Your Views on The Trinity

[Peterlag]

You wont read the following so I only posted a scant handful of those in the written word.

But now I do understand why you do not see things in the Bible.

You said..." You're write I don't read anything this long, but I do skim it."
YOU are skimming the Bible. That way you do not have to see and can deny.


Jesus claims it. THEY ARE ONE.

John 14:9​

Jesus said to him, “Have I been with you so long, and you still do not know me, Philip? Whoever has seen me has seen the Father. How can you say, ‘Show us the Father’?

What does this mean?

John 10:30-33​

I and the Father are one.” The Jews picked up stones again to stone him. Jesus answered them, “I have shown you many good works from the Father; for which of them are you going to stone me?” The Jews answered him, “It is not for a good work that we are going to stone you but for blasphemy, because you, being a man, make yourself God.”

John 1:18​

No one has ever seen God; the only God, who is at the Father's side, he has made him known.

Colossians 2:9-10​

For in him the whole fullness of deity dwells bodily, and you have been filled in him, who is the head of all rule and authority.

I wont mention Heb 1:8 because you always deflect away from it or tell us it does not mean what it says. YOU ARE going to face God the Father some day and YOU ARE going to have to explain why you do not believe Him.

Who would this be if not God the Son?

Hebrews 1:3​

He is the radiance of the glory of God and the exact imprint of his nature, and he upholds the universe by the word of his power. After making purification for sins, he sat down at the right hand of the Majesty on high,

Isaiah 7:14​

Therefore the Lord himself will give you a sign. Behold, the virgin shall conceive and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel.

Matthew 1:23​

“Behold, the virgin shall conceive and bear a son, and they shall call his name Immanuel” (which means, God with us).

In Titus it . says this

Titus 2:13​

Waiting for our blessed hope, the appearing of the glory of our great God and Savior Jesus Christ,

1 Timothy 3:16​

Great indeed, we confess, is the mystery of godliness: He was manifested in the flesh, vindicated by the Spirit, seen by angels, proclaimed among the nations, believed on in the world, taken up in glory.

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I did not I say I skim the Bible. I said I skim what the trinity folks write. Here's an example...

I see this 1 Timothy 20 times a day. That's about 100 times a week and it's every week. Do I really need to read it 100 times a week?

1 Timothy 3:16
“he.” There are some Greek manuscripts that read, “God appeared in the flesh.” This reading of some Greek manuscripts has passed into some English versions, and the King James Version is one of them. Trinitarian scholars admit, however, that these Greek texts were altered by scribes in favor of the Trinitarian position. The reading of the earliest and best manuscripts is not “God” but rather “he who.” Almost all the modern versions have the verse as “the mystery of godliness is great, which was manifest in the flesh,” or some close equivalent.

 

[DavidTree]

Begotten of the Father before All Ages: The Biblical Basis of Eternal Generation according to the Church Fathers​

Author:
Charles Lee Irons
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This article first appeared in the CHRISTIAN RESEARCH JOURNAL, volume 40, number 01 (2017). The full text of this article in PDF format can be obtained by clicking here. For further information about to the CHRISTIAN RESEARCH JOURNAL go to: http://www.equip.org/christian-research-journal/

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SYNOPSIS

The purpose of this essay is to understand the doctrine of the eternal generation of the Son. Eternal generation is not a philosophical speculation, nor a theological deduction, but an exegetically grounded doctrine. The church fathers appealed to several biblical texts in both the Old and New Testament in support of their conviction that the Son is eternally begotten of the Father. The concept of begetting is a metaphor drawn from the embodied experience of human fathers begetting human sons. This doctrine is important because it is crucial to defending the full deity of the Son, and it is the linchpin of the classical doctrine of the Trinity.

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And another heresy is born

WHY ETERNAL GENERATION IS IMPORTANT

Because they need to keep adding man-made doctrines that did not come from God

 

[Studyman]

There's no Trinity.

Again, I have told you now several times that I don't believe in the Catholic Trinity, or a triune god. The scriptures I posted were not posted to promote any "Trinitarian" belief at all. None. Only to show what I believe Paul and Jesus wanted us to know, which is that the Spirit of Christ in the mortal man Jesus, existed before Jesus, the man, was born. I don't think there can be any doubt about Paul's belief in this, or Peters, based on what is written. You and the JW don't believe this, that is fine. I'm not a JW, a Unitarian or a Trinitarian.

The verses that are used to try to teach it are all taken out of context, or not understood how the words were used in the culture they were written in, or from a bad translation. It's an evil Catholic concept that was sold to the world mostly by the power of the sword.

John 8:58
At the last super, the disciples were trying to find out who would deny the Christ. They said literally, "Not I am, Lord" Matthew 26:22, 25. No one would say the disciples were trying to deny they were God because they were using the phrase "Not I am." "I am" was a common way of designating oneself and it did not mean you were claiming to be God. The argument is made that because Jesus was "before" Abraham, Jesus must be God. Jesus figuratively existed in Abraham's time. He did not actually physically exist as a person, but rather he existed in the mind of God as God's plan for the redemption of man. In order for the Trinitarian argument that Jesus' "I am" statement in John 8:58 makes him God, his statement must be equivalent with God's "I am" statement in Exodus 3:14. The two statements are very different. The Greek phrase in John does mean "I am." The Hebrew phrase in Exodus means "to be" or "to become." God was saying "I will be what I will be."

I don't believe in the Trinity, a triune god, a 3 person god head. I don't believe Jesus overcame sin and Death because HE was "God". You are creating a belief I don't have, and are trying to prove it false.

 

[FreeInChrist]

Again, I have told you now several times that I don't believe in the Catholic Trinity, or a triune god. The scriptures I posted were not posted to promote any "Trinitarian" belief at all. None. Only to show what I believe Paul and Jesus wanted us to know, which is that the Spirit of Christ in the mortal man Jesus, existed before Jesus, the man, was born. I don't think there can be any doubt about Paul's belief in this, or Peters, based on what is written. You and the JW don't believe this, that is fine. I'm not a JW, a Unitarian or a Trinitarian.



I don't believe in the Trinity, a triune god, a 3 person god head. I don't believe Jesus overcame sin and Death because HE was "God". You are creating a belief I don't have, and are trying to prove it false.

I am not here to talk about the trinity.

I merely want to know, based on your "I don't believe Jesus overcame sin and Death because HE was "God"

How it is that He was resurrected?

Also, How He did the miracles like making the blind see and bringing back to life and walking through a closed door, walking on water, the loaves and fishes, and water into wine stuff.

And how the people who saw the empty tomb... for there were more then one... how it happened... and just as important Why?

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but I think it only fair to see why they believe as they do based on statements they make.

Like if Jesus had no special attributes that He would have had to have to do most of this stuff, do you feel faith in Him is necessary for salvation or are you a predestined person who believes God does it all/

Why do you think Jesus , when he sent them out, said to baptize in the name of the Father , Son, and Holy Spirit.

I have read recently that they did not really do that early on. Though others say they did.

How about his mother? Virgin or not? If you say yes, then that should qualify Him for something special? No?

I am sure there are things I have not mentioned, so if you care to include in your response Ill thank you in advance.

Well, I have another interesting subject to post and want to get that on here soon so I'll leave you alone.

Blessings

 

[Red Baker]

@Studyman

But I do believe, based on what is actually written in Scriptures, that the Spirit of Christ which was in the Prophets of Old, and the mortal man Jesus, existed with His Father before all we know was created.

I have been reading through some of these post, and you finally have given your clearest understanding of the Godhead as of yet.

So, let me ask you some questions: 1) Are you saying that Jesus was "no more" of a man than the prophets of old? 2) That the Spirit in him, was no more than what was in the prophets of old? 3) That Jesus as a Spirit existed with the Father before the foundation of the world? So, are there two Sprits, or one? 4) Jesus being the only begotten Son of God, does this make him equal with God, sharing the one Eternal Divine nature, that all son's shares with their father's?

 

[Red Baker]

52.) There's no verse in the Bible that says we should believe or confess that Jesus is God.

I'm debating whether or not even waste my time with you, you certainly do not deserve God's children's time. I might one time address each one above~it would be no problem in doing so.

 

[Studyman]

I am not here to talk about the trinity.

I merely want to know, based on your "I don't believe Jesus overcame sin and Death because HE was "God"

There is a popular religious philosophy promoted by the "other voice" in the garden that God placed me in, that preaches that Jesus overcame Sin and Death, "Because" HE was God, not because HE lived by Faith in His Father. This deceiving voice teaches that when the going got tough for Jesus, as it dos will all mortal men, Jesus just kicked in God Powers that were withheld from EVERY other Human ever created. This teaching, although very popular, demeans the Work of Jesus, and makes a mockery of His Life, as it implies Jesus risked His Life for no one, was never in danger and although placed the requirement of Faith on all other humans, He Himself didn't lift Faith with even One of His Fingers. And only achieved what anyone with the power of God could achieve.

It is a wicked and Evil teaching and I will not adopt or partake of it.

How it is that He was resurrected?

It is written that His Father, who HE ascended to, who He is even now an advocate between me and His Father for, who Sent Him in the first place, raised Him from the dead.

Acts 2: 22 Ye men of Israel, hear these words; Jesus of Nazareth, a man approved of God among you by miracles and wonders and signs, which God did by him in the midst of you, as ye yourselves also know: 23 Him, being delivered by the determinate counsel and foreknowledge of God, ye have taken, and by wicked hands have crucified and slain: 24 Whom God hath raised up, having loosed the pains of death: because it was not possible that he should be holden of it.

Acts 2: 31 He seeing this before spake of the resurrection of Christ, that his soul was not left in hell, neither his flesh did see corruption. 32 This Jesus hath God raised up, whereof we all are witnesses.

Acts 3: 14 But ye denied the Holy One and the Just, and desired a murderer to be granted unto you; 15 And killed the Prince of life, whom God hath raised from the dead; whereof we are witnesses.

26 Unto you first God, having raised up his Son Jesus, sent him to bless you, in turning away every one of you from his iniquities.

Acts 13: 29 And when they had fulfilled all that was written of him, they took him down from the tree, and laid him in a sepulchre. 30 But God raised him from the dead:

Romans 4: 24 But for us also, to whom it shall be imputed, if we believe "on him" that "raised up Jesus our Lord from the dead"; 25 Who was delivered for our offences, and was raised again for our justification.

Rom. 10: 9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.

1 Cor. 6: 14 And God hath both raised up the Lord, and will also raise up us by his own power.

Col. 2: 12 Buried with him in baptism, wherein also ye are risen with him through the faith of the operation of God, who hath raised him from the dead.

1 Peter 1: 21 Who by him do believe in God, that raised him up from the dead, and gave him glory; that your faith and hope might be in God.

So it is my understanding that the God who sent Him to create all that was created, and who sent Him to become the Lamb of God for the good of the Faithful, raised Him from the dead.

Also, How He did the miracles like making the blind see and bringing back to life and walking through a closed door, walking on water, the loaves and fishes, and water into wine stuff.

He said it was by Faith. Moses split the Red Sea and turned rivers into Blood, by faith in the Power of God. Peter walked on water with Him, by Faith in the Power of God. Elijah raised a gentiles son from the dead, by Faith in the Power of God.

Jesus Himself tells both you and I;

John 17: 1 These words spake Jesus, and lifted up his eyes to heaven, and said, Father, the hour is come; glorify thy Son, that thy Son also may glorify thee: 2 As thou hast given him power over all flesh, that he should give eternal life to as many as thou hast given him.

Didn't Jesus have Great Faith? Isn't it written in our Bible, "The Just shall Live by Faith"? Doesn't Paul "Press towards the Prize of the High calling of God that was in Christ Jesus? This would be HIS Faith in God, Yes?

Heb. 11: 33 Who through faith subdued kingdoms, wrought righteousness, obtained promises, stopped the mouths of lions, 34 Quenched the violence of fire, escaped the edge of the sword, out of weakness were made strong, waxed valiant in fight, turned to flight the armies of the aliens. 35 Women received their dead raised to life again: and others were tortured, not accepting deliverance; that they might obtain a better resurrection:

Matt. 9: 21 For she said within herself, If I may but touch his garment, I shall be whole. 22 But Jesus turned him about, and when he saw her, he said, Daughter, be of good comfort; "thy faith" hath made thee whole. And the woman was made whole from that hour.

Didn't Jesus Live by Faith in His Father, Faith more than a mustard seed?

And how the people who saw the empty tomb... for there were more then one... how it happened... and just as important Why?

This even was Prophesied throughout the Law and Prophets, Zacharias and Simeon understood these things even before Jesus was born. How did they know these things if not through Faith?

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but I think it only fair to see why they believe as they do based on statements they make.

Like if Jesus had no special attributes that He would have had to have to do most of this stuff, do you feel faith in Him is necessary for salvation or are you a predestined person who believes God does it all/

I know there are "many" voices in the garden God placed us in, and Jesus Himself warns of them, especially the "Many", "Who come in His Name".

I believe God reveals Himself through the Holy scriptures. This is why the Jesus "of the Bible" teaches you and I to "Live by" Every Word of God, and why Paul teaches that it is the Holy Scriptures that are trustworthy "for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works".

I advocate that a man "Yield himself" to this God, through believe/Faith, just like every example of Faithful man in the Bible did, including the Author of the perfect Faith, the Jesus "of the bible".

Why do you think Jesus , when he sent them out, said to baptize in the name of the Father , Son, and Holy Spirit.

God is a Holy Spirit, and His Son is the Sceptre of His Kingdom. Where is the teaching that God is a Triune God, like the ancient Pagan gods? Didn't God say not to create images of Him, in the Likeness of man?

I have read recently that they did not really do that early on. Though others say they did.

It is written that fresh water and polluted water can not come out of the same well. If a religion rejects God's Judgments and creates their own, rejects God's Statutes and creates their own, rejects God's Sabbaths and creates their own, can any Truth of God reside in them? The Scriptures say NO! For me, it seems more important to "Seek First the Kingdom of God and HIS Righteousness, like the Jesus "of the Bible" instructs, than to spend so much time trying to justify the ancient religious tradition of a triune god.

Truly Jesus Himself didn't spend any time at all promoting such a philosophy. This is in large part, why I choose to pay attention to what HE actually says, over what this world's religious system promotes.

How about his mother? Virgin or not? If you say yes, then that should qualify Him for something special? No?

In my understanding, the Christ was an immortal God, not above, but equal with His Master, His Father who HE calls the One True God. This Christ, laid down His Immortality, as God gave HIM the power to do so, and became a mortal Human, for me. To Save me. To preserve my family. I have never said HE was not Special, as no one has ever risked so much for me.

Shall I not then not only hear Him, but also "DO" what HE says?

I am sure there are things I have not mentioned, so if you care to include in your response Ill thank you in advance.

Well, I have another interesting subject to post and want to get that on here soon so I'll leave you alone.

Blessings

First of all, you can't know how wonderful it is for someone to ask honest questions, to understand a perspective, as opposed to trick questions or trap questions which are so popular in this world religious system. Thank you so much for the relevant questions, and the opportunity for me to express my beliefs, having been separated from this world's religions and their philosophies for almost 30 years now.

Please feel free to engage with me concerning my honest answers to your questions, these discussions are great to have among men Seek to know HIM.

You have a great rest of your day.

 

[Runningman]

@Studyman

I have been reading through some of these post, and you finally have given your clearest understanding of the Godhead as of yet.

So, let me ask you some questions: 1) Are you saying that Jesus was "no more" of a man than the prophets of old? 2) That the Spirit in him, was no more than what was in the prophets of old? 3) That Jesus as a Spirit existed with the Father before the foundation of the world? So, are there two Sprits, or one? 4) Jesus being the only begotten Son of God, does this make him equal with God, sharing the one Eternal Divine nature, that all son's shares with their father's?

What makes Jesus unique is he is the begotten Son of God and the Messiah who would save his people from his sins. He is also the mediator of the New Covenant. He made a covenant with God and part of that covenant is anyone can get access to God through Jesus. He is also sinless, though he has the capability to sin. Otherwise, yes he's a human prophet anointed by God like many others. Jesus has a lot of things in common with others.

 

[Peterlag]

I'm debating whether or not even waste my time with you, you certainly do not deserve God's children's time. I might one time address each one above~it would be no problem in doing so.

I would be happy if you could just address the last one.

 

[Peterlag]

Again, I have told you now several times that I don't believe in the Catholic Trinity, or a triune god. The scriptures I posted were not posted to promote any "Trinitarian" belief at all. None. Only to show what I believe Paul and Jesus wanted us to know, which is that the Spirit of Christ in the mortal man Jesus, existed before Jesus, the man, was born. I don't think there can be any doubt about Paul's belief in this, or Peters, based on what is written. You and the JW don't believe this, that is fine. I'm not a JW, a Unitarian or a Trinitarian.



I don't believe in the Trinity, a triune god, a 3 person god head. I don't believe Jesus overcame sin and Death because HE was "God". You are creating a belief I don't have, and are trying to prove it false.

To me it's all the same. Oneness to me is just a spin off from the trinity. Believing Jesus is God is just a spin off from the trinity. Believing Jesus is the Holy Spirit is just a spin off from the trinity. Believing Jesus was around before Mary gave birth to him is just a spin off from the trinity.

1.) God is God who is spirit and holy which is why he is often called the Holy Spirit.
2.) Jesus was born a man and still is a man with a new spiritual body.

 

[Peterlag]

I'm debating whether or not even waste my time with you, you certainly do not deserve God's children's time. I might one time address each one above~it would be no problem in doing so.

You might have to help me with this one @Runningman. @Red Baker says he's thinking about addressing all 52 if and when he decides if I'm worthy.

 

[Runningman]

You might have to help me with this one @Runningman. @Red Baker says he's thinking about addressing all 52 if and when he decides if I'm worthy.

I'm watching this thread so if anyone replies I'll check it out.

 

[Red Baker]

@Runningman

What makes Jesus unique is he is the begotten Son of God and the Messiah

Jesus Christ is much more than just being unique, he was indeed God manifest in the flesh, without qualification. He was the express image of God in human flesh, when anyone saw Jesus, they saw God, if they had eyes to see, if, not, then he would be just another man to them. He also, was the only begotten of God, in the manner in which he was begotten.

who would save his people from his sins.

Who was his people? God's elect!

Romans 8:33​

“Who shall lay any thing to the charge of God's elect? It is God that justifieth.”

If his people, then that makes him God, in the flesh! You step right into that!

Otherwise, yes he's a human prophet anointed by God like many others. Jesus has a lot of things in common with others.

He was indeed fully flesh, yet also fully God. He of course had a lot of things in common with man, that goes without saying, yet he had many things that no man had, or could ever have!

John 1:48​

“Nathanael saith unto him, Whence knowest thou me? Jesus answered and said unto him, Before that Philip called thee, when thou wast under the fig tree, I saw thee.”

Luke 6:8​

“But he knew their thoughts, and said to the man which had the withered hand, Rise up, and stand forth in the midst. And he arose and stood forth.”

Matthew 12:25​

“And Jesus knew their thoughts, and said unto them, Every kingdom divided against itself is brought to desolation; and every city or house divided against itself shall not stand:”

Your jesus is another jesus, ours is the I AM THAT I AM. The God of Genesis 1:1!

 

[Red Baker]

@Peterlag

1.) The word "Trinity" is not in the Bible

So what? Even the word “Bible” is not found in the Bible, but we use it anyway to describe the Bible. Likewise, “omniscience” which means “all-knowing,” “omnipotence” which means “all-powerful,” and “omnipresence” which means “present everywhere,” are words not found in the Bible either, but we use them to describe the attributes of God. We don’t have to see a specific word in the Bible in order for the concept it describes to be true. Why should this be any different for the word “Trinity” and the concept that it represents? I do not know your overall beliefs, but pretty sure you teach or hold to doctrine that's not specifically stated in the scriptures. The concept is clearly stated.

2nd Corinthians 13:14​

“The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, and the love of God, and the communion of the Holy Ghost, be with you all. Amen.

There is "one" God manifested to us as three only according to the creation and the redemption of God's elect. The only God we shall ever see with our eyes will be JESUS CHRIST, since God is a Spirit that lives in eternity, always has, always will whom no man or angels can or will ever see.

 

[Peterlag]

@Peterlag

So what? Even the word “Bible” is not found in the Bible, but we use it anyway to describe the Bible. Likewise, “omniscience” which means “all-knowing,” “omnipotence” which means “all-powerful,” and “omnipresence” which means “present everywhere,” are words not found in the Bible either, but we use them to describe the attributes of God. We don’t have to see a specific word in the Bible in order for the concept it describes to be true. Why should this be any different for the word “Trinity” and the concept that it represents? I do not know your overall beliefs, but pretty sure you teach or hold to doctrine that's not specifically stated in the scriptures. The concept is clearly stated.

2nd Corinthians 13:14​

“The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, and the love of God, and the communion of the Holy Ghost, be with you all. Amen.

There is "one" God manifested to us as three only according to the creation and the redemption of God's elect. The only God we shall ever see with our eyes will be JESUS CHRIST, since God is a Spirit that lives in eternity, always has, always will whom no man or angels can or will ever see.

Can you do the last one? Number 52. There's no verse in the Bible that says we should believe or confess that Jesus is God.

 

[praise_yeshua]

Interesting that God inspired no one in the Bible to give us a heads up about that.

I suppose you deny DNA because it isn't referenced as such in your "bible".

 

[JLB]

God made man in His image and that image is probably the spirit He created in us since that's what God is. God is Holy and He's Spirit which is why He's often called The Holy Spirit.

What about Eve, was Eve created in the image of God?

 

[FreeInChrist]

God made man in His image and that image is probably the spirit He created in us since that's what God is. God is Holy and He's Spirit which is why He's often called The Holy Spirit.

 

[Studyman]

To me it's all the same. Oneness to me is just a spin off from the trinity. Believing Jesus is God is just a spin off from the trinity. Believing Jesus is the Holy Spirit is just a spin off from the trinity. Believing Jesus was around before Mary gave birth to him is just a spin off from the trinity.

1.) God is God who is spirit and holy which is why he is often called the Holy Spirit.
2.) Jesus was born a man and still is a man with a new spiritual body.

I never said that the flesh and blood man Jesus was around before Mary. Again, like for the 3rd time, you make up things, attribute them to me, and then argue against them as if I said it. That is just intellectually dishonest.

You know, it would be so nice if you JW's could be taught how to listen to what is told to you, instead of always just talking. Perhaps if Russell had taught you this important life skill, then when Jesus and Paul and Peter all tell you through the Scriptures, that the "Spirit of Christ" Existed in Israel and the Prophets as far back as Abel, and even before the world was, you might be at least curious as to why they said it.

 

[Runningman]

@Runningman

Jesus Christ is much more than just being unique, he was indeed God manifest in the flesh, without qualification. He was the express image of God in human flesh, when anyone saw Jesus, they saw God, if they had eyes to see, if, not, then he would be just another man to them. He also, was the only begotten of God, in the manner in which he was begotten.

This is your unscriptural opinion. The difference between Scripture and opinion is that Scripture does not state your opinion.

Who was his people? God's elect!

Romans 8:33​

“Who shall lay any thing to the charge of God's elect? It is God that justifieth.”

If his people, then that makes him God, in the flesh! You step right into that!

Israel is not only Jesus' people, but Jesus is one of the people who is of the same ethnicity and under the same Laws and Covenants as his people. Jesus is also one of God's elect, not God who elected anyone.

Romans 9
3 For I could wish that I myself were accursed and cut off from Christ for the sake of my brethren, my kinsmen by race. 4 They are Israelites, and to them belong the sonship, the glory, the covenants, the giving of the law, the worship, and the promises; 5 to them belong the patriarchs, and of their race, according to the flesh, is the Christ. God who is over all be blessed for ever. Amen.

He was indeed fully flesh, yet also fully God. He of course had a lot of things in common with man, that goes without saying, yet he had many things that no man had, or could ever have!

John 1:48​

“Nathanael saith unto him, Whence knowest thou me? Jesus answered and said unto him, Before that Philip called thee, when thou wast under the fig tree, I saw thee.”

Luke 6:8​

“But he knew their thoughts, and said to the man which had the withered hand, Rise up, and stand forth in the midst. And he arose and stood forth.”

Matthew 12:25​

“And Jesus knew their thoughts, and said unto them, Every kingdom divided against itself is brought to desolation; and every city or house divided against itself shall not stand:”

Those are examples of a vision and divine revelation.

Your jesus is another jesus, ours is the I AM THAT I AM. The God of Genesis 1:1!

Jesus is never called the I AM in the Bible. Read Acts 3:13. Jesus is the son/servsant of the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, but the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob is the I AM according to Exodus 3:14,15. Jesus is never called atleast a dozen of God's exclusive names and titles.