What's Wrong with Calvinism?

[TomL]

Who does the choosing in verse 4?

The choosing is that those who are in Christ would be holy and blameless before God in love

God chose those in Christ to be holy and blameless

 

[Presby02]

The choosing is that those who are in Christ would be holy and blameless before God in love

God chose those in Christ to be holy and blameless

Agreed. Nothing about would be in Christ. The only one doing the choosing in verse 4 is God.

 

[TomL]

It does not say "would be in". Nice try. Ot to mention God is the only choice mentioned in the text. Inserting words where they dont belong is not sound exegesis.

Newsflash: Unborn beings/unbelievers are not in Christ.


2 Corinthians 5:17 (LEB) — 17 Therefore if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation; the old things have passed away; behold, new things have come.

How can one unborn be a new creation or born again

Romans 6:3–4 (LEB) — 3 Or do you not know that as many as were baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into his death? 4 Therefore we have been buried with him through baptism into death, in order that just as Christ was raised from the dead through the glory of the Father, so also we may live a new way of life.

being in Christ is a new way of life

Philippians 3:9 (LEB) — 9 and may be found in him, not having my righteousness which is from the law, but which is through faith in Christ, the righteousness from God on the basis of faith,

One in Christ has righteousness and faith

certainly not describing the unborn

Your failure to understand that the passage is addressing those in Christ and what God would do with such leads you reject much scripture.

 

[TomL]

Agreed. Nothing about would be in Christ. The only one doing the choosing in verse 4 is God.

You fail to see the passage is addressing those who are in Christ

The verse states God chose that they would be holy and blameless before him in love and predestined us to adoption

They (we) and the US would be those in Christ

That is the choice of God.

You just cannot ignore multiple verses that show faith precedes regeneration and life

 

[civic]

Sorry, no one is in Christ from the foundation of the earth

Philippians 3:9 (LEB) — 9 and may be found in him, not having my righteousness which is from the law, but which is through faith in Christ, the righteousness from God on the basis of faith,

Gal 3:26–28For you are all sons of God through faith in Christ Jesus, for as many of you as were baptized into Christ have put on Christ. There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is neither male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus.

Without faith in Christ one is not in Christ

Amen another false claim from the reformed camp

 

[civic]

Newsflash: Unborn beings/unbelievers are not in Christ.


2 Corinthians 5:17 (LEB) — 17 Therefore if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation; the old things have passed away; behold, new things have come.

How can one unborn be a new creation or born again

Romans 6:3–4 (LEB) — 3 Or do you not know that as many as were baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into his death? 4 Therefore we have been buried with him through baptism into death, in order that just as Christ was raised from the dead through the glory of the Father, so also we may live a new way of life.

being in Christ is a new way of life

Philippians 3:9 (LEB) — 9 and may be found in him, not having my righteousness which is from the law, but which is through faith in Christ, the righteousness from God on the basis of faith,

One in Christ has righteousness and faith

certainly not describing the unborn

Your failure to understand that the passage is addressing those in Christ and what God would do with such leads you reject much scripture.

Ditto they are all children of wrath as Paul says in Ephesians 2