Finally, an answer.
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Peterlag
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More data on John 1:1...
John 1:1 is not a teaching on the trinity or that we should believe or confess that Jesus is God. It seems difficult for people to understand that John 1:1 is introducing the Gospel of John, and not the Book of Genesis. The topic of John is God (the Father, the only God) at work in the ministry of the man Jesus of Nazareth, not the creation of rocks, trees and stars.Jesus Christ is not a lexical definition of logos. The verse does not say "In the beginning was Jesus." The "Word" is not synonymous with Jesus, or even the "Messiah." The word logos in John 1:1 refers to God's creative self-expression... His reason, purpose and plans, especially as they are brought into action. It refers to God's self-expression or communication of Himself. This has come to pass through His creation and especially the heavens. It has come through the spoken word of the prophets and through Scripture. Most notably it has come into being through His Son. The logos is the expression of God and is His communication of Himself just as a "word" is an outward expression of a person's thoughts. This outward expression of God has now occurred through His Son and thus it's perfectly understandable why Jesus is called the "Word." Jesus is an outward expression of God's reason, wisdom, purpose and plan. For the same reason we call revelation "a word from God" and the Bible "the Word of God."
If we understand that the logos is God's expression... His plan, purpose, reason and wisdom. Then it's clear they were with Him "in the beginning." Scripture says God's wisdom was "from the beginning" and it was common in Hebrew writing to personify a concept such as wisdom. The fact that the logos "became" flesh shows it did not exist that way before. There is no pre-existence for Jesus in this verse other than his figurative "existence" as the plan, purpose or wisdom of God for the salvation of man. The same is true with the "word" in writing. It had no literal pre-existence as a "spirit-book" somehow in eternity past, but came into being as God gave the revelation to people and they wrote it down.
A friens put it this way... "The word logos (Word) denotes (I) "the expression of thought" as embodying a conception or idea. λόγος logos, is something said (including the thought). So the word logos means an expression of thought. It makes perfect sense if we use this understanding everywhere the word logos is used. So in John 1:1 the Word is not Jesus, but rather it became flesh, which is God's expression of thought or plan that became flesh with the coming of Jesus Christ."
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The divine name kjv( 2015) put Gods name in NT where OT is being quoted, over 200 spots. They used the following sources to prove his name belongs.
1) Scriptures by the institute for scriptural research.
2) The Exegesis by Herb Jahn
3) New Englishmans Hebrew concordance by George V. Wigram.
Peterlag
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I read nothing in the New Testament about God saying anything about His name. What I do read is about the name of Jesus Christ being a big deal. A name that you probably do not care about.
The unitarians do not really belong in this thread because they do not have a view of the Trinity.
Romans 1:3-4 notes
concerning his Son, who was descended from David according to the flesh and was declared to be the Son of God in power according to the Spirit of holiness by his resurrection from the dead, Jesus Christ our Lord,
These verses speak first of the recognition of the humanity of Jesus as a descendant of David. The next verse provides the contrast of his divinity that does not exist as mere words but is demonstrated by the power of his resurrection from the dead.
The unitarians have to deny too much of scripture to sneak in their heretical view of Jesus.
Romans 1:3-4 notes
concerning his Son, who was descended from David according to the flesh and was declared to be the Son of God in power according to the Spirit of holiness by his resurrection from the dead, Jesus Christ our Lord,
These verses speak first of the recognition of the humanity of Jesus as a descendant of David. The next verse provides the contrast of his divinity that does not exist as mere words but is demonstrated by the power of his resurrection from the dead.
The unitarians have to deny too much of scripture to sneak in their heretical view of Jesus.
Jesus is my king. All true followers follow Jesus footsteps=John 17:6, 26--thus accomplish both of those simple tasks.
Peterlag
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Yeah well, that may have been the deal for Israel. But nobody comes to God's name in the New Testament.
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