Who is the creator

[Jim]

No i am not--And we are in him( God who is true=1 being-- In HIS( the one God who is true) son Jesus Christ--simple English--- There is God and there is his son= 2 different beings. There is only 1 God= he who is true.

Clearly your are confused about the divinity of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit and confused about who God is.

 

[Keiw1]

Clearly your are confused about the divinity of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit and confused about who God is.

Not confused at all. Catholicism added the holy spirit to a godhead in 381 ce at the council of Constantinople. No trinity was taught or served prior to that recorded history fact. No trinity exists, Catholicism created it. Israel NEVER served the true God as a trinity=recorded history fact.
Your problem is the error of a capitol G God to the Word at John 1:1 translated in by Catholicism-a god is correct-at minimum in history 20 translations by unbias Greek scholars put a god at John 1:1 because its correct.
Was Paul confused-1Cor 8:6--There is ONE God to all=the Father.

 

[DavidTree]

Many are being mislead by Gen 1:26 false reasoning= Let US make man in our image--Us and our=We.
Gen 1:27= HE( not we) created--Prov 8:27-28= HE( not we created)--Isaiah 44:24-created by myself---myself = 1, not 2
So what is truth of who the us =
Jehovah( HE) and his master worker( Prov 8:30)= the one who was beside God during creation process, the one whom God grew especially fond of= his son, Jesus.
John 1:3,, Col 1:16--Things were created-THROUGH Jesus= another created it all= HE= Jehovah. By myself= the only one with the power and wisdom to create.
Jesus tells all he was created at Prov 8:22-The Hebrew word translated possessed means created.= The firstborn of all creation( Col 1:15)
Trinity bible scholars( religions) CANNOT teach truth on these facts because it exposes them as false.
All creation occurred at the beginning. Will you believe bible facts?

ELOHIM is PLURAL and literally means gods

Genesis 1:26 is CORRECT = Let Us make man in Our image according to Our likeness = 3x Spoken

Genesis 1:27 is also CORRECT = Elohim created man in His own image, in the image of Elohim He created him; male and female He created them. = 3x Spoken again, same as v26 = for everything God says is TRUTH

 

[DavidTree]

No i am not--And we are in him( God who is true=1 being-- In HIS( the one God who is true) son Jesus Christ--simple English--- There is God and there is his son= 2 different beings. There is only 1 God= he who is true.

And this is the testimony: that God has given us eternal life, and this life is in His Son.
He who has the Son has life; he who does not have the Son of God does not have life.

What does this mean to you???

 

[Jim]

Not confused at all. Catholicism added the holy spirit to a godhead in 381 ce at the council of Constantinople. No trinity was taught or served prior to that recorded history fact. No trinity exists, Catholicism created it. Israel NEVER served the true God as a trinity=recorded history fact.
Your problem is the error of a capitol G God to the Word at John 1:1 translated in by Catholicism-a god is correct-at minimum in history 20 translations by unbias Greek scholars put a god at John 1:1 because its correct.
Was Paul confused-1Cor 8:6--There is ONE God to all=the Father.

The trinity is clearly present in the NT. It existed in the OT, but that is revealed in the NT. None of that has anything to do with Catholicism. You knowledge of the Holy Spirit is seriously challanged.

 

[Keiw1]

ELOHIM is PLURAL and literally means gods

Genesis 1:26 is CORRECT = Let Us make man in Our image according to Our likeness = 3x Spoken

Genesis 1:27 is also CORRECT = Elohim created man in His own image, in the image of Elohim He created him; male and female He created them. = 3x Spoken again, same as v26 = for everything God says is TRUTH

You better look--Elohim translates-the supreme one in the Hebrew language for the true God=nothing plural about it for the true God.
Stop twisting things--HE= 1 single being= by myself

 

[Keiw1]

And this is the testimony: that God has given us eternal life, and this life is in His Son.
He who has the Son has life; he who does not have the Son of God does not have life.

What does this mean to you???

All who have the son serve YHVH(Jehovah) his Father just as he does.

 

[Keiw1]

The trinity is clearly present in the NT. It existed in the OT, but that is revealed in the NT. None of that has anything to do with Catholicism. You knowledge of the Holy Spirit is seriously challanged.

All protestant translations came out of Catholicism translating for the NT=The Latin Vulgate--Codex Sinacticus--very few older minor fragments existed when the protestants translated. Catholicism translating is altered( removal of Gods name) and filled with errors to fit false council teachings.

 

[DavidTree]

You better look--Elohim translates-the supreme one in the Hebrew language for the true God=nothing plural about it for the true God.
Stop twisting things--HE= 1 single being= by myself

There are 3 'He' to Elohim

HE the FATHER
HE the SON
HE the Holy Spirit

 

[DavidTree]

All who have the son serve YHVH(Jehovah) his Father just as he does.

The word 'serve' is not in this passage and is therefore null and void in attempting to apply.

 

[Keiw1]

There are 3 'He' to Elohim

HE the FATHER
HE the SON
HE the Holy Spirit

That would make 3 Gods. He = 1 being, not 3 we or us would = 3.

 

[Keiw1]

The word 'serve' is not in this passage and is therefore null and void in attempting to apply.

All with bible intelligence knows a true follower, follows in Jesus footsteps as best they can. Jesus serves his God and Father=YHVH(Jehovah) thus so do the true followers just as Jesus taught-John 4:22-24

 

[DavidTree]

That would make 3 Gods. He = 1 being, not 3 we or us would = 3.

Genesis declares that Elohim is THREE and the THREE are Echad/One

Genesis 1:26 - And Elohim(plural) said "Let Us make man in Our image according to Our Likeness"

Echad(One) agrees with the plurality of Elohim.

Echad includes that a plurality can be as 'One' = Genesis declares this when God made Adam and Eve

And He answered and said to them, “Have you not read that He who made them at the beginning ‘made them male and female,’ and said, ‘For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh’?
So then, they are no longer two but one flesh.
Therefore what God has joined together, let not man separate.” - Matt 19:6

 

[DavidTree]

All with bible intelligence knows a true follower, follows in Jesus footsteps as best they can. Jesus serves his God and Father=YHVH(Jehovah) thus so do the true followers just as Jesus taught-John 4:22-24

Let's not divert away from 1 John 5:12

"He who has the Son has Life; he who does not have the Son of God does not have Life."

What does this mean???

 

[Jim]

That would make 3 Gods. He = 1 being, not 3 we or us would = 3.

God is the Father, Son and Holy Spirit. Three but one.

 

[Keiw1]

Genesis declares that Elohim is THREE and the THREE are Echad/One

Genesis 1:26 - And Elohim(plural) said "Let Us make man in Our image according to Our Likeness"

Echad(One) agrees with the plurality of Elohim.

Echad includes that a plurality can be as 'One' = Genesis declares this when God made Adam and Eve

And He answered and said to them, “Have you not read that He who made them at the beginning ‘made them male and female,’ and said, ‘For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh’?
So then, they are no longer two but one flesh.
Therefore what God has joined together, let not man separate.” - Matt 19:6

Genesis NEVER says the such. Twisting to fit a false trinity god teaching makes it say that.

I showed you-HE created not an us. Again you are twisting what was said.

 

[Keiw1]

Let's not divert away from 1 John 5:12

"He who has the Son has Life; he who does not have the Son of God does not have Life."

What does this mean???

It speaks about the real Jesus=Gods son, not God.

 

[Keiw1]

God is the Father, Son and Holy Spirit. Three but one.

That would make Jesus and Paul liars if your words are truth' John 17:3-Jesus teaches= The one who sent him= Father= is THE ONLY TRUE GOD
Paul at 1 Cor 8:6= telling all who God is, only names the Father.

 

[Jim]

That would make Jesus and Paul liars if your words are truth' John 17:3-Jesus teaches= The one who sent him= Father= is THE ONLY TRUE GOD
Paul at 1 Cor 8:6= telling all who God is, only names the Father.

There is no contraction in that.

 

[DavidTree]

It speaks about the real Jesus=Gods son, not God.

Let us SEE if God is mentioned in this passage = 1 John 5:9-13

If we receive the witness of men, the witness of God is greater;
for this is the witness of God which He has testified of His Son.
He who believes in the Son of God has the witness in himself; he who does not believe God has made Him a liar, because he has not believed the testimony that God has given of His Son.
And this is the testimony: that God has given us eternal life, and this life is in His Son.
He who has the Son has life; he who does not have the Son of God does not have life.
These things I have written to you who believe in the name of the Son of God, that you may know that you have eternal life, and that you may continue to believe in the name of the Son of God.

You claim to be a jehovah witness and yet you deny the witness of God.

The Witness of God is His Son = and everything His Son has Spoken

Denying the words of the LORD means denying the witness of GOD = which makes a person a false witness.