Truth about the resurrection

[Jay]

Agreed we should not judge a person and his Maker- but we can judge their doctrines if they are true or false. in fact the Bible instructs us to judge the teachings to see if they are true.

The Bodily Resurrection of Jesus and the saints is one of those fundamental doctrines we can test ones belief since its at the very heart of the Gospel as Paul outlines in 1 Corinthians 15- We know the Resurrection body is physical, material, tangible, glorified, incorruptible, immortal just like our Lords.

What does it mean that you will know them by their fruit in Matthew 7:16?​

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What does it mean that you will know them by their fruit? What is the meaning of Matthew 7:16? How can I recognize false teachers by their fruit?

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What does it mean that you will know them by their fruit in Matthew 7:16?​

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What does it mean that you will know them by their fruit? What is the meaning of Matthew 7:16? How can I recognize false teachers by their fruit?

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Yes fruit inspecting is biblical.

 

[Keiw1]

And the Jehovah Witnesses are high on that list for they do not know Christ. They make him Michael, the arch Angel who became a man and Michael did not exist. At the resurrection he became Michael again and Christ did not exist as other than Michael

From where do Jehovah's Witnesses derive the doctrine that Jesus was and now is Michael the Archangel?​

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According to some Watchtower literature, it is taught that Michael the Archangel is Jesus and that Jesus, after He ascended into heaven, resumed the name of Michael.

From where do Jehovah's Witnesses derive the doctrine that Jesus was and now is Michael the Archangel?

According to some Watchtower literature, it is taught that Michael the Archangel is Jesus and that Jesus, after He ascended into heaven, resumed the name of Michael. "It proves Michael the archa...

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He is Michael. Its Jesus standing up here in these last days for Gods chosen-Dan 12:1--as Gods appointed king.

 

[Keiw1]

I can't speak for other people and their relationship with God. In fact The Bible teaches us not to do that. It tells us in Romans 14:4 Who are you to judge the servant of another? To his own master he stands or falls; and he will stand, for the Lord is able to make him stand. You cannot judge another person's servant. The master decides if the servant is doing well or not. And the Lord's servant will do well because the Lord helps him do well.

Jesus said--FEW will find the road that leads off into life. The bible speaks of the real Jesus. There are 4 different ones being taught on earth.

 

[TomL]

He is Michael. Its Jesus standing up here in these last days for Gods chosen-Dan 12:1--as Gods appointed king.

Sorry Michael could not rebuke Satan but jesus did

Jude 9 (KJV 1900) — 9 Yet Michael the archangel, when contending with the devil he disputed about the body of Moses, durst not bring against him a railing accusation, but said, The Lord rebuke thee.

 

[Keiw1]

Sorry Michael could not rebuke Satan but jesus did

Jude 9 (KJV 1900) — 9 Yet Michael the archangel, when contending with the devil he disputed about the body of Moses, durst not bring against him a railing accusation, but said, The Lord rebuke thee.

It wasn't time for him to rebuke satan at that point. But you seem to miss that in the war of heaven Michael kicks satans butt and casts them out of heaven to earth-Only Jesus has that right. That is the bruising of satans head foretold for Jesus to do , yet Michael did. Why? Because Michael is Jesus.

 

[TomL]

It wasn't time for him to rebuke satan at that point. But you seem to miss that in the war of heaven Michael kicks satans butt and casts them out of heaven to earth-Only Jesus has that right. That is the bruising of satans head foretold for Jesus to do , yet Michael did. Why? Because Michael is Jesus.

He dare not do it

But Jesus did

Michael was created but Jesus created all thing and nothing was created without him

Thus he could not be a created being

(NWT)Joh 1:3 All things came into existence through him, and apart from him not even one thing came into existence. What has come into existence

As even your scriptures show

anothert fail

 

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I can't speak for other people and their relationship with God. In fact The Bible teaches us not to do that. It tells us in Romans 14:4 Who are you to judge the servant of another? To his own master he stands or falls; and he will stand, for the Lord is able to make him stand. You cannot judge another person's servant. The master decides if the servant is doing well or not. And the Lord's servant will do well because the Lord helps him do well.

'Nevertheless the foundation of God standeth sure,
having this seal,
The Lord knoweth them that are His.
And, Let every one that nameth the name of Christ
depart from iniquity.'
(2Tim 2:19)

Praise God!

 

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He dare not do it

But Jesus did

Michael was created but Jesus created all thing and nothing was created without him

Thus he could not be a created being

(NWT)Joh 1:3 All things came into existence through him, and apart from him not even one thing came into existence. What has come into existence

As even your scriptures show

anothert fail

'Yet Michael the archangel,
when contending with the devil
he disputed about the body of Moses,
durst not bring against him a railing accusation,
but said, "The Lord rebuke thee."

Hello @TomL

Yes, Christ Jesus our risen Lord, the Lord Jesus Christ, was begotten and not made.

'Thou madest Him a little lower than the angels;
thou crownedst Him with glory and honour,
and didst set Him over the works of Thy hands:
Thou hast put all things in subjection under His feet.
For in that He put all in subjection under Him,
He left nothing that is not put under Him.
But now we see not yet all things put under Him.
But we see Jesus,
Who was made a little lower than the angels
for the suffering of death,
crowned with glory and honour;
that He by the grace of God
should taste death for every man.'
(Heb 2:7-9)

Praise God!

In Christ Jesus
Chris

 

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'For many deceivers are entered into the world,
who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh.
This is a deceiver and an antichrist.
Look to yourselves,
that we lose not those things which we have wrought,
but that we receive a full reward.
Whosoever transgresseth,
and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ,
hath not God.
He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ,
he hath both the Father and the Son.
If there come any unto you,
and bring not this doctrine,
receive him not into your house,
neither bid him God speed:
For he that biddeth him God speed
is partaker of his evil deeds.'
(2 John 1:7-11)

'Wherefore when He cometh into the world, He saith,
"Sacrifice and offering Thou wouldest not,
but a body hast Thou prepared Me:
In burnt offerings and sacrifices for sin
Thou hast had no pleasure.
Then said I, "Lo, I come
(in the volume of the book it is written of Me,) (Psalm 40)
to do Thy will, O God."'
(Heb 10:5-7)

 

[TomL]

'Yet Michael the archangel,
when contending with the devil
he disputed about the body of Moses,
durst not bring against him a railing accusation,
but said, "The Lord rebuke thee."

Hello @TomL

Yes, Christ Jesus our risen Lord, the Lord Jesus Christ, was begotten and not made.

'Thou madest Him a little lower than the angels;
thou crownedst Him with glory and honour,
and didst set Him over the works of Thy hands:
Thou hast put all things in subjection under His feet.
For in that He put all in subjection under Him,
He left nothing that is not put under Him.
But now we see not yet all things put under Him.
But we see Jesus,
Who was made a little lower than the angels
for the suffering of death,
crowned with glory and honour;
that He by the grace of God
should taste death for every man.'
(Heb 2:7-9)

Praise God!

In Christ Jesus
Chris

Yep

Nothing was made without him

and all creation gives him worship

proving he is not a created being

 

[Keiw1]

He dare not do it

But Jesus did

Michael was created but Jesus created all thing and nothing was created without him

Thus he could not be a created being

(NWT)Joh 1:3 All things came into existence through him, and apart from him not even one thing came into existence. What has come into existence

As even your scriptures show

anothert fail

Your translations are erred to mislead=100% fact of life.--another 100% fact-through= another did it.

 

[TomL]

Your translations are erred to mislead=100% fact of life.--another 100% fact-through= another did it.

You failed to address the scripture

He dare not do it

But Jesus did

Michael was created but Jesus created all things and nothing was created without him

Thus he could not be a created being

(NWT)Joh 1:3 All things came into existence through him, and apart from him not even one thing came into existence. What has come into existence

As even your scriptures show

another fail

 

[Keiw1]

You failed to address the scripture

He dare not do it

But Jesus did

Michael was created but Jesus created all things and nothing was created without him

Thus he could not be a created being

(NWT)Joh 1:3 All things came into existence through him, and apart from him not even one thing came into existence. What has come into existence

As even your scriptures show

another fail

You believe errors over facts. Catholicism screwed it all up centuries ago. No protestant religion fixed much.

 

[TomL]

You believe errors over facts. Catholicism screwed it all up centuries ago. No protestant religion fixed much.

You failed to address the scriptural argument

Michael was created but Jesus created all things and nothing was created without him

Thus he could not be a created being

(NWT)Joh 1:3 All things came into existence through him, and apart from him not even one thing came into existence. What has come into existence

As even your scriptures show

 

[Keiw1]

You failed to address the scriptural argument

Michael was created but Jesus created all things and nothing was created without him

Thus he could not be a created being

(NWT)Joh 1:3 All things came into existence through him, and apart from him not even one thing came into existence. What has come into existence

As even your scriptures show

I can't get light into darkness when its error they believe over truth. I merely plant seeds, God waters them in the good hearts.

 

[TomL]

I can't get light into darkness when its error they believe over truth. I merely plant seeds, God waters them in the good hearts.

You failed to address the scriptural argument

Michael was created but Jesus created all things and nothing was created without him

Thus he could not be a created being

(NWT)Joh 1:3 All things came into existence through him, and apart from him not even one thing came into existence. What has come into existence

As even your scriptures show

 

[TibiasDad]

I can't get light into darkness when its error they believe over truth. I merely plant seeds, God waters them in the good hearts.

What part of Jn 1:3, even in the NWT, is difficult to understand?

(NWT)Joh 1:3 All things came into existence through him, and apart from him not even one thing came into existence. What has come into existence

If the Word is created, then he could not have created “all things”, which of course means “not even one thing came into existence” without him, and that stultifies the Word being a created being.

“All things” cannot be true if the Word was created. And even your translation says “all things” and “not even one thing” came into existence without the Word.


Doug

 

[Keiw1]

What part of Jn 1:3, even in the NWT, is difficult to understand?

(NWT)Joh 1:3 All things came into existence through him, and apart from him not even one thing came into existence. What has come into existence

If the Word is created, then he could not have created “all things”, which of course means “not even one thing came into existence” without him, and that stultifies the Word being a created being.

“All things” cannot be true if the Word was created. And even your translation says “all things” and “not even one thing” came into existence without the Word.


Doug

Yes what don't you understand that if something is done -THROUGH another= another actually did it--Just like Acts 2:22--God did all the powerful works-THROUGH-Jesus.

 

[TibiasDad]

Yes what don't you understand that if something is done -THROUGH another= another actually did it--Just like Acts 2:22--God did all the powerful works-THROUGH-Jesus.

You’re not dealing with the point! “All things” and “not even one thing” eliminates the possibility that was the Word was created.

“Dia”, with the genitive, as in Jn 1:3, means the Word was the instrumental means of the creation of “all things” and without his being the means, “not even one thing” was created. If the Word is created it is “a thing”, and that makes the Word to either be self-created, or that Jn 1:3 is a false statement.

And another point, “dia” with the genitive does not mean that the Word was simply being the “tool” by which God the Father
created. The Word was not the hammer by which God created. The Word was with the Father in the beginning.

The beginning is the point of creation, and the Word already was already existent with the Father; this necessarily makes him eternally existent.

Doug