What do JW's Believe ?

[koberstein]

You must of missed Gods view of a cult, the only view that counts= A house divided( hundreds of trinity religions= a mass of confusion) will not stand. You see they fail this true mark 100%=1Cor 1:10= Unity of thought( all of Gods 1 truth) no division. I know 10 year olds who can understand no division, but hundreds of religions claiming to belong to Jesus cannot-Why? Its those religions calling the 1 religion that passes 1 Cor 1:10-100%-- Most listen to these-2Cor 11:12-15)

No I have not. I can spot a vile cult group like the JW's a mile away. Are you part of this nutjob JW cult group?
Is your last name Koresh? Cult groups like to appear that they are part of main stream Christianity, but they
absolutely are not! They deny the orthodox fundamentals of the true and lasting faith through Yeshua and Adonai our Father.
All cults like the JW's are man-made, and we all know where that leads.
Shalom

 

[Keiw1]

Do you have an aversion to dealing with Matt 24 that you cited in support of your argument about Rev 6:2.


Doug

The birth of Gods kingdom=Rev 6:2, when Jesus came=the presence.( Matt 24:27) He sat on his throne in heaven.

 

[Keiw1]

No I have not. I can spot a vile cult group like the JW's a mile away. Are you part of this nutjob JW cult group?
Is your last name Koresh? Cult groups like to appear that they are part of main stream Christianity, but they
absolutely are not! They deny the orthodox fundamentals of the true and lasting faith through Yeshua and Adonai our Father.
All cults like the JW's are man-made, and we all know where that leads.
Shalom

Everyone on earth who has studied Jesus teachings carefully, can easily see that in EVERY translation on Gods earth Jesus' teachings back the JW teachers. You should learn them properly. Here is an important one all true followers know by heart already and apply daily--Matt 6:33--Keep on seeking-FIRST the kingdom and his( Jehovah) righteousness and all these things will be added( sustenance, covering, spirituality)--So tell us, how many days of your existence that God gave you for free did your heart instruct your mind to do Matt 6:33 daily because you carefully studied Jesus?Because if one is not doing exactly that, its impossible for them to do this=John 4:22-24--You have listened to these( 2 Cor 11:12-15) through them satan blinds minds ( 2Cor 4:4)-- thus those who listen to those know little of what Jesus teaches and cannot obey, thus will lose.

 

[koberstein]

Everyone on earth who has studied Jesus teachings carefully, can easily see that in EVERY translation on Gods earth Jesus' teachings back the JW teachers. You should learn them properly. Here is an important one all true followers know by heart already and apply daily--Matt 6:33--Keep on seeking-FIRST the kingdom and his( Jehovah) righteousness and all these things will be added( sustenance, covering, spirituality)--So tell us, how many days of your existence that God gave you for free did your heart instruct your mind to do Matt 6:33 daily because you carefully studied Jesus?Because if one is not doing exactly that, its impossible for them to do this=John 4:22-24--You have listened to these( 2 Cor 11:12-15) through them satan blinds minds ( 2Cor 4:4)-- thus those who listen to those know little of what Jesus teaches and cannot obey, thus will lose.

Nobody including Yeshua Hamashiach backs the false teachings of nutjob cult groups like the JWs, Mormans and etc. These evil cults are masters of deception and distorting Scripture. They are like their father Satan who seeks to deceive and destroy. Being a Messianic Jew I know the Scriptures; the Tanakh and the B'rit Hadashah well. You need to change your cult group from JW to SW (Satan Witnesses). You will be able to live up to your name more clearly.

 

[TibiasDad]

The birth of Gods kingdom=Rev 6:2, when Jesus came=the presence.( Matt 24:27) He sat on his throne in heaven.

So the answer to my question is “yes”, you have an aversion to Matt 24.

παρουσία always has the implication of actual physical presence. It carries the concept of a king coming to his people to see them, to be with them.

It is found 15 times in scripture, and every time it refers to literal, physical presence. Your own citation of Phil 2:12 proves this where Paul contrasts the Philippians’ obedience when Paul was in Phillipi and their behavior when he was somewhere else and away from them.

Doug

 

[Keiw1]

Nobody including Yeshua Hamashiach backs the false teachings of nutjob cult groups like the JWs, Mormans and etc. These evil cults are masters of deception and distorting Scripture. They are like their father Satan who seeks to deceive and destroy. Being a Messianic Jew I know the Scriptures; the Tanakh and the B'rit Hadashah well. You need to change your cult group from JW to SW (Satan Witnesses). You will be able to live up to your name more clearly.

I just showed you Matt 6:33--no trinity religion teaches their flock to do it. See you are blind. You outright refuse to believe Jesus= very sad for you.

 

[Keiw1]

So the answer to my question is “yes”, you have an aversion to Matt 24.

παρουσία always has the implication of actual physical presence. It carries the concept of a king coming to his people to see them, to be with them.

It is found 15 times in scripture, and every time it refers to literal, physical presence. Your own citation of Phil 2:12 proves this where Paul contrasts the Philippians’ obedience when Paul was in Phillipi and their behavior when he was somewhere else and away from them.

Doug

All true followers saw it occur. Jesus comes to the earth at Rev 19:11= way past the event of Rev 6:2

 

[koberstein]

I just showed you Matt 6:33--no trinity religion teaches their flock to do it. See you are blind. You outright refuse to believe Jesus= very sad for you.

You haven't shown me anything. My eyes are wide open about your false cult and other cults. Fact of the matter is the JW's are a well known false cult. Something to be avoided at all costs. So your cult is a one verse false religion. No surprise there.

 

[koberstein]

I just showed you Matt 6:33--no trinity religion teaches their flock to do it. See you are blind. You outright refuse to believe Jesus= very sad for you.

So what is so special about Mattityahu 6:33?
Mattityahu 6:31-34
"So don't be anxious, asking, 'What will we eat?' 'What will we drink?' or 'How will we be clothed?' For it is the pagans who set their hearts on all these things. Your heavenly Father knows you need them all. But seek first his Kingdom and his righteousness, and all these things will be given to you as well. Don't worry about tomorrow----tomorrow will worry about itself! Today has enough troubles already!
Messianic Jewish Version

2 Timothy 3:16-17
All Scripture is God-breathed and is valuable for teaching the truth, convicting of sin, correcting faults and training in right living; thus anyone who belongs to God nay be fully equipped for every good work.
Messianic Jewish Version
Shalom

 

[Keiw1]

You haven't shown me anything. My eyes are wide open about your false cult and other cults. Fact of the matter is the JW's are a well known false cult. Something to be avoided at all costs. So your cult is a one verse false religion. No surprise there.

Called a cult by the house divided that will not stand that is the real cult in Gods view.

 

[Keiw1]

So what is so special about Mattityahu 6:33?
Mattityahu 6:31-34
"So don't be anxious, asking, 'What will we eat?' 'What will we drink?' or 'How will we be clothed?' For it is the pagans who set their hearts on all these things. Your heavenly Father knows you need them all. But seek first his Kingdom and his righteousness, and all these things will be given to you as well. Don't worry about tomorrow----tomorrow will worry about itself! Today has enough troubles already!
Messianic Jewish Version

2 Timothy 3:16-17
All Scripture is God-breathed and is valuable for teaching the truth, convicting of sin, correcting faults and training in right living; thus anyone who belongs to God nay be fully equipped for every good work.
Messianic Jewish Version
Shalom

6:33- seek His( Jehovah) righteousness first--the false religions teach to seek Jesus' righteousness first because they do not listen to Jesus.

 

[koberstein]

6:33- seek His( Jehovah) righteousness first--the false religions teach to seek Jesus' righteousness first because they do not listen to Jesus.

You are definitely in a cult. The false religion is the one you are currently in.

 

[koberstein]

Called a cult by the house divided that will not stand that is the real cult in Gods view.

There is no house divided. Your cult group JWs distorts and discredits Scripture. Your cult group is nothing but noise in Messianic and Christianity Orthodoxy. Noise we ignore.

 

[TibiasDad]

All true followers saw it occur.

Saw what occur? Were you there in 1914? And how do you see an invisible “presence”?

Jesus comes to the earth at Rev 19:11= way past the event of Rev 6:2

I’m not asking about Revelation at this point, I am asking about Matt 24; a question you keep avoiding. Your argument has no foundation when the proof texts you cite fail to provide any proof, in fact they preclude your argument for an invisible “presence”. This is true of both Matthew 24:42 and Phil 2:12, both of which you cited as proof of your claim.


Doug

 

[koberstein]

Saw what occur? Were you there in 1914? And how do you see an invisible “presence”?



I’m not asking about Revelation at this point, I am asking about Matt 24; a question you keep avoiding. Your argument has no foundation when the proof texts you cite fail to provide any proof, in fact they preclude your argument for an invisible “presence”. This is true of both Matthew 24:42 and Phil 2:12, both of which you cited as proof of your claim.


Doug

All true followers saw it occur. Jesus comes to the earth at Rev 19:11= way past the event of Rev 6:2

Tired of the false cult indoctrination and the heresy it brings. It is a well known fact that JWs are a vile from hell cult. I will happily put you on ignore. Not wasting my time or casting my pearls before swine.
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[Keiw1]

You are definitely in a cult. The false religion is the one you are currently in.

You will find out different. Its 100% undeniable facts-Israel served a single being God while serving the true God=YHVH(Jehovah)--As well No trinity God was ever served by a true follower of God. recorded fact of history= Catholicism in 381 ce added the holy spirit to a godhead at the council of Constantinople. Added to what they call Christian life at that point in time. Catholicism is the foretold great apostasy( 2Thess 2:3), protestants tried to fix things but fixed very little. You best look into the facts of history. God commanded you--Be like the Bereans and make sure of all things.

 

[Keiw1]

There is no house divided. Your cult group JWs distorts and discredits Scripture. Your cult group is nothing but noise in Messianic and Christianity Orthodoxy. Noise we ignore.

hundreds of different trinity religions with hundreds of different truths on matters= a mass of confusion. All creation can see that fact.

 

[Keiw1]

Saw what occur? Were you there in 1914? And how do you see an invisible “presence”?



I’m not asking about Revelation at this point, I am asking about Matt 24; a question you keep avoiding. Your argument has no foundation when the proof texts you cite fail to provide any proof, in fact they preclude your argument for an invisible “presence”. This is true of both Matthew 24:42 and Phil 2:12, both of which you cited as proof of your claim.


Doug

Its only invisible to those in darkness.

 

[Keiw1]

Tired of the false cult indoctrination and the heresy it brings. It is a well known fact that JWs are a vile from hell cult. I will happily put you on ignore. Not wasting my time or casting my pearls before swine.
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you are blinded-2Cor 4:4--your religionssssssssssssssss=2Cor 11:12-15--God is about to show the world that fact. You best relook sir.

 

[TibiasDad]

Its only invisible to those in darkness.

Enlighten me by showing me exegetically how Matthew 24 doesn’t mean physical coming.

Doug