All Claims of The Son's Deity

[dwight92070]

I guess their heart is in the wrong place just like most of the religious leaders of the day of Jesus. They were the majority, the loudest, had the most political power, and were the most financed yet the majority of them were enemies of the cross.

I say the majority of them had a heart in the wrong place, but not all. There is Nicodemus who rightly understood that Jesus was a man who God was with (not God who became a man) and Jesus never corrected him, according to John 3:2. However, on the matter of basic spiritual concepts, Nicodemus basically had no idea what he was talking about because he was cut from the same cloth as the rest of the blind and deaf Phariees, yet he wasn't unteachable and unreachable.

I can only imagine the look on Jesus' face when he said "You are Israel’s teacher,” said Jesus, “and you do not understand these things?" The head teacher of Israel was essentially a spiritual baby who seemed to think that "Can he enter his mother’s womb a second time to be born?" was a valid and reasonable question to ask. However, you can see how Nicodemus stood up for Jesus when he said “Does our law convict a man without first hearing from him to determine what he has done?” While Nicodemus was never explicitly said to be a follower of Jesus, it's likely he atleast sympathized with Jesus and did not believe he was guilty of any wrongdoing, contrary to what the bulk majority of them seemed to be saying. You will find very few Trinitarians like this, very few.

So when you continue preaching the teachings of Jesus, don't be surprised if the bulk majority of them simply hate you for it, even among the trinitarian establishment masquerading as the spriritually enlightened.

So you ARE the spiritually enlightened?

Hate is not the fruit of Christians. I have noticed that when someone accuses innocent people of hatred, they themselves are usually the ones with the hatred. I don't hate you or anyone and I do believe in the Trinity. Why do you hate Trinitarians?

 

[Peterlag]

I guess their heart is in the wrong place just like most of the religious leaders of the day of Jesus. They were the majority, the loudest, had the most political power, and were the most financed yet the majority of them were enemies of the cross.

I say the majority of them had a heart in the wrong place, but not all. There is Nicodemus who rightly understood that Jesus was a man who God was with (not God who became a man) and Jesus never corrected him, according to John 3:2. However, on the matter of basic spiritual concepts, Nicodemus basically had no idea what he was talking about because he was cut from the same cloth as the rest of the blind and deaf Phariees, yet he wasn't unteachable and unreachable.

I can only imagine the look on Jesus' face when he said "You are Israel’s teacher,” said Jesus, “and you do not understand these things?" The head teacher of Israel was essentially a spiritual baby who seemed to think that "Can he enter his mother’s womb a second time to be born?" was a valid and reasonable question to ask. However, you can see how Nicodemus stood up for Jesus when he said “Does our law convict a man without first hearing from him to determine what he has done?” While Nicodemus was never explicitly said to be a follower of Jesus, it's likely he atleast sympathized with Jesus and did not believe he was guilty of any wrongdoing, contrary to what the bulk majority of them seemed to be saying. You will find very few Trinitarians like this, very few.

So when you continue preaching the teachings of Jesus, don't be surprised if the bulk majority of them simply hate you for it, even among the trinitarian establishment masquerading as the spriritually enlightened.

What I will post elsewhere tonight...

The "logos" is God's expression of thought that became flesh with the coming of Jesus Christ.

The word "logos" (Word) denotes (I) "the expression of thought" as embodying a conception or idea. λόγος "logos" is something said (including the thought). So the word "logos" means an expression of thought. It makes perfect sense if we use this understanding everywhere the word "logos" is used. So in John 1:1 the Word is not Jesus, but rather it became flesh, which is God's expression of thought or plan that became flesh with the coming of Jesus Christ.

 

[Runningman]

So you ARE the spiritually enlightened?

Hate is not the fruit of Christians. I have noticed that when someone accuses innocent people of hatred, they themselves are usually the ones with the hatred.

Have you seen the insults people on this forum have hurled at Peter Lag on a near daily basis? In my very inbox, I have a message from a trinitarian who basically wished a violent death upon me before blocking me. Yes, there are some very hateful trinitarians here.

 

[Runningman]

What I will post elsewhere tonight...

The "logos" is God's expression of thought that became flesh with the coming of Jesus Christ.

The word "logos" (Word) denotes (I) "the expression of thought" as embodying a conception or idea. λόγος "logos" is something said (including the thought). So the word "logos" means an expression of thought. It makes perfect sense if we use this understanding everywhere the word "logos" is used. So in John 1:1 the Word is not Jesus, but rather it became flesh, which is God's expression of thought or plan that became flesh with the coming of Jesus Christ.

I think it's funny how @mikesw says we are too literal when he actually interprets John 1:1 literally. The minority verse never informs the majority of verses.

 

[dwight92070]

Have you seen the insults people on this forum have hurled at Peter Lag on a near daily basis? In my very inbox, I have a message from a trinitarian who basically wished a violent death upon me before blocking me. Yes, there are some very hateful trinitarians here.

People who claim to be Christains.

 

[Peterlag]

I think it's funny how @mikesw says we are too literal when he actually interprets John 1:1 literally. The minority verse never informs the majority of verses.

I have not looked at anything Mikesw writes in months because he just gets too nasty with these little digs. He can't just say well, we don't agree. Instead he writes stuff like well, I see you put out another ignorant post which does not surprise anyone since that's what you do because you're unable to understand anything. And also I think he's too far gone. Synergy has also been in the same group whereby I don't look or respond to him either for the same two reasons.

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[Daniel]

Have you seen the insults people on this forum have hurled at Peter Lag on a near daily basis? In my very inbox, I have a message from a trinitarian who basically wished a violent death upon me before blocking me. Yes, there are some very hateful trinitarians here.

I'm so glad that you are so sweet, warm, and wonderful. Keep up the good work.

 

[Daniel]

People who claim to be Christains.

You need to draw the old The Christian fish symbol, known as Ichthys. Then you will know if they are real Believers.

 

[Runningman]

I'm so glad that you are so sweet, warm, and wonderful. Keep up the good work.

This is the kind of characteristic bad attitude of trinitarians that get screenshotted and shared. I just said trintarians insulted Peter and another trinitarian highly suggested they wanted me to die a violent death. After that, rather than condemn them, you lavish on a thick serving of snark. You're nothing like Jesus. Next.

 

[Runningman]

I have not looked at anything Mikesw writes in months because he just gets too nasty with these little digs. He can't just say well, we don't agree. Instead he writes stuff like well, I see you put out another ignorant post which does not surprise anyone since that's what you do because you're unable to understand anything. And also I think he's too far gone. Synergy has also been in the same group whereby I don't look or respond to him either for the same two reasons.

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"Too far gone" doesn't really mean useless. Yes, it's true, people do seem to reach a point of no return, but that can be useful if you think about it. It's not ideal. Would rather they just get in line with what the Bible teaches, but atleast if they are being nasty they will do a fine job deterring others from joining them.

 

[Peterlag]

"Too far gone" doesn't really mean useless. Yes, it's true, people do seem to reach a point of no return, but that can be useful if you think about it. It's not ideal. Would rather they just get in line with what the Bible teaches, but atleast if they are being nasty they will do a fine job deterring others from joining them.

I mentioned you because I quoted something you said and another new guy said... "Hold it! You mean there's another one like you on here too?"

 

[Daniel]

This is the kind of characteristic bad attitude of trinitarians that get screenshotted and shared. I just said trintarians insulted Peter and another trinitarian highly suggested they wanted me to die a violent death. After that, rather than condemn them, you lavish on a thick serving of snark. You're nothing like Jesus. Next.

So much for sweet, warm, and wonderful. The thing is I've read your posts here and you are just as bad if not worse than any other poster. And yet your narcissistic personality wants us to believe your all that and a pizza too. Get over yourself.

 

[Regeneration]

So much for sweet, warm, and wonderful. The thing is I've read your posts here and you are just as bad if not worse than any other poster. And yet your narcissistic personality wants us to believe your all that and a pizza too. Get over yourself.

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[Peterlag]

So much for sweet, warm, and wonderful. The thing is I've read your posts here and you are just as bad if not worse than any other poster. And yet your narcissistic personality want us to believe your all that and a pizza too. Get over yourself.

If @Runningman has a narcissistic personality. Then what do I have?

 

[Runningman]

I mentioned you because I quoted something you said and another new guy said... "Hold it! You mean there's another one like you on here too?"

Were they surprised or happy? lol

 

[mikesw]

You know it's true that you don't have a single bible verse to save your life, if it were required, to back up your claims. That's gotta be tough. You just have a bunch of hot air and arguments.

The verse have been shared plenty of times here. I'm not here to vainly feed your repeated rejection of who Christ is. It is tough because you do not accept the truth and cannot defend your interpretation against the broad message of scripture. Why should I waste time with you? Maybe I just need to pray for you instead.

 

[Runningman]

The verse have been shared plenty of times here. I'm not here to vainly feed your repeated rejection of who Christ is. It is tough because you do not accept the truth and cannot defend your interpretation against the broad message of scripture. Why should I waste time with you? Maybe I just need to pray for you instead.

Since the trinity doctrine isn't Scripture, do you atleast admit it's an opinion?

 

[mikesw]

I think it's funny how @mikesw says we are too literal when he actually interprets John 1:1 literally. The minority verse never informs the majority of verses.

it is too bad you treat John 1 as funny instead of considering what it says. Indeed it is hard to be calm and rational with your incessant denials of Christ. Maybe I'm not the best for such apologetics to get people over their heresies.

 

[mikesw]

Since the trinity doctrine isn't Scripture, do you atleast admit it's an opinion?

Sure. You can have an opinion against the Triune God, but that is not very helpful for you to have. It has been an opinion of many to reject Christ's testimony. If your opinion meshed with scripture, that would be different.

 

[Regeneration]

If @Runningman has a narcissistic personality. Then what do I have?

You will have to make an appointment. The good news you realizes you need help.