Who is the creator

[TibiasDad]

YHVH(Jehovah is the HE.

John says the Word is the HE ! “All things were created by him, and without him nothing was made that has been made.”


Doug

 

[TibiasDad]

I explained it to you. The Greek word for God = Theos. But when one is called god in the same paragraph-The true God is called Ho-Theos and the one being called god is called Theos.

I’m supposed to accept an explanation of Greek grammar from someone who hasn’t studied Greek? I gave you the correct definitions! Theos= a god, ho Theos= the God.

Theos is a general, non specific term, while ho Theos is distinctive in its focus.

Which god will you serve? The God of Abraham, Issac and Jacob!

Doug

 

[FreeInChrist]

It is God doing all things with that force.

Ah.... May the force be with you......... I dont think so

 

[Keiw1]

John says the Word is the HE ! “All things were created by him, and without him nothing was made that has been made.”


Doug

It as well says-It was accomplished-THROUGH him. That means 100% another did it.

 

[Keiw1]

I’m supposed to accept an explanation of Greek grammar from someone who hasn’t studied Greek? I gave you the correct definitions! Theos= a god, ho Theos= the God.

Theos is a general, non specific term, while ho Theos is distinctive in its focus.

Which god will you serve? The God of Abraham, Issac and Jacob!

Doug

John 1:1--2Cor 4:4--The only 2 spots in NT where 2 are called God and god. Both spots, the true God called Ho Theos--The Word and satan both called Theos--Thus translate the same in this scenario--Ho Theos= The God--Theos = god.

 

[charismaticlady]

It as well says-It was accomplished-THROUGH him. That means 100% another did it.

The Godhead which includes Jesus is the Father, Son and Holy Spirit.

The Father is the mind - who speaks the Word, by the power of the Spirit. Together they are one God. Just as we are one person of spirit, soul and body, 1 Thess. 5:23

 

[Keiw1]

Ah.... May the force be with you......... I dont think so

Father-Son both have personal names( as do all living beings)--Holy Sp= 0
Father-son both seen sitting on thrones--Holy sp= 0
One must know( John 17:3) Father-son to get eternal life--Holy sp= 0

 

[Keiw1]

The Godhead which includes Jesus is the Father, Son and Holy Spirit.

The Father is the mind - who speaks the Word, by the power of the Spirit. Together they are one God. Just as we are one person of spirit, soul and body, 1 Thess. 5:23

Jesus taught the Father was in heaven, while he was on Earth. = Our Father who art in heaven hallowed be your( not ours) name=YHVH(Jehovah)
Here is Jesus back in heaven, sitting at Gods right hand-Rev 3:12--Stressing to all 4 x in a single paragraph that he has a God. Best to believe Jesus.

 

[charismaticlady]

Jesus taught the Father was in heaven, while he was on Earth. = Our Father who art in heaven hallowed be your( not ours) name=YHVH(Jehovah)
Here is Jesus back in heaven, sitting at Gods right hand-Rev 3:12--Stressing to all 4 x in a single paragraph that he has a God. Best to believe Jesus.

The Father is Spirit and is EVERYWHERE. Think of it this way, 1 Corinthians 2:16 says that those (who are born again of the Spirit) have the mind of Christ. I've explained that in the Godhead, the Father is the mind. That is why Jesus had the mind of the Father, even though size wise, the Father reached heaven. Also, the born again have the seed of the Father. They are one and the same.

 

[Keiw1]

The Father is Spirit and is EVERYWHERE. Think of it this way, 1 Corinthians 2:16 says that those (who are born again of the Spirit) have the mind of Christ. I've explained that in the Godhead, the Father is the mind. That is why Jesus had the mind of the Father, even though size wise, the Father reached heaven. Also, the born again have the seed of the Father. They are one and the same.

The mind of Christ= The Father is greater than i.

 

[DavidTree]

Only to the Jehovah Witnesses.....

There are several Trinitarian Christian groups and denominations do use (or have used) the name "Jehovah" to refer to God, even though this is far more characteristic of Jehovah's Witnesses (who are non-Trinitarian and emphasize it as God's exclusive personal name).

The form "Jehovah" is an older English vocalization of the Hebrew Tetragrammaton (YHWH/YHVH), which appears thousands of times in the Old Testament. Most mainstream Trinitarian Christians prefer "Yahweh" in scholarly contexts or simply "LORD" (following Jewish tradition of not pronouncing the name), but "Jehovah" still appears in various Trinitarian settings:

In Older Bible translations used by Trinitarians: The King James Version (1611) renders it as "Jehovah" in a few places (e.g., Psalm 83:18, Exodus 6:3). Many historic Protestant Trinitarian churches used these Bibles and thus referred to God as Jehovah in hymns, prayers, and writings.

In Trinitarian Bible Society: This organization (explicitly Trinitarian) strongly defends "Jehovah" as a valid and accurate form of God's name, promoting its use in their literature and Bible editions.

In Some Pentecostal and evangelical churches: Groups like certain Assemblies of God congregations have historically used "Jehovah" in worship songs (e.g., "Jehovah Jireh," "Jehovah Nissi") and teaching, while fully affirming the Trinity.

InHymns and worship: Trinitarian Christians across denominations (Baptist, Methodist, Presbyterian, etc.) have sung hymns containing "Jehovah" for centuries, such as "Guide Me, O Thou Great Jehovah."

YHWH YAHshua HaMashiach = LORD Jesus Christ

 

[DavidTree]

The mind of Christ= The Father is greater than i.

Of course the FATHER was greater then JESUS when He walked this earth as a man = Philippians 2:5-11

Let this mind be in you which was also in Christ Jesus, who, being in the form of God, did not consider it robbery to be equal with God, but made Himself of no reputation, taking the form of a bondservant, and coming in the likeness of men. And being found in appearance as a man, He humbled Himself and became obedient to the point of death, even the death of the cross. Therefore God also has highly exalted Him and given Him the name which is above every name, that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of those in heaven, and of those on earth, and of those under the earth, and that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

 

[DavidTree]

Before Abraham = The WORD was Elohim from Eternity

 

[Keiw1]

Of course the FATHER was greater then JESUS when He walked this earth as a man = Philippians 2:5-11

Let this mind be in you which was also in Christ Jesus, who, being in the form of God, did not consider it https://biblehub.com/nkjv/philippians/2.htm#footnotesrobbery to be equal with God, but made Himself of no reputation, taking the form of a bondservant, and coming in the likeness of men. And being found in appearance as a man, He humbled Himself and became obedient to the point of death, even the death of the cross. Therefore God also has highly exalted Him and given Him the name which is above every name, that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of those in heaven, and of those on earth, and of those under the earth, and that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

1 Cor 15:24-28--Jesus must hand back the kingdom to his God and Father and subject himself. ---God is in subjection to no one.

 

[DavidTree]

1 Cor 15:24-28--Jesus must hand back the kingdom to his God and Father and subject himself. ---God is in subjection to no one.

And what happens to CHRIST???

Do you know?

 

[TibiasDad]

It as well says-It was accomplished-THROUGH him. That means 100% another did it.

That’s not what is means, and I have shown that to you. “dia”, through, is defined as ‘the means through/by which something happens’.

The Word is the means of creation being created. God is the means through/by which the “heavens and the earth” are created in Genesis.

So if the Word is the means through which all that has been made was made, then the Word has to be the God who created the heavens and the earth.

Doug

 

[TibiasDad]

The Word and satan both called Theos--Thus translate the same in this scenario

Satan is called ἐν οἷς ὁ θεὸς τοῦ αἰῶνος, “the God (ὁ θεὸς, ho Theos) of this world” because the world is obedient to Satan’s commands.


Doug

 

[charismaticlady]

The mind of Christ= The Father is greater than i.

Yes, just as our mind is greater than our body.

 

[DavidTree]

Yes, just as our mind is greater than our body.

In fact, this is True!

 

[TibiasDad]

John 1:1--2Cor 4:4--The only 2 spots in NT where 2 are called God and god. Both spots, the true God called Ho Theos--The Word and satan both called Theos--Thus translate the same in this scenario--Ho Theos= The God--Theos = god.

• John 1:1: "the Word was God".
• John 20:28: Thomas declares, "My Lord and my God!".
• Titus 2:13: "our great God and Saviour, Jesus Christ".
• 2 Peter 1:1: "our God and Saviour, Jesus Christ".
• Hebrews 1:8: "But about the Son he says, 'Your throne, O God, will last forever'".
• Romans 9:5: "Christ, who is God over all, praised forever".

Doug