Micaiah
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What’s your scriptural basis for this statement?
You shall worship the Lord you God only.
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What’s your scriptural basis for this statement?
Amen!!! HE was quoting His Father and my Father, His God and my God. He was not a Hypocrite in that He didn't tell us to Worship His Father, and then not worship His Father.
Matt. 4: 4 But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth "of God". And whose Words did the man Jesus say HE brings to you and me Civic, His Words and HIS Will? Or the Will of His Father in heaven that is greater than HE?
John 4: 22 Ye worship ye know not what: we "know what we worship": "for salvation is of the Jews". 23 But the hour cometh, and now is, when the "true worshippers" shall "worship the Father" in spirit and in truth: for "the Father" seeketh such to worship him. 24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.
John 14: 26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send "in my name", he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you. 27 Peace I leave with you, my peace I give unto you: not as the world giveth, give I unto you. Let not your heart be troubled, neither let it be afraid. 28 Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, "I go unto the Father": for my Father is greater than I.
Recently Civic, you were preaching to others that Jesus isn't a Spirit, and that those who don't believe He was still in the flesh, are Anti-Christ. Which is what you called me for believing what is written. You Sited James's reluctance to be believe God His Father had raised Him. Here, the Jesus "of the Bible" is teaching that the God HE worshipped, who HE ascended to, and "true worshippers' worship" is a Spirit, and not flesh.
So even now, "many" who call Jesus Lord, Lord, refuse to worship the One True God that the Jesus "of the Bible" tells us to worship, who is a Spirit. They claim to worship a god that is flesh, in this world's religions case, a long-haired, very handsome man.
Could it be that they have adopted this world's "image of God" created by man that they call "Jesus", whose statues and images we see promoted by this world by religions who "come in His Name", and call Him Lord, Lord, that Jesus Himself warned about?
Christ is my head no doubt, and the One True God sent Him to be my Lord and Savior, my High Priest, and is an advocate between me and His God and my God to this very day, at least according to what is actually written.
1 John 1 My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate "with the Father", Jesus Christ the righteous:
Acts 7: 55 But he, being full of the Holy Ghost, looked up stedfastly into heaven, and saw the glory of God, "and" Jesus standing on the right hand "of God", 56 And said, Behold, I see the heavens opened, and the "Son of man" standing on the right hand of God.
1 Cor. 11: 1 Be ye followers of me, even as I also am of Christ. 2 Now I praise you, brethren, that ye remember me in all things, and keep the ordinances, "as I delivered them to you". 3 But I would have you know, that the head of every man "is Christ"; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ "is God".
John 17: 3 And "this is life eternal", that they might know thee the only true God, "and" Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.
Shall we not then follow this same Christ and Worship the God HE worshipped, and tells us to Worship? Even if the religions of this world, who come in Christ's Name, have created another god? Didn't Paul specifically warn of this very thing?
Rom. 1: 21 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, (Accused him of placing laws impossible to obey, then slaughtered those who didn't obey) neither were thankful; (For God's Instruction in Righteousness, and the Son HE sent on our behalf) but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.
22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, 23 And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things. 24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves: 25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served "the creature" more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.
Truly my Lord and Savior, "Who is the image of the invisible God", "the firstborn" of every creature, has reconciled me to His God and my God, and by His Life in me, shall I be saved, "If I endure to the end".
Amen.
Acts 2 vs Antioch vs Rom 12 and 14 vs Corinthian's gatherings. Are you saying there is one only group with its form of worship and gatherings that is true? Perhaps I should note I did not include Mormonism and JWs within my statement.
But what Christ will they be coming to?
On the premise I was basing these points on, they are coming to the true Christ. It may just be that everything else will be burned up as hay, wood, and stubble.
I partly base the idea on a friend's testimony whose mom took her to christian science church but my friend only believed on Christ . Eventually she got to go to a proper Christian church.
Runningman
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No. The presentation is incorrect. For your premise to remain true, the Bible would have to be in contradiction which it isn't. Since I just showed you were a singular God named YHWH openly stated there are no other God's beside Himself and that in the prophecy we have Jesus next to YHWH, such as in Psalm 2:7 and Psalm 110:1, then it plainly means Jesus and YHWH aren't the same person. How could you come to a different conclusion?You ran away from the verses I posted like a cheetahlol
Then they cannot believe the doctrine they are being fed
civic
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Also to add to the OP we See Christ is worshipped on the throe in heaven by all creation in Revelation 5 and 22.
Christ is shown to be the Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the coming one and the almightyAlso to add to the OP we See Christ is worshipped on the throe in heaven by all creation in Revelation 5 and 22.
Revelation 22:13–21 (KJV 1900) — 13 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last. 14 Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city. 15 For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie. 16 I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star. 17 And the Spirit and the bride say, Come. And let him that heareth say, Come. And let him that is athirst come. And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely. 18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book: 19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book. 20 He which testifieth these things saith, Surely I come quickly. Amen. Even so, come, Lord Jesus. 21 The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you all. Amen.
Revelation 1:7–8 (KJV 1900) — 7 Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen. 8 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.
civic
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Amen
Micaiah
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“…if any man obey not our word by this epistle, note that man, and have no company with him, that he may be ashamed.” (2 Thessalonians 3:14, KJV)
I don’t see any room allowing multiple preferences by individuals according to scriptures like these…
cute how you use that out of context. The issues include idleness and living a quiet life. The last admonition is
1 Thes 3:15 Do not regard him as an enemy, but warn him as a brother.
It seems that you take the verse as addressing a general topic of differences in worship or minor doctrines. That rejection of general Christian groups is dangerous trap that people too often fall into.
Remember to keep the texts in context when you share them
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Right. I'm not trying to make too much of a doctrine around the idea, but Jesus did say his sheep know his voice and they won't go to another.
John 10:1–5.
Truly, truly, I say to you, he who does not enter the sheepfold by the door but climbs in by another way, that man is a thief and a robber. 2 But he who enters by the door is the shepherd of the sheep. 3 To him the gatekeeper opens. The sheep hear his voice, and he calls his own sheep by name and leads them out. 4 When he has brought out all his own, he goes before them, and the sheep follow him, for they know his voice. 5 A stranger they will not follow, but they will flee from him, for they do not know the voice of strangers
Micaiah
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Oh brother, the “out of context” card…
Listen to the scripture:
“Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them.” (Romans 16:17, KJV)
I will still discuss stuff even though you are rejecting the doctrine taught.
So can you tell me what doctrines they had learned that were under threat by those seeking to divide the (first-century) Roman church?
Micaiah
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Are you serious?
The doctrines that are contained in the word of God.
You really didn’t know that???
I assume you have not considered which doctrines were threatened or improper in Romans. That makes your use of that verse out of context. But Romans is difficult to understand, so you are not likely to understand what was in dispute.
Micaiah
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That’s absurd!
It’s easy to understand!
Goodness gracious…
You are the one who needs the help here.
I perceive that you have poured soo much extra biblical leaven into your mind that the pollution has you thoroughly clouded.
Okay. You won the argument with your wonderful sharing of scriptures. So share with me the doctrines that were disputed in Romans.
Micaiah
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Sharing scriptures is wonderful my friend.
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