Acts 10:44-45- Holy spirit poured out on the people of the nations.
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but do you accept all the words of God or just those you can use to further your gentile hatred
Romans 2:14–16 (ESV) — 14 For when Gentiles, who do not have the law, by nature do what the law requires, they are a law to themselves, even though they do not have the law. 15 They show that the work of the law is written on their hearts, while their conscience also bears witness, and their conflicting thoughts accuse or even excuse them 16 on that day when, according to my gospel, God judges the secrets of men by Christ Jesus.
BTW you skipped over this
Galatians 3:25–29 (ESV) — 25 But now that faith has come, we are no longer under a guardian, 26 for in Christ Jesus you are all sons of God, through faith. 27 For as many of you as were baptized into Christ have put on Christ. 28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is no male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus. 29 And if you are Christ’s, then you are Abraham’s offspring, heirs according to promise.
jeremiah1five
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Here is your Scripture.
44 While Peter yet spake these words, the Holy Ghost fell on all them which heard the word.
45 And they of the circumcision which believed were astonished, as many as came with Peter, because that on the Gentiles also was poured out the gift of the Holy Ghost. Acts 10:44–45.
This event occurred in the house of Cornelius, a centurion of the Italian "band", one that feared God, was devout, and prayed to God always and gave alms to the people.
1 There was a certain man in Caesarea called Cornelius, a centurion of the band called the Italian band,
2 A devout man, and one that feared God with all his house, which gave much alms to the people, and prayed to God alway. Acts 10:1–2.
Do you know ANYTHING about God-Fearers? These were persons who were everything to God's Torah in obedience and service. God-Fearers were one step short of full commitment to Israel and God's Torah, meaning that, while devoted to Israel and to God in obedience and observance to God's Torah and allied with Israel, they were short of full commitment in that they did everything required under the Law except circumcision. God-Fearers, as with Cornelius, raised their families according to the Law of Moses, so, as a "wild" Olive tree why wouldn't they be saved by God having blessed Israel in accordance with Genesis 12:1-3 and receive the blessings of Abraham while not being in covenant with Abraham because Gentiles are not the seed of Abraham. But you mislead others in your comment that the Holy Spirit is given to the "nations" as you said above. The Holy Spirit was poured out on Cornelius and and his household - whatever number was there, but NOT on the "nations" as you incorrectly say. It was ONE family, and a family already in relationship with God as Cornelius was. And it says he was baptized in Jesus' Name which is significant.
So, NO, the Holy Spirit of Promise was not "poured out on the nations," but on one Gentile family that was allied with Israel, committed to obedience to God's Torah, was in relationship with God and God blessed him and his family because they blessed Israel and were also already committed to God.
So, take your false Gentile biased doctrine that seeks to include Gentiles as a race into the Hebrew covenants because your interpretation is just plain false.
The Holy Spirit was Promised to Israel. There is NO SCRIPTURE that says the Holy Spirit was ever promised to Gentiles. You teach false doctrine by trying to pass that off as bible when it is not. Despicable. But it's also typical and predictable. What a shame.
Yes the first event a gentile got holy spirit--every true follower of Christ can ask for holy spirit, regardless of race, country of origin, etc. Not allied with Israel, allied with Gods chosen. Its not literal Israel today, to this day they reject the Messiah, God is not with them.
jeremiah1five
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And who is that?
Excuse me but the Holy Spirit is called by Peter in Acts 2 the Holy Spirit of Promise because He was Promised to the children of Israel. If you are seed of Abraham, you can ask for the Holy Spirit just as Jesus said, but He said it to Jews, not Gentiles and Jesus would not break Scripture and say Gentiles can ask for the Holy Spirit promised to Israel and receive Him.
No, allied with Israel, like proselytes and God-Fearers.
I suppose the eternal covenant God made with Abraham and his seed is a lie?
7 And I will establish my covenant between me and thee and thy seed after thee in their generations for an everlasting covenant, to be a God unto thee, and to thy seed after thee. Gen. 17:7.
No, God didn't lie. God is faithful to His promises. And His promises are to Abraham and his seed all the way to today. It is after all an everlasting covenant. This means forever.
The Father does what the Son prays because the Son prays the Father's will. When Jesus said from the cross, "Father, forgive them for the know not what they do" the Father forgave them. He forgave Israel. That's who Christ came ro redeem. He came to redeem those under the Law.
4 But when the fulness of the time was come, God sent forth his Son, made of a woman, made under the law,
5 To redeem them that were under the law, that we might receive the adoption of sons. Gal. 4:4–5.
Case closed. Redemption has come to the House of Israel and Judah and all Israel is saved.
You best believe Jesus-Matt 23:38-39
jeremiah1five
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38 Behold, your house is left unto you desolate.
39 For I say unto you, Ye shall not see me henceforth, till ye shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord. Mt 23:37–39.
The reason why "their house/Temple is left desolate" is because Christ is not in it. But He will be.
And since Jesus Christ did show Himself from His birth onward even after His resurrection it can be deduced that the people did say, Blessed is He that cometh in the Name of the Lord sometime while Christ was on earth. They said it with palm leaves when He entered Jerusalem the last week of His life on earth in that past dispensation. If He was seen by the people, then they most likely said "it."
jeremiah1five
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God's love is directed to the children of Israel. They are His Betrothed, they are His Bride, they are His Elect, they are His Church. They are His Chosen people.
6 For thou art an holy people unto the LORD thy God: the LORD thy God hath chosen thee to be a special people unto himself, above all people that are upon the face of the earth.
7 The LORD did not set his love upon you, nor choose you, because ye were more in number than any people; for ye were the fewest of all people:
8 But because the LORD loved you, and because he would keep the oath which he had sworn unto your fathers, hath the LORD brought you out with a mighty hand, and redeemed you out of the house of bondmen, from the hand of Pharaoh king of Egypt.
9 Know therefore that the LORD thy God, he is God, the faithful God, which keepeth covenant and mercy with them that love him and keep his commandments to a thousand generations;
Deut. 7:6–9.
The whole of the bible is God dealing with the Hebrew people. This is inescapable. All 66 books of the bible is written by Jews and Jewish Christians TO and FOR Jews and Jewish Christians. Israel is God's Chosen people and God has only ONE love. Israel.
