Things that accompany Christ

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So we back where we started, you trusting in the flesh Phil 3:1-5

Finally, my brethren, rejoice in the Lord. To write the same things to you, to me indeed is not grievous, but for you it is safe.

2 Beware of dogs, beware of evil workers, beware of the concision.

3 For we are the circumcision, which worship God in the spirit, and rejoice in Christ Jesus, and have no confidence in the flesh.

4 Though I might also have confidence in the flesh. If any other man thinketh that he hath whereof he might trust in the flesh, I more:

5 Circumcised the eighth day, of the stock of Israel, of the tribe of Benjamin, an Hebrew of the Hebrews; as touching the law, a Pharisee;

You said it:

5 Circumcised the eighth day, of the stock of Israel, of the tribe of Benjamin, an Hebrew of the Hebrews; as touching the law, a Pharisee;

Saul is exalting his flesh. Whaaa?
Yup. Saul was rabbi and Pharisee, and he remained a rabbi and Pharisee after being born-again on the road to Damascus by Jesus. Saul also remained obedient to the Law of Moses like a good rabbi and Pharisee.

 

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You said it:

5 Circumcised the eighth day, of the stock of Israel, of the tribe of Benjamin, an Hebrew of the Hebrews; as touching the law, a Pharisee;

Saul is exalting his flesh. Whaaa?
Yup. Saul was rabbi and Pharisee, and he remained a rabbi and Pharisee after being born-again on the road to Damascus by Jesus. Saul also remained obedient to the Law of Moses like a good rabbi and Pharisee.

You still trusting in the flesh.

 

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You still trusting in the flesh.

All the patriarchs trusted in the flesh. They were Hebrew. But there was one part of their flesh they didn't trust in. In fact, they cut off that flesh in obedience to God. And God was please for trusting in their flesh, except not that flesh.

 

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All the patriarchs trusted in the flesh. They were Hebrew. But there was one part of their flesh they didn't trust in. In fact, they cut off that flesh in obedience to God. And God was please for trusting in their flesh, except not that flesh.

You still trusting in the flesh !

 

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Blessings that automatically belong to each sinner Christ died for even before they believe, and while they are ungodly, they are legal blessings established in the court of Heaven due to His Death having for them satisfying law and Justice. They are 1. Remission or forgiveness of sins, redemption, reconciliation and Justification just to name a few.

 

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Blessings that automatically belong to each sinner Christ died for even before they believe, and while they are ungodly, they are legal blessings established in the court of Heaven due to His Death having for them satisfying law and Justice. They are 1. Remission or forgiveness of sins, redemption, reconciliation and Justification just to name a few.

That is true. Israel has been in the New Covenant era for nearly 2000 years. And according to the New Covenant all Israel has been saved, redeemed, and blessed as God promised. Christ's death and resurrection has accomplished their atonement and restoration back to God.

34 For I will forgive their iniquity,
And I will remember their sin no more.
Jeremiah 31:34.

And that's exactly what happened.

 

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That is true. Israel has been in the New Covenant era for nearly 2000 years. And according to the New Covenant all Israel has been saved, redeemed, and blessed as God promised. Christ's death and resurrection has accomplished their atonement and restoration back to God.

34 For I will forgive their iniquity,
And I will remember their sin no more.
Jeremiah 31:34.

And that's exactly what happened.

You trusting in the flesh

 

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His Advocacy Work,

Now another thing that accompanies Christ Death for them He died for, is that He ascened to heaven also for their benefit and is being their advocate, 1 Jn 2:2-1-2

My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate[paraklētos] with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:

2 And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.

Now His being a propitiation for our sins and Advocacy work go hand in hand, so if He died for any man, that man even in sin, has Jesus presently being an advocate,

Thats word means:

1. "one who pleads another's cause before a judge, a pleader, counsel for defense, legal assistant; an advocate": Demosthenes, p. 341, 11; (Diogenes Laërtius 4, 50, cf. Dio Cassius, 46, 20.

2. universally, one who pleads another's cause with one, an intercessor: Philo, de mund. opif. § 59; de Josepho § 40; in Flaccum §§ 3 and 4; so of Christ, in his exaltation at God's right hand, pleading with God the Father for the pardon of our sins, 1 John 2:1

Now those who take 1 Jn 2:2 the whole world to mean every individual of mankind, you by default are teaching He is being an advocate with God the Father on their behalf, to pardon, forgive their sins based upon His Sacrifice that satisfied His Law and Justice on their behalf. If He died for them, whether they believe or not, He is their propitiation and Advocate.
So let me ask, If Christ is the advocate for the whole world of mankind, is He pleading the cause for the these Peter wrote of here 2 Peter 2:14-17

14 Having eyes full of adultery, and that cannot cease from sin; beguiling unstable souls: an heart they have exercised with covetous practices; cursed children:

15 Which have forsaken the right way, and are gone astray, following the way of Balaam the son of Bosor, who loved the wages of unrighteousness;

16 But was rebuked for his iniquity: the dumb *** speaking with man's voice forbad the madness of the prophet.

17 These are wells without water, clouds that are carried with a tempest; to whom the mist of darkness is reserved for ever.

Peter writes that eternal darkness is reserved for these men for their sins, but isn't Christ being the propitiation and advocate pleading their cause b4 the Throne of God to pardon them and bless them with Justification ?

 

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They shall live unto righteousness !

Everyone Christ died for, bare their sins, shall also become dead to sin, and live to righteousness. This means the effects of Christ baring their sins, will cause them to live spiritually unto righteousness, hence ensuring they are made alive by the Spirit. 1 Pet 2:24

24 Who his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree, that we, being dead to sins, should live unto righteousness: by whose stripes ye were healed.

Its impossible for Christ to have died for someone, baring their sins away, and consequently they dont become dead to sin, and live spiritually unto righteousness. If they dont, it means His death failed to heal them, which is contrary to this scripture.

 

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They are washed from their sins !

Rev 1:5

5 And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood,

This blessing accompanies Christ and His Loving us, dying for our sins, washing us from them by His Own Blood.
The word washed here is louō in aorist tense, denoting a completed act means:

1. to bathe, wash
   1. of a dead person
   2. washing to cleanse blood out of wounds, to loose, to release, to dissolve, to break, to destroy
2. to discharge from prison, let go

Also being washed from our sins as here and Justified from our sins, are all one. This accompanies the giving of Christ. Its like when Paul wrote Rom 8:34

32 He that spared not his own Son, but delivered him up for us all, how shall he not with him also freely give us all things?

 

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The obtaining of eternal redemption for us !

Our Eternal redemption accompanies Christ dying for us,

Don Fortner writes:

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Hebrews 9:12​

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‘Having obtained eternal redemption for us’​

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The apostle Paul tells us that when the Lord Jesus Christ appeared in heaven with his own blood, offering to God the Father the merits of his sin-atoning sacrifice as the sinner’s Substitute, he ‘obtained eternal redemption’. His one sacrifice for sin was gloriously effectual. When our Savior cried, ‘It is finished’, he fully accomplished the redemption of his people. The death of Christ effectually secured and guaranteed the eternal salvation of God’s elect. Those sinners whom he represented, for whom he died, will never be condemned.

1. I know that all for whom Christ died will be saved, because they are completely forgiven of all sin. ‘We have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of his grace’ (Eph. 1:6). God charged our sins to Christ, Christ nailed them to the cross and his blood washed them away (Col. 1: 13-15).

2. Those for whom Christ shed his blood must be saved, because they are completely freed from the curse of the law (Gal. 3:13; Rom. 8: 1). When Christ was made to be sin for us, he was made a curse for us. When he died under the curse of the law for us he removed our sins. Removing our sins, he removed us from the curse. Where there is no sin there can be no curse.

3. All God’s elect will be saved, because they have been completely justified by the death of Christ. Justification is received by faith, but it was fully accomplished at Calvary. Christ was ‘delivered for our offenses, and raised again for our justification’ (Rom. 4:25). To be justified is to be cleared of all charges, to be just as if I had never sinned. No charge will be laid against God’s elect, because God has fully justified us in Christ (Rom. 8:33).

4. And all who were crucified with Christ will be with Christ in heaven, because they are already in heaven representatively. When Christ died as our Substitute, we died in him. And when he arose and ascended back into heaven as our Representative before God, we arose and ascended into heaven with him (Eph. 2:4-5). Blessed be God, the finished work of Christ was the full, effectual accomplishment of redemption for all his elect!​

http://www.donfortner.com/html_firm/Grace For Today.htm​

 

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The Spiritual follows the legal !

When Christ died for the sins of the elect, they legally have been redeemed from all iniquity Titus 2:14

14 Who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works.

Now that legally Justified them from all Iniquity, and so as a accompaniment, they are renewed Spiritually and made spiritual heirs practically or experientially Titus 3:3-7

3 For we ourselves also were sometimes foolish, disobedient, deceived, serving divers lusts and pleasures, living in malice and envy, hateful, and hating one another.

4 But after that the kindness and love of God our Saviour toward man appeared,

5 Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;

6 Which he shed on us abundantly through Jesus Christ our Saviour;

7 That being justified by his grace, we should be made heirs according to the hope of eternal life.

Because He died for the elect and redeemed them, Justified them, He must renew them Spiritually ! He does this because He is their Saviour !

 

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The purging away of our sins !

All the sinners Christ died for, its accompanied with the purging away of their sins,
Heb 1:3

3 Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high:

The word purged here is the greek word καθαρισμός:

, a cleansing from the guilt of sins

This means those He died for are released from the punishment of their sins.
Remember what was told Isaiah 6:7

7 And he laid it upon my mouth, and said, Lo, this hath touched thy lips; and thine iniquity is taken away, and thy sin purged.

Ps 65:3

3 Iniquities prevail against me: as for our transgressions, thou shalt purge them away.

Now Christ accomplished this for all the sinners He died for, as their Surety. Not one of them can perish !

 

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Forgiveness of sins accompany Christ, in other words, its impossible for Christ to have given Himself for you. or to have been to us by God, and it didnt bring with it forgiveness of sins Rom8:32-33

32 He that spared not his own Son, but delivered him up for us all, how shall he not with him also freely give us all things?

33 Who shall lay any thing to the charge of God's elect? It is God that justifieth.

Notice, if God the Father delivered up His Son for us, He must With Him, freely give us all things as it pertains to Salvation. The words freely give , in the original are charizomai:
to give graciously, give freely, bestow

1. to forgive,
2. to grant forgiveness, to pardon

Paul used it here as well

Ephesians 4:32;

And be ye kind one to another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, even as God for Christ's sake hath forgiven you.
Notice, it is for Christs sake god has freely forgiven them He gave Christ die for.
If Christ died for us, we are born forgiven of sins, freely for Christs Sake,
Thats why Paul challenges in Rom8:33

33 Who shall lay any thing to the charge of God's elect? It is God that justifieth.

34 Who is he that condemneth? It is Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us.

No charge can stick, for Christ has died for them, they are freely forgiven, even Justified.

 

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To believe on Christs name accompany Christ, in other words, its impossible for Christ to have given Himself for you. or to have been given to us by God, and it didn't bring with it the blessing of Faith or to believe on His Name

Phi 1:29

For unto you it is given in the behalf of Christ, not only to believe on him, but also to suffer for his sake;

Again the word given is the same word charizomai: corresponds with Freely Give in Rom 8:32, so God in His prudence and wisdom, not only gave Christ to die for the sins of the elect, but with Him also gives the elect and for Christs sake, them the Faith to believe on Him,

There is no such thing as Christ dying for us, and us not coming to believe on His Name because of it. Its all of sovereign grace.