Truth about the resurrection

[TibiasDad]

God uses the holy spirit like that. The same way he instructed the words to be written in his holy bible through righteous men via holy spirit.

The Holy Spirit is a person, not an impersonal force.

Doug

 

[Keiw1]

The Holy Spirit is a person, not an impersonal force.

Doug

It has no name
It sits on no throne
One doesn't have to know it to get eternal life
God doesn't share, honor, glory, amongst other things with it as he does the son.
It is never king. Yet the Father and son have all of those things.
Many super important passages mention Father and son but not the holy spirit= 0 equality whatsoever.

 

[TibiasDad]

It has no name

The Holy Spirit, or the Spirit, is his role Title, but his personal name is Yahweh!

It sits on no throne

His role is to sit on the throne of our lives; our bodies are his temple. (1Cor 6: 18-20)
God lives within us by the indwelling of the Holy Spirit.

One doesn't have to know it to get eternal life

ROM 8:6 For to set the mind on the flesh is death, but to set the mind on the Spirit is life and peace.

ROM 8:10 But if Christ is in you, although the body is dead because of sin, the Spirit is life because of righteousness.

ROM 8:
12Therefore, brothers and sisters, we have an obligation—but it is not to the flesh, to live according to it. 13For if you live according to the flesh, you will die; but if by the Spirit you put to death the misdeeds of the body, you will live.

14For those who are led by the Spirit of God are the children of God. 15The Spirit you received does not make you slaves, so that you live in fear again; rather, the Spirit you received brought about your adoption to sonship. f And by him we cry, “Abba, g Father.” 16The Spirit himself testifies with our spirit that we are God’s children. 17Now if we are children, then we are heirs—heirs of God and co-heirs with Christ, if indeed we share in his sufferings in order that we may also share in his glory.

1John 4:2 By this you know the Spirit of God: every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God…

God doesn't share, honor, glory, amongst other things with it as he does the son.

The role of the Spirit is different than that of the Father and Son, but it is no less important or divine. As alluded to above, the Spirit rules the heart of the believer in this life, wherein God is within us daily!

It is never king. Yet the Father and son have all of those things.

You are cutting your nose off despite your face with this argument, Keiw1! You deny the deity of Christ, and then turn around and deny the deity of the Spirit because he is not compared to the Father like the Son is, which equates the deity of both the Father and the Son.

Many super important passages mention Father and son but not the holy spirit= 0 equality whatsoever.

This is a logical error: the description of the Spirit in scripture is very similar to that of the Son. They are both sent from the Father. Both are given authority over our lives. We are told to follow and obey the leading/teachings of both. The believer is defined as being indwelt by both Christ and the Spirit.

In this respect, the Son and the Spirit are treated identically and are thusly equated with each other in importance.

Doug

 

[Keiw1]

The Holy Spirit, or the Spirit, is his role Title, but his personal name is Yahweh!



His role is to sit on the throne of our lives; our bodies are his temple. (1Cor 6: 18-20)
God lives within us by the indwelling of the Holy Spirit.



ROM 8:6 For to set the mind on the flesh is death, but to set the mind on the Spirit is life and peace.

ROM 8:10 But if Christ is in you, although the body is dead because of sin, the Spirit is life because of righteousness.

ROM 8:
12Therefore, brothers and sisters, we have an obligation—but it is not to the flesh, to live according to it. 13For if you live according to the flesh, you will die; but if by the Spirit you put to death the misdeeds of the body, you will live.

14For those who are led by the Spirit of God are the children of God. 15The Spirit you received does not make you slaves, so that you live in fear again; rather, the Spirit you received brought about your adoption to sonship. f And by him we cry, “Abba, g Father.” 16The Spirit himself testifies with our spirit that we are God’s children. 17Now if we are children, then we are heirs—heirs of God and co-heirs with Christ, if indeed we share in his sufferings in order that we may also share in his glory.

1John 4:2 By this you know the Spirit of God: every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God…



The role of the Spirit is different than that of the Father and Son, but it is no less important or divine. As alluded to above, the Spirit rules the heart of the believer in this life, wherein God is within us daily!



You are cutting your nose off despite your face with this argument, Keiw1! You deny the deity of Christ, and then turn around and deny the deity of the Spirit because he is not compared to the Father like the Son is, which equates the deity of both the Father and the Son.


This is a logical error: the description of the Spirit in scripture is very similar to that of the Son. They are both sent from the Father. Both are given authority over our lives. We are told to follow and obey the leading/teachings of both. The believer is defined as being indwelt by both Christ and the Spirit.

In this respect, the Son and the Spirit are treated identically and are thusly equated with each other in importance.

Doug

Thats the Fathers name--Hallowed be your(Father) name=YHWH--not our name.

 

[Tranquil]

It is not only those who believe in Christ who will experience the resurrection of their bodies. All people will be raised physically from the dead on the last day. The difference is that Christians will be raised to everlasting glory; those who will not trust in Christ will be raised to judgment.

There are many passages which teach that both believers and unbelievers will be raised. In Acts 24:15 Paul says, "There shall certainly be a resurrection of both the righteous and the wicked." John 5:28-29 says, "For an hour is coming, in which all who are in the tombs shall hear His voice, and shall come forth; those who did the good deeds to a resurrection of life, those who committed the evil deeds to a resurrection of judgment." The Scriptural teaching, then, is that for those who reject the gospel hell involves both spiritual and physical anguish: "And do not fear those who kill the body, but are unable to kill the soul; but rather fear Him who is able to destroy both soul and body in hell" (Matthew 10:28).
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Matt Perman

 

[Grace ambassador]

op: Truth about the resurrection(s)?
Q: Why stray OFF-topic? The Other topic Is Over Here: Why The Triune GodHead Is Correct!

Seems this [ back-ON ] topic will have a comprehensive reply of Two Parts?:

I. Truth About The Resurrections!
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II. "Second chance" for [ dead ] Unbelievers at their resurrection?
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I. Truth About The Resurrections!

A) All The Body Of Christ Fully raised in the pre-trib [ Mystery ] resurrection, and:

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Rightly Divided (2 Timothy 2:15 AV) From “Things That Differ!” (online):

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B) all other believers in the first ( Prophesied ) resurrection, and:

C) all Unbelievers in the Final ( Prophesied ) resurrection?:

Holy Scripture, God's Word Of Truth, Rightly Divided { brief start here... }:

God's Two Different Programs:​

1) Prophecy:

God Gave Job this prophecy about resurrection:

"For I know that my Redeemer Liveth, and that He Shall Stand at the latter day upon the​

earth: And though after my skin worms destroy this body, yet in my [ resurrected? ] flesh​

shall I see God" (Job 19:25-26 AV)​

God Gave King David this prophecy about resurrection:

"As for me, I will behold Thy Face in righteousness: I shall be​

satisfied, when I awake, with Thy Likeness." (Psalms 17:15 AV)​

God Gave Daniel this prophecy about resurrection"

"And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life,​

and some to shame and everlasting contempt. And they that be wise shall shine as the bright-​

ness of the firmament; and they that turn many to righteousness as the stars for ever and ever."​

(Daniel 12:2-3 AV)​

Jesus Prophesied, on earth, to the twelve

"And thou shalt be blessed; for they cannot recompense thee:​

for thou shalt be recompensed at the resurrection of the just."​

(Luke 14:14 AV):​

"But they which shall be accounted worthy to obtain that world, and the resurrection from the dead,​

neither marry, nor are given in marriage: Neither can they die any more: for they are equal unto the​

angels; and are the [ just ] children of God, being the children of the resurrection [ of the just ]."​

(Luke 20:35-36 AV)​

"Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear His​

Voice, And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life [ the just ];​

and they that have done evil [ unjust ], unto the resurrection of damnation [ For the unjust ]."​

(John 5:28-29 AV)​

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John's Revelation Final Prophecy:

"And I saw thrones, and they [ the just ] sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I​

saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for The Word of God, and​

which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their​

foreheads, or in their hands; and they [ the just ] lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.​

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But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished.​

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This is the first resurrection.​

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Blessed and holy is he [ the just ] that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the Second​

Death hath no power, but they [ the just ] shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign​

with Him a thousand years." (Revelation 20:4-6 AV)​

Rightly Divided (2 Timothy 2:15 AV) From “Things That Differ!” (online):

2) Mystery:

Jesus' Revelation Of The Mystery, from Heaven To Paul, about the
resurrections of both believers and Unbelievers:

"And have hope toward God, which they themselves also allow, that there shall​

be a resurrection of the dead, both of the just and unjust." (Acts 24:15 AV)​

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Jesus' Revelation Of The Mystery, from Heaven To Paul, about the
[ Specific ] resurrection of "All of The Body Of Christ":

"Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,​

In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound,​

and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. For this corruptible​

must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality."​

(1 Corinthians 15:51-53 AV)​

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"Who shall change our vile body, that it may be fashioned like unto His Glorious Body,​

According To The Working Whereby He Is Able even To Subdue all things Unto Himself."​

(Philippians 3:21 AV)​

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"For The Lord Himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and​

with The Trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: Then we which are alive and remain​

shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet The Lord in the air: and so shall we​

ever be with The Lord." (1 Thessalonians 4:16-17 AV)​

Amen.

Further Rightly Divided study for Encouragement and Edification:

The Body's Bodily Resurrection!



continued in Part II:

Is there a 'Second chance' for the "dead in sin" at their "resurrection of the damned"?...​

 

[Grace ambassador]

Part II Truth About Resurrections

Is there such a doctrine of: "Second chance" for Unbelievers at their resurrection?

"Yes" says the critic, Mis-interpreting Dan 12:2 as one 'general resurrection' before The Millennium,
God giving Unbelievers a 'Second chance':

"And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake,​

some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt."​

[ see/re-review Three Different resurrections in Part 1 ]​

cc: @Selah, and @Sparrow?:

Precious friends, what do you think? We should obey God, Correct? and:

"Prove all things; hold fast that which is good." (1 Thessalonians 5:21 AV)​

1) 1st of proving all things:

"And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this The Judgment"​

(Hebrews 9:27 AV)​

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Should we accept the 'interpretation' of this as "...once to die, but after this, a resurrection to a
'Second chance' at life, and then The Judgment"? Or:

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As Scripture Teaches: a Final "resurrection of damnation"?​

2) In Prophecy, what Does Jesus Teach?:

"Then Said Jesus again unto them, I Go My Way, and ye shall seek Me, and​

shall die in your sins: whither I Go, ye cannot come." (John 8:21 AV)​

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How is that then a 'Second chance' after being raised? And, then, there is:

The Perfect Memory Of God:

"Not every one that saith unto Me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven;​

but he that doeth The Will Of My Father Which is in heaven. Many will say to Me in​

That [ Judgment? ] Day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Thy Name?​

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And in Thy Name have cast out devils? and in Thy Name done many wonderful​

works? And then will I Profess unto them, I Never Knew you: depart from Me, ye​

that work iniquity." (Matthew 7:21-23 AV)​

Since "He Never Knew them" then it would be Absolutely Unnecessary to offer a 'Second chance',
Correct?

3) Scripturally Confirmed By:

In The Mystery, What Does God, The Lord Jesus Christ, Reveal To Paul about a

'Second chance' for the Unrighteous, Today, Under Grace?​

"We then, as workers together with Him, beseech you also that ye receive not The Grace​

of God in vain. ( For He Saith, I have heard thee in A Time Accepted, and in The Day Of​

Salvation have I Succoured [ Helped ] thee: behold, Now Is The Accepted time;​

Behold, Now Is The Day Of Salvation. )" [ 2 Corinthians 6:1-2 AV ]​

Surely God Meant "Before we die", Correct?:

4) Again, Scripturally Confirmed By:

"And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because​

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[ in "The Day Of Salvation" Shown above ]:​

they received not The Love of The Truth, that they might be saved.​

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And for This Cause God Shall Send them Strong Delusion, that they should believe a lie: That​

they all might be damned who believed not The Truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness"​

(2 Thessalonians 2:10-12 AV)​

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Where does anyone 'see' a Second chance In God's Plain And Clear Words?:

5) Thus God Says "NO 'second' chance," Finally Confirmed By His Great White Throne Judgment:

John's Final Prophecy for:

"...the rest of the dead lived not again Until the thousand years were finished..."​

(Revelation 20:4-6 AV):​

"And I saw A Great White Throne, and Him That Sat on It, from Whose Face the earth and the​

heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them. And I saw the dead, small and great,​

stand before God [ The LORD Jesus Christ, The Righteous Judge! (John 5:22-23 AV) ];​

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and the books * were opened: and Another Book Was Opened, which is The Book Of Life:​

and the dead were judged out of those things Which Were Written in the books *,​

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according to their works. And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell​

delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were Judged every man according to​

their works. And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the Second Death.​

And whosoever was not found Written in The Book Of Life Was Cast into the lake of fire"​

(Revelation 20:11-15 AV)​

No, precious friends, there is NO "second chance" at resurrection, It Is Today, Before 'we die',
Else, As Jesus Stated, "you will die in your sin" And your name Will Be BLOTTED OUT Of The
LAMB's Precious Book Of Life, ↑ these ↑ having Rejected "God's Provision Of Salvation":

Christ And His ALL-Sufficient Sacrifice On The Cross Of Calvary For All their sins:​

"And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this The Judgment" (Hebrews 9:27 AV)​

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"The Lord said of those who are cast into the furnace of fire that they would experience
'wailing and gnashing of teeth.' According to the Scriptures, they will be fitted with a
resurrected body that will make it possible for them to live in an eternal state of judgment
(Daniel 12:2 cf. John 5:29) - [ 'link' credit to P Sadler ]

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Precious friends, If necessary, Please DO NOT hesitate To Receive The Love Of God's Truth,
Today, Before:

you lay your head on your pillow tonight, ok?:​

Grace, Peace, Mercy, and Love!

Amen.

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