Transmitting The Fallen Nature
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GeneZ
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And, let's keep it that way......
You are EDITED for personal attack as far as I'm concerned. But...
I always like to give a benefit of a doubt and play like you are simply testing others
and are really not stuck on yourself, and only act like you suffer from a superiority complex.
I know you do it for our own good to force us to grow. Right?
Jesus tells us He was forsaken.
But, you tell us?
According to your limited understanding of the Trinity...
(which you are determined to have everyone else accept )...
That Jesus was only (can't say lying) kidding us on a grandiose level..
You do remind me of the serpent in the tree saying... "Did God really say?"
Over my 74 years I have been exposed to a few people who think and manipulate others like you do.
Rather than put you on Ignore?
From now on you may only see me when I think your badgering and posturing is going too far with another.
For they too, must learn to fight their own battles against whatever you are taken by.
Now smile and feel smug. For you have been rebuked by an inferior.
Your humble servant now bowing out.
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Listen. I will not sit idly by and let my Lord be blasphemed and misrepresented. I'm sure you would want me to be enraptured with every heretic that you gloat about but rest assured that I will always filter each and everyone of them through basic Biblical critical analysis.
Look. You can explode in a Hissy Fit as many times as you want but please do not misrepresentation me. I am not Catholic so there's no way you can tie me to any Vatican or Pope pseudo group of your imagination.
One of the ironies I find in all this is they can recognise that Christ's own Deity can be laid aside, as it were, and hidden from view lending no aid to His humanity but the Deity of the Father and Spirit can't hide themselves from Christ and leave Him cut off from their help. Go figure. <shrug>
Personally I think their thinking is critical. It's just as well they're on an unfailing life support system.
GeneZ
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I am just a messenger of Biblical Truth. If you have a problem with what's written in the Bible then you can file a complaint against it at your nearest Church.
Stop misrepresenting me. Is that possible for you?
I never said that. Produce the quote.
I am just a Messenger. Do you understand that fact?
You're projecting again.
civic
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Jesus hid the truth to everyone but the 12. Blinded them, kept the truth hidden from them so seeing they wouldn’t see and hearing they would not hear. His deity was veiled and so was the truth He taughtOne of the ironies I find in all this is they can recognise that Christ's own Deity can be laid aside, as it were, and hidden from view lending no aid to His humanity but the Deity of the Father and Spirit can't hide themselves from Christ and leave Him cut off from their help. Go figure. <shrug>
Personally I think their thinking is critical. It's just as well they're on an unfailing life support system.
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Christ is a God Person and as such His Diety cannot be "laid aside". He can veil it and expose it as He did at the Transfiguration but He cannot deny that He is God.
His humanity was permeated with Divinity at His Incarnation. If we mere mortals can partake of Divine Nature, then think how much more Christ's human nature partakes of His God nature.
(2 Pet 1:4) by which have been given to us exceedingly great and precious promises, that through these you may be partakers of the divine nature, having escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust.
I dont know of any Bible verse that proclaims that the Persons of the Trinity hide from one another. Do you?
I always advise everyone to employ critical thinking.Personally I think their thinking is critical. It's just as well they're on an unfailing life support system.
Nestorians cannot understand that Jesus cannot deny that He is God. He can veil his Divinity and expose it at will but He cannot deny His Divinity.Jesus hid the truth to everyone but the 12. Blinded them, kept the truth hidden from them so seeing they wouldn’t see and hearing they would not hear. His deity was veiled and so was the truth He taught
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That reminds me of Calvinists and how they are so brainwashed about their version of election. It's like they have an illness that is immune to all antibacterial treatments.
GeneZ
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Yup all sins were paid for....Personally I think their thinking is critical. It's just as well they're on an unfailing life support system.
That means one can be a totally self righteous crusader for one's false cherished pet doctrines and still find themselves standing before the Lord in a glorious resurrection body...
We can not lose our salvation because Jesus was forsaken in our place...
Yet, we can lose glorious eternal rewards that the Lord so much wanted to bestow up believers.
But, only those who endure the bs that tries to sway us, and sticks with sound doctrine,
shall receive such a crown which will be to the Lord's good pleasure.
Believers can not lose their salvation. They can only lose rewards.
Even calling the Lord a misleading liar can not cause one to lose their salvation as some have
by saying He was screaming out a lie.
My God, my God, why have you forsaken me? Why are you so far from saving me, so far from the words of my groaning? O my God, I cry out by day, but you do not answer, by night, and am not silent." Psalm 22:1-2
Even Psalm 22 acknowledges that Jesus would be speaking from His humanity in verse 10!
"From birth I was cast upon you; from my mother's womb you have been my God."
Look! God can not say that God is His God!
Only humanity can say that!
Jesus was functioning in His humanity while on the Cross!
Problem is:
Those with an intellectual bent can bore easy. And, in their flesh will seek some conflict to challenge them out of their boredom.
Quite often feeling self elated when they find themselves able to surmount what will be a challenge to their error (giving them
in return a sense of superiority and elation they crave when they do that) as they dismantle the other's arguments with what they
see as "their superior sophisticated sense".... while Scripture twisting.
Some will go through this phase only to outgrow it as the Lord leads them out of their old selves and sense of strength, into the
new power will bestow peace and tranquility of soul, as sound doctrine takes hold and pushes out the garbage thinking they had
been depending upon for their old way to maintain human self esteem.
I have shared the company of geniuses from both sides we find in Christianity. One side fails to recognize the invisible realm
that resorts to flattery, and forming them into mutual admiration societies, thus creating strongholds against knowing the Word
as the Lord demands for blessings.
so be it.... They are not my children. I just do not want them playing in my back yard.
grace and peace .............
GeneZ
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There is no such thing as a God person.
That is an invention that does not agree with the Word of God as you present it.
For, one could just as easily say that a prophet was a "God person."
GeneZ
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Do you deny that the "Word was God"?
Will you please, please, please try to read what I write with at least some level of understanding.
The laying aside is figurative.
Just don't misrepresentation me. I am not Catholic so there's no way you can tie me to any Vatican or Pope pseudo group of your imagination.
GeneZ
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You reason like a Catholic....
For invented dogma that some men can agree upon, over rides the Word of God when it gets in your way.
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Do you deny that the "Word was God"?
Prove it. Just give me one example of that.
