured that we're saved & can never lose our salvation. Ephesians 1:13-14; 4:30; 2:8-9
The only way to be saved is by believing the Gospel & placing your trust alone in Jesus Christ.
Just to be clear, this is what Christianity believes. I'll pray for you.
Q – What is religion?
Religion is humanity’s attempt to reach out to God or the sacred or divine. It involves human effort to become acceptable to God or to give meaning to one’s life. Thus, the potential exists for there to be as many religions as there are humans. This makes religion subjective to the person resulting in no two being the same.
Q – Isn’t Christianity a religion?
No. Christianity is not a religion because it does not involve humanity’s attempt to reach God, but rather God’s attempt to reach humanity. Christianity is centered on a personal relationship between a creator God and His human creation. It’s about a loving God who initiates the relationship by revealing who He is to His human creation by coming to us in the person of Jesus. Through the life, death and resurrection of Jesus a person is given the way to become acceptable to God who is holy and experience the true meaning for their life.
Q – I see Christianity’s roots, but what was the need for the transition to Christianity?
Humans due to their sin nature are relationally separated from God who is holy, i.e. without sin. Through Judaism He provided a temporary work around system to cover over the sin of people. This system enabled a holy God to have relationship with people who were sinful.
God was using His Jewish people and their Judaism system of worship he had instituted through them to prepare and point the way to the time and need for Jesus. Jesus, God in human form, by offering up His life on the cross provided a permanent solution to the separation that sin was causing. This solution eliminated the need for the Judaism system of worship. Worship instead began being centered on Jesus’ death for our sin and His resurrection to life, giving birth to Christianity.
Q – So how do I know Christianity is right?
Jesus, God in human form and the founder of Christianity, said this in John 14:6 of the Bible, “I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.” Jesus validated this claim through the immutable fact of His resurrection.
His statement and resurrection are at the core of the irreconcilable differences with the religions of the world. He’s alive and all the founders of the world’s religions died and are still dead!
The way to be right with God in every religion is by earning your way. It is based on works, not grace. Christianity is different from every religion in this aspect: all religions (including Mormonism, Islam, Hinduism, and Buddhism) state that you must earn the right to be reconciled with God. It is by what you do in this life (good deeds or bad deeds) that determines your eternal destiny. Christianity is completely different from this. It is not religion.
Religion is man trying to reach up to God. The message of Christianity is God reaching down to man. Religion is about what man has to DO to be right with God. Christianity is about what God has already DONE to provide us the opportunity to be right with Him. Religion says you must EARN your salvation by doing good deeds or certain acts and not doing evil. Christianity says all we need to do is BELIEVE that Christ has already paid the price for the evil we have done. Christianity says we are all sinners (Romans 3:23; 6:23) and there is nothing we can do to earn the right to be saved. Christianity says that God (in the form of Jesus Christ) stepped into our place and paid the awful price that had to be paid for us. He gave us the free gift of salvation if we choose to believe in Jesus.
“Religion is a system of beliefs or a code of moral conduct that judges (qualifies or disqualifies) a person based on their adherence and obedience to certain codes, rules, laws, traditions, or the performance of required acts.”
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Selah
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Victoria
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Apostate Christianity, was my guess?
Selah
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Yes, definitely apostate.Apostate Christianity, was my guess?
101G
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@eve, @Victoria, @Selah,
GINOLJC, great dialogue between you all ..... like that. if you all don't mind... may 101G ask just 3 question? not for argument but for REASONING.
#1. John 1:3 "All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made." now this, Isaiah 44:24 "Thus saith the LORD, thy redeemer, and he that formed thee from the womb, I am the LORD that maketh all things; that stretcheth forth the heavens alone; that spreadeth abroad the earth by myself;"
is this the same ONE PERSON who "MADE ALL THINGS?" and for definitions, Alone: "having no one else present". and the term by: as in by himself, means, "3. Through, or with, denoting the agent, means, instrument or cause; as, "a city is destroyed by fire;" "profit is made by commerce;" "to take by force." This use answers to that of the Latin per, through, denoting a passing, acting, agency, or instrumentality." source the Noah Webster's 1828 Dictionary of American English. so again, is this the same ONE PERSON who "MADE ALL THINGS". BY himself, and ALONE, yes or no?
#2. Isaiah 41:4 "Who hath wrought and done it, calling the generations from the beginning? I the LORD, the first, and with the last; I am he." notice the term "WITH" ....... the FIRST is "WITH" the Last, kept this in mind, now this. Isaiah 48:12 "Hearken unto me, O Jacob and Israel, my called; I am he; I am the first, I also am the last." Remember, the "LORD". all caps is the First and ... "WITH" .... the LAST in Isaiah 41:4 above, right. but here in Isaiah 48:12 the "LORD" all caps is the FIRST and "ALSO" the LAST. so, is the FIRST the SAME ONE PERSON who is the LAST? and for definition, "Also", means .... having no one else present. READ THAT DEFINITION once more. so again is this the same ONE PERSON, the First and the Last, that the first was with the Last? yes, or no.
#3. a. Acts 2:32 "This Jesus hath God raised up, whereof we all are witnesses." b. Acts 3:26 "Unto you first God, having raised up his Son Jesus, sent him to bless you, in turning away every one of you from his iniquities." c. Acts 5:30 "The God of our fathers raised up Jesus, whom ye slew and hanged on a tree." one more, d. Acts 13:33 "God hath fulfilled the same unto us their children, in that he hath raised up Jesus again; as it is also written in the second psalm, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee."
so, without a doubt "GOD" raised up Jesus ... Correct? now this, LISTEN CAREFULLY, John 2:18 "Then answered the Jews and said unto him, What sign shewest thou unto us, seeing that thou doest these things?" John 2:19 "Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up." John 2:20 "Then said the Jews, Forty and six years was this temple in building, and wilt thou rear it up in three days?" John 2:21 "But he spake of the temple of his body." John 2:22 "When therefore he was risen from the dead, his disciples remembered that he had said this unto them; and they believed the scripture, and the word which Jesus had said."
Question, "WHO RAISED UP THE Lord JESUS BODY? was it God, The God of our fathers raised up Jesus, as stated in c. Acts 5:30 above, or was it Jesus himself as stated by Jesus himself in John 2:19 above? so, WHO raised up the body of the Lord Jesus? think, and REASON before you answer the questions above. thanks in advance.
remember, this is not for argument, but for "REASONING".... scripture, Isaiah 1:18 "Come now, and let us reason together, saith the LORD: though your sins be as scarlet, they shall be as white as snow; though they be red like crimson, they shall be as wool."
as with God, likewise with his children, "LET'S REASON".... together, thank you in advance. looking to hear your responses.
101G.
GINOLJC, great dialogue between you all ..... like that. if you all don't mind... may 101G ask just 3 question? not for argument but for REASONING.
#1. John 1:3 "All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made." now this, Isaiah 44:24 "Thus saith the LORD, thy redeemer, and he that formed thee from the womb, I am the LORD that maketh all things; that stretcheth forth the heavens alone; that spreadeth abroad the earth by myself;"
is this the same ONE PERSON who "MADE ALL THINGS?" and for definitions, Alone: "having no one else present". and the term by: as in by himself, means, "3. Through, or with, denoting the agent, means, instrument or cause; as, "a city is destroyed by fire;" "profit is made by commerce;" "to take by force." This use answers to that of the Latin per, through, denoting a passing, acting, agency, or instrumentality." source the Noah Webster's 1828 Dictionary of American English. so again, is this the same ONE PERSON who "MADE ALL THINGS". BY himself, and ALONE, yes or no?
#2. Isaiah 41:4 "Who hath wrought and done it, calling the generations from the beginning? I the LORD, the first, and with the last; I am he." notice the term "WITH" ....... the FIRST is "WITH" the Last, kept this in mind, now this. Isaiah 48:12 "Hearken unto me, O Jacob and Israel, my called; I am he; I am the first, I also am the last." Remember, the "LORD". all caps is the First and ... "WITH" .... the LAST in Isaiah 41:4 above, right. but here in Isaiah 48:12 the "LORD" all caps is the FIRST and "ALSO" the LAST. so, is the FIRST the SAME ONE PERSON who is the LAST? and for definition, "Also", means .... having no one else present. READ THAT DEFINITION once more. so again is this the same ONE PERSON, the First and the Last, that the first was with the Last? yes, or no.
#3. a. Acts 2:32 "This Jesus hath God raised up, whereof we all are witnesses." b. Acts 3:26 "Unto you first God, having raised up his Son Jesus, sent him to bless you, in turning away every one of you from his iniquities." c. Acts 5:30 "The God of our fathers raised up Jesus, whom ye slew and hanged on a tree." one more, d. Acts 13:33 "God hath fulfilled the same unto us their children, in that he hath raised up Jesus again; as it is also written in the second psalm, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee."
so, without a doubt "GOD" raised up Jesus ... Correct? now this, LISTEN CAREFULLY, John 2:18 "Then answered the Jews and said unto him, What sign shewest thou unto us, seeing that thou doest these things?" John 2:19 "Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up." John 2:20 "Then said the Jews, Forty and six years was this temple in building, and wilt thou rear it up in three days?" John 2:21 "But he spake of the temple of his body." John 2:22 "When therefore he was risen from the dead, his disciples remembered that he had said this unto them; and they believed the scripture, and the word which Jesus had said."
Question, "WHO RAISED UP THE Lord JESUS BODY? was it God, The God of our fathers raised up Jesus, as stated in c. Acts 5:30 above, or was it Jesus himself as stated by Jesus himself in John 2:19 above? so, WHO raised up the body of the Lord Jesus? think, and REASON before you answer the questions above. thanks in advance.
remember, this is not for argument, but for "REASONING".... scripture, Isaiah 1:18 "Come now, and let us reason together, saith the LORD: though your sins be as scarlet, they shall be as white as snow; though they be red like crimson, they shall be as wool."
as with God, likewise with his children, "LET'S REASON".... together, thank you in advance. looking to hear your responses.
101G.
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I stir up less strife than Christ did.
