'In' Christ Jesus

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'But of Him are ye in Christ Jesus,
Who of God is made unto us
wisdom, and righteousness,
and sanctification, and redemption:
That, according as it is written,
He that glorieth, let him glory in the Lord.'

(1Cor. 1:30-31)

Hello there,

Looking up the verses above, I wanted to consider the words, 'in Christ Jesus'. These verses tell us that it is of God that we are 'in' Christ Jesus: it is God Himself that places the believer there. This was such a blessing to me, when I first read it, and realised the import of it. For I had been asked by other Christians on numerous occasions, 'are you in Christ?' and I would fret about it, looking within to see evidence of my salvation, and of course all I saw was my own natural state, which left me feeling conflicted and unhappy. I had yet to learn this wonderful truth, that God had placed me in Christ Jesus Himself, so yes of course I was 'in' Him, regardless of the lack of visible evidence in my flesh or in my feelings, which were fickle. It is a faith position, and one that I am thankful for.

It is Christ Jesus Who is our righteousness; and He is also our sanctification, in Him we are perfect and complete as to our 'standing' before God; and in Him we now wait for resurrection, i,e., the redemption of our bodies from the power of the grave ( Rom. 8:23; Eph. 4:30 ).

I would be interested to hear anything that you have to contribute on this subject.

Thank you
In Christ Jesus
Chris
 
'in Christ Jesus'.

I would add the above to the quotation below:

New International Dictionary of New Testament Theology (NIDNTT): Phrases such as en kyriō, en pneumati, en heni sōmati, en pistei and en alētheia indicate states which Christians live and act (3:1191, Appendix F. "en" 4. Figurative Sense, M. J. Harris).

en kyriō = in (the) Lord
en pneumati = in (the) Spirit
en heni sōmati = in one body
en pistei = in faith
en alētheia = in truth
 
I would add the above to the quotation below:

New International Dictionary of New Testament Theology (NIDNTT): Phrases such as en kyriō, en pneumati, en heni sōmati, en pistei and en alētheia indicate states which Christians live and act (3:1191, Appendix F. "en" 4. Figurative Sense, M. J. Harris).

en kyriō = in (the) Lord
en pneumati = in (the) Spirit
en heni sōmati = in one body
en pistei = in faith
en alētheia = in truth
notice how it all surrounds Christ !

our faith must be in Christ
our salvation is based upon Christ
we were created in Christ for good works
one must confess He is Lord to be saved
He is the vine we must be in to produce fruit
He is before all things and in Him all things exist.
We are called CHRISTians, not Fatherians :)

As Jesus taught its all about Him from cover to cover in our 66 books. :)

yet we have a sect that dishonors the Son robbing Him of His power, glory, honor, praise, worship and prayer.
 
@Fred
@civic,

'Abide in me, and I in you.
As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself,
except it abide in the vine;
no more can ye, except ye abide in me.'

(Joh 15:4)

Hello both,

Thank you for your input. It is helpful.

I anticipated the verse above being brought forward in regard to the subject of being, 'in' Christ, and thought I would take a look at it's context in anticipation:-

' I am the vine, ye are the branches:
He that abideth in Me, and I in him,
the same bringeth forth much fruit:
for without me ye can do nothing.
If a man abide not in Me,
he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered;
and men gather them,
and cast them into the fire, and they are burned.'

(Joh 15:5-6)

* Here speaking to His disciples ('I' & 'ye'), the Lord says that there are two kinds of branches, one that bears no fruit, and one that does. The former He raises up that it may bear fruit, and the latter He prunes that it may bear more.
* In verse six the Lord is not referring to His disciples, but to the wider audience ('a man', 'he') to those who abide not in Him, for his words become more generalized.

Thank you
In Christ Jesus
Chris
 
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@civic,
'yet we have a sect that dishonors the Son robbing Him of His power, glory, honor, praise, worship and prayer'

Yes, I agree, @civic,

It is distressing to see subject headings listed on the front page as you enter the forum, which are evidence of sheer unbelief, and more so within the threads themselves. It is grievous to a believer to see the Lord Jesus Christ used and abused in this way. Thankfully there are those who are upholding the truth too.

In Christ Jesus
Chris
 
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notice how it all surrounds Christ !

our faith must be in Christ
our salvation is based upon Christ
we were created in Christ for good works
one must confess He is Lord to be saved
He is the vine we must be in to produce fruit
He is before all things and in Him all things exist.
We are called CHRISTians, not Fatherians :)

As Jesus taught its all about Him from cover to cover in our 66 books. :)

yet we have a sect that dishonors the Son robbing Him of His power, glory, honor, praise, worship and prayer.

You know Mary Magdalene loved Jesus. You can see it in her reaction after His death.

John 20:14 And when she had thus said, she turned herself back, and saw Jesus standing, and knew not that it was Jesus.
John 20:15 Jesus saith unto her, Woman, why weepest thou? whom seekest thou? She, supposing him to be the gardener, saith unto him, Sir, if thou have borne him hence, tell me where thou hast laid him, and I will take him away.
John 20:16 Jesus saith unto her, Mary. She turned herself, and saith unto him, Rabboni; which is to say, Master.

If we are a student of the Scriptures, we can easily recognize that Jesus never told disciples like Mary and John.....

Stop loving me so much and give your love to the Father. If Jesus wasn't equal with the Father, then Mary and John committed idolatry.

Mar 9:39 But Jesus said, Forbid him not: for there is no man which shall do a miracle in my name, that can lightly speak evil of me.
 
notice how it all surrounds Christ !

our faith must be in Christ
our salvation is based upon Christ
we were created in Christ for good works
one must confess He is Lord to be saved
He is the vine we must be in to produce fruit
He is before all things and in Him all things exist.
We are called CHRISTians, not Fatherians :)

As Jesus taught its all about Him from cover to cover in our 66 books. :)

yet we have a sect that dishonors the Son robbing Him of His power, glory, honor, praise, worship and prayer.

The evidence is everywhere.
 
'Paul and Timotheus, the servants of Jesus Christ,
to all the saints in Christ Jesus
which are at Philippi, with the bishops and deacons:
Grace be unto you, and peace, from God our Father,
and from the Lord Jesus Christ.'

(Php 1:1)

Hello there,

My mind is still coming back to the words, 'In' Christ Jesus, and pondering it.

Last night I began reading Philippians, and again, my mind became preoccupied by the words, 'in Christ Jesus' in the very first verse (above): and in the margin of my Bible I was directed to an appendix at the back of the Bible in relation to those words, and it said that 'en' translated 'in', denotes being or remaining within, with the primary idea of rest and continuance. It has regard to place and space (eg., Mat. 10:16 & Luk.5:16), It covered other aspects as well, but this was sufficient for what I wanted to know. The essence of the meaning. It is wonderful to know that God has placed us in Christ Jesus, that 'in' Him, we have been identified with Him so closely, that we are reckoned by God to have died with Him, been buried, quickened and raised with Him, and ascended to God's right hand where we, as members of His body, are in Him, awaiting His appearing, when we too will appear with Him in glory.

I still wonder and glory in the completeness of this reckoning of God, which is all of faith, His faith. He has encircled us by His precious Son, in Whom we are accepted and complete, and assured future resurrection glory. The security of that position is so very sure, for we are, 'in' Him, far above all principality, power, might and dominion and every name that is named.

Praise His Holy Name!

In Christ Jesus
Chris
 
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'If ye then be risen with Christ,
seek those things which are above,
where Christ sitteth on the right hand of God.
Set your affection on things above, not on things on the earth.
For ye are dead, and your life is hid with Christ in God.
When Christ, Who is our life, shall appear,
then shall ye also appear with Him in glory.

(Col 3:1-4)

Praise God!
 
'But of Him are ye in Christ Jesus,
Who of God is made unto us
wisdom, and righteousness,
and sanctification, and redemption:
That, according as it is written,
He that glorieth, let him glory in the Lord.'

(1Cor. 1:30-31)

Hello there,

Looking up the verses above, I wanted to consider the words, 'in Christ Jesus'. These verses tell us that it is of God that we are 'in' Christ Jesus: it is God Himself that places the believer there. This was such a blessing to me, when I first read it, and realised the import of it. For I had been asked by other Christians on numerous occasions, 'are you in Christ?' and I would fret about it, looking within to see evidence of my salvation, and of course all I saw was my own natural state, which left me feeling conflicted and unhappy. I had yet to learn this wonderful truth, that God had placed me in Christ Jesus Himself, so yes of course I was 'in' Him, regardless of the lack of visible evidence in my flesh or in my feelings, which were fickle. It is a faith position, and one that I am thankful for.

It is Christ Jesus Who is our righteousness; and He is also our sanctification, in Him we are perfect and complete as to our 'standing' before God; and in Him we now wait for resurrection, i,e., the redemption of our bodies from the power of the grave ( Rom. 8:23; Eph. 4:30 ).

I would be interested to hear anything that you have to contribute on this subject.

Thank you
In Christ Jesus
Chris
It is more important that Christ be "in you."
 
Here is a list of prepositions from Bullinger.

104. PREPOSITIONS.



For the true understanding of the New Testament a knowledge of the Greek Prepositions is indispensable.
They might be exhibited in groups, or according to the Cases (*1) of the Noun which they govern, or according to their geometrical relations to a line, a superficies, and a solid, or according to the relative frequency of their occurrences (*2) . But we have given them below in their alphabetical order, so that they may be more readily found by the reader.
They are eighteen in number, and may thus be defined :--
i. ana governs only one case (the Accusative), and denotes up , upon , formed from ano (as kata is from kato , which ana stands in direct antithesis). In relation to vertical lines it denotes the top . With numerals it is used as a distributive (Mat_20:9; Mat_20:10. Luk_9:3. Joh_2:6); also adverbially (Rev_21:21).
ii. anti governs only one case (the Genitive), and denotes over against , or opposite. Hence it is used as instead of or in the place of (e.g. Mat_2:22. Luk_11:11); and denotes equivalence (Mat_20:28. Heb_12:16. 1Pe_3:9), while huper (No. xvii, below) denotes in the interest of, or on behalf of (Luk_6:28. Joh_17:19).
iii. amphi is used only in composition in the N.T. and is rare in Classical Greek. It denotes about , or around . Used of a solid, it denotes both sides .
iv. apo governs only one case (the Genitive), and denotes motion from the surface of an object, as a line drawn from the circumference; it thus stands in contrast with ek (No. vii, below), which denotes a line drawn from the centre; while para denotes a line drawn as a tangent, thus --
Hence, it is used of motion away from a place (e.g. Mat_3:16; Mat_8:1. Act_15:38); marking the distance which separates the two places, or the interval of time between two events (e.g. Mat_19:4. Act_20:18). It also marks the origin or source whence anything comes such as birth, descent, residence (e.g. Mat_2:1; Mat_15:1; Mat_21:11. Act_10:23; Act_17:13), or of information (e.g. Mat_7:16). Apo may consequently be used of deliverance or passing away from any state or condition (e.g. Mat_1:21; Mat_14:2. Mar_5:34. Act_13:8; Act_14:15. Heb_6:1. It would thus differ from hupo (No. xvii, below), which would imply a cause of immediate and active, while apo would imply a cause of virtually passive, and more remote.
v. dia governs two cases (the Genitive and Accusative).
1. With the Genitive it has the general sense of through , as though dividing a surface into two by an intersecting line. It includes the idea of proceeding from and passing out (e.g. Mar_11:16. 1Co_3:15. 1Ti_2:15. 1Pe_3:20). Cp. diameter. In a temporal sense; after an interval (Mat_26:61. Mar_2:1. Gal_2:1). From the ideas of space and time dia (with the Gen.) denotes any cause by means of which an action passes to its accomplishment (e.g. Mat_1:22. Joh_1:3. Act_3:18. 1Co_16:3. 2Co_9:13); hence, it denotes the passing through whatever is interposed between the beginning and the end of such action.
2. With the Accusative it has the sense of on account of , or because of (e.g. Mat_27:18. Mar_2:27. Rev_4:11), indicating both the exciting cause (Act_12:20. Rom_4:25. 1Co_11:10), the impulsive cause (e.g. Joh_12:9. Rom_4:23; Rom_15:15. Heb_2:9), or the prospective cause (Rom_6:19; Rom_8:11; Rom_14:15. Heb_5:3).
vi. eis governs only one case (the Accusative). Euclid uses eis when a line is drawn to meet another line, at a certain point. Hence, it denotes motion to or unto an object, with the purpose of reaching or touching it (e.g. Mat_2:11; Mat_3:10. Luk_8:14. Act_16:10). From this comes the idea of the object toward which such motion is directed (e.g. Mat_18:20; Mat_18:30. 1Co_12:13. Gal_3:27); and for , or with respect to which such action or movement is made. In contrast with eis , pros (No. xv, below) may mark one object as the means of reaching an ulterior object which is denoted by eis (e.g. Joh_6:35. Rom_5:1. Eph_4:12). It is the opposite of ek (No. vii, below).
vii. ek governs only one case (the Genitive), and denotes motion from the interior. See under apo (No. iv, above, and diagram there). It is used of time, place, and origin. It means out from as distinguished from apo (No. iv, above), which means off , or away from . Ek marks the more immediate origin, while apo marks the more remote origin; of expressing the intermediate meanings.
viii. en governs only one case (the Dative), and denotes being or remaining within , with the primary idea of rest and continuance. It has regard to place and space (e.g. Mat_10:16. Luk_5:16), or sphere of action (e.g. Mat_14:2. Rom_1:5; Rom_1:8; Rom_6:4). It is also used for the efficient cause as emanating from within, and hence has sometimes the force of by , denoting the instrument, with , passing on to union and fellowship; en denoting inclusion, and sun (No. xvi, below) denoting conjunction . En denotes also continuance in time (Mat_2:1; Mat_27:40. Joh_11:10). 2. with plural = among.
ix. epi governs three cases (the Genitive, Dative, and Accusative), and denotes superposition .
1. With the Genitive it denotes upon , as proceeding or springing from, and answers to the question "Where?" (e.g. Mat_9:2; Mat_10:27. Mar_8:4. Luk_22:30. Joh_6:21).
With the idea of locality it conveys the sense, in the presence of (e.g. Mat_28:14. Mar_13:9. Act_24:19. 1Co_6:1).
With the idea of time , it looks backward and upward, e.g. "in the days of" (Mat_1:11. Heb_1:2).
With the idea of place , it denotes dignity and power (e.g. Mat_23:2. Act_12:21. Rom_9:5. Rev_2:26).
2. With the Dative it implies actual superposition , as one thing resting upon another, as upon a foundation or basis which may be actual (e.g. Mar_6:25; Mar_6:28; Mar_6:39), or moral (e.g. Mat_18:13. Mar_3:5). Both senses occur in 1Th_3:7.
Hence it is used of the moving principle or motive suggesting the purpose or object (e.g. Eph_2:16), and sometimes including the result (e.g. 2Ti_2:14).
3. With the Accusative it implies the downward pressure on that upon which a thing rests; active motion being suggested (e.g. 2Co_3:15. 1Ti_5:5).
Hence, it denotes any extended motion downward (Mat_13:2; Mat_18:12; Mat_19:28; Mat_27:45) from heaven to earth (Mar_4:20. Act_11:15. 2Co_12:9).
Compared with pros (No. xv, below), pros marks the motion, the direction to be taken, while epi (with Acc.) marks the point to be reached.
This downward pressure may be that of the mind, or feeling (e.g. Mat_25:21; Mat_27:43. Heb_6:1. 1Pe_1:13).
For the difference between eis (No. vi, above) and epi (with the Acc.) see Rom_9:21, "one vessel unto ( eis ) honour", and v . Rom_9:23, "riches of glory on ( epi ) the vessels of mercy".
x. kata governs two cases (the Genitive and the Accusative), and denotes two motions, vertical and horizontal.
1. With the Genitive it denotes vertical motion, the opposite of ana (No. i, above), descent, or detraction from a higher place or plane (e.g. Mat_8:32. Mar_5:13); and direction to, or against (e.g. Mar_9:40. Joh_18:29. Act_25:27. 2Co_13:8).
2. With the Accusative it denotes horizontal motion, along which the action proceeds (e.g. Luk_8:30; Luk_10:33. Act_5:15; Act_8:26. Php_3:14). Sometimes it includes the purpose or intention (e.g. 2Ti_1:1; 2Ti_4:3. Tit_1:1). In this connection eis (No. vi, above. 2Ti_4:14) marks the more immediate purpose, pros (No. xv. 3. Eph_4:12. Philem. 5) the ultimate purpose, and kata (No. xv. 2) the destination of the motion (e.g. Mat_27:15. Heb_3:8) and the accordance, conformity or proportion of the two things which such motion thus connects (e.g. Mat_16:27; Mat_23:3; Mat_25:15. Luk_2:22).
xi. meta governs two cases (the Genitive and the Accusative), and denotes association and companionship with . It thus differs from sun (No. xvi, below), which denotes proximity to and hence conjunction or coherence .
Compare Eph_6:23 ( meta ) with Eph_4:31 ( sun ); and 1Th_3:13 ( meta ) with Col_3:3 ( sun ).
1. Hence meta , with the Genitive, denotes among , amid (e.g. Mat_26:58. Mar_1:13. Rev_21:3), or in company with (e.g. Mat_9:15. Joh_11:31. 2Th_1:7. Rev_14:13).
It refers specially to the mental disposition with which an action is performed (e.g. Mat_12:30. Mar_3:5. Luk_1:39; Luk_9:49. Joh_8:28. 2Co :7:15).
2. With the Accusative it means after , always in connection with time (e.g. Mat_17:1; Mat_26:32. Joh_13:7. Heb_4:7; Heb_7:28).
xii. para governs three cases (Gen., Dat., and Acc.), and the uniform meaning is beside , or along side of . See apo , No. iv, above, and cp. diagram there.
1. With the Genitive it denotes from beside, implying the source from which anything proceeds (e.g. Mat_2:4; Mat_21:42. Luk_2:1; Luk_6:19. Act_26:10. Php_4:18).
As distinguished from hupo (No. xviii, below) it denotes the general sense of motion, while hupo marks the special sense or efficient cause of such motion.
As distinguished from apo (No. iv, above) it marks the motion from a person (e.g. Mat_2:16), while apo may imply motion from a place (e.g. Mat_2:1).
2. With the Dative it denotes rest beside , and at a person, place, or thing, expressing rest and position there (e.g. Joh_19:25. Act_9:43); laid up with or in store with (e.g. Mat_6:1. Luk_1:30), or proximity to (e.g. Mat_22:25. Col_4:16).
Hence it implies in the power of (Mat_19:26. Luk_1:37); in the judgment of (e.g. Rom_2:12. 2Pe_2:11).
3. With the Accusative it denotes motion to a place so as to be alongside it (e.g. Mat_15:29. Mar_4:1).
Hence, beside and beyond , and so against (e.g. Act_18:13. Rom_1:25; Rom_1:26; Rom_4:18. 1Co_3:11; Gal_1:8); and beside , i.e. more or less than (e.g. Luk_3:13; Luk_13:2. Rom_14:5. 2Co_11:24). Compare pros , No. xv, below.
xiii. pert governs two cases (Genitive and Accusative), and denotes around , or about , like a completed circle. Hence concerning . It marks the object about which the action of the verb takes place.
1. With the Genitive it means as concerning , or, as regards , but always with the primary idea, and marking the central point of the activity (e.g.
Mat_4:6. Luk_24:19; Luk_24:27; Luk_24:44).
2. With the Accusative it denotes the extension of such activity, hence, around (e.g. Mar_9:42. Luk_13:8. Act_28:7. Php_2:23).
xiv. pro governs only one case (the Genitive), and denotes the position as being in sight or, before one, in place (e.g. Luk_7:27; Luk_9:52. Jas_5:9); time (e.g. Mat_5:12. Joh_17:24. Act_21:38); or superiority (e.g. Jas_5:12. 1Pe_4:8).
xv. pros governs three cases (the Genitive, Dative and Accusative), and denotes to , or, toward , implying motion onward . Its general meaning with the three cases is the motive -- as in consideration of (with the Genitive); in addition to anything -- as an act (with the Dative); with a view to anything -- as an end (with the Accusative).
Compared with para (No. xii, above), pros denotes only direction and tendency, whereas para denotes both motion and change of place of some object.
1. With the Genitive only occurrence is Act_27:34.
2. With the Dative it occurs five times : Luk_19:37. Joh_18:16; Joh_20:12; Joh_20:13. Rev_1:13.
3. With the Accusative, see e.g. Mat_2:12; Mat_3:10; Mat_21:34; Mat_26:57. Mar_5:11; Mar_11:1; Mar_14:54. Luk_7:7. Act_6:1. 1Th_3:6.
xvi. sun governs only one case (the Dative). See under meta (No. xi, above) (e.g. Luk_23:11. Rom_6:8).
xvii. huper governs two cases (the Genitive and Accusative), and denotes above , or over with respect to the upper plane of a solid. Latin, super .
1. With the Genitive it is used in its relative rather than its absolute sense. In the place of (e.g. Joh_11:50; Joh_18:14. Rom_5:6. 1Ti_2:6. Philem. 13. 1Pe_3:18.).
In the interests of (e.g. 2Th_2:1).
In behalf of (e.g. Mat_5:44. Act_9:16).
For the purpose of (e.g. Joh_11:4. Rom_15:8. 2Co_12:19. Php_2:13).
With the Genitive huper is connected with peri being the apex of the triangle, or the fixed point of the compass, whereas peri (see No. xiii, above) is the circle described around it. Hence huper has regard to feeling and implies the pleading a case on behalf of another, whereas peri implies the mere description of the circumstances of the case (e.g. 1Pe_3:18. Jud_1:9).
2. With the Accusative it denotes beyond , in excess of measure, honour, number, or time (e.g. Mat_10:24. 2Co_1:8. Eph_1:22. Php_2:9. Philem. 16).
xviii. hupo governs two cases (the Genitive and Accusative), denotes the under side of a solid, and is thus the opposite of huper (see No. xvii, above).
With the Genitive it describes the motion from beneath; with Dative (not used in the N.T.), position beneath; and with the Accusative, motion or extension underneath.
1. With the Genitive, hupo is used to mark the efficient or instrumental agent, from under whose hand or power the action of the verb proceeds (e.g. Mat_1:22; Mat_2:16. Luk_14:8).
2. With the Accusative, it denotes the place whither such action extends (e.g. Mat_8:8. Mar_4:32. Jas_2:3).
Hence it implies moral or legal subjection (e.g. Mat_8:0. Rom_6:14; Rom_7:14; Rom_16:20. 1Ti_6:1).




(*1) The Cases governed by the Prepositions stand in the following proportion : Genitive, 17; Accusative, 19; and Dative, 15, according to Helbing (Schanz’s Beitrage, No. 16 (1904), p. 11.

(*2) On p. 98 of his Grammar of the N.T. Greek, Professor J. H. Moulton gives a list as follows :-- If en represents unity, the order of the frequency of the other Prepositions work out thus : eis, -64; ek, -34; epi, -32; pros, -25; dia, -24; apo, -24; kata, -17; meta, -17; peri, -12; hupo, -8; para, -7; huper, -54; sun, -48; pro, -18; anti, -08; and ana, -045.


J.
 
When we left eden (in the other reality)
we were no longer IN Christ
for we were now in a foreign land.

Cosmologically and literally. not metaphorically.

sure, as a soul we can try to stay in Him
which is the meaning as paul recounts
of dying to this earth
and to the vile (Php 3:21) body...
and follow Him

the point is our soul to avoid the evil realm
nature all around her
which is sin and death
and choose instead Christ
who is life
 
It is more important that Christ be "in you."
'Who now rejoice in my sufferings for you,
and fill up that which is behind of the afflictions of Christ
in my flesh for His body's sake, which is the church:
Whereof I am made a minister,
according to the dispensation of God
which is given to me for you,
to fulfil the word of God;
Even the mystery
which hath been hid from ages and from generations,
but now is made manifest to His saints:
To Whom God would make known
what is the riches of the glory of this mystery
among the Gentiles;
which is Christ in
you (in singly, or among collectively?),
the hope of glory:'

(Col 1:24-27)

Praise God!
 
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QUOTE: "among the Gentiles; which is Christ in you..."

RESPONSE: The only interpretation of "Gentiles" can only mean Hellenized Jews who grew up in Gentile lands (majority of Hebrews who did not return with Nehemiah and the remnant Hebrews) heavily influenced by Greek culture. These Hellenized Hebrews are the subject of the Jerusalem Council's solution of instructing these Hebrews circumcision was not necessary for salvation but only that they observe four precepts of the Law of Moses to "That ye abstain from meats offered to idols, and from blood, and from things strangled, and from fornication: (Acts 15:29.)

It would be unconscionable for the Jews conducting the council to instruct "non-Hebrew Gentiles" (if they were non-Hebrew) to obedience of the Law of Moses. Such a ruling would bring an uproar upon Jewry, cause riots, and the council leadership lose all credentials/credence among the people. No Jew would ever cause any non-Hebrew Gentile to obey the Law of Moses since none of them can claim to be a member of the twelve tribes of Israel to whom Moses gave the Law for the children of Israel to obey.
 
Which would mean one is 'in Christ'.
Yes if Christ is in you the hope of Glory then that person is also in Christ. One cannot be born of the Spirit and not be in Christ. Romans 8 makes it perfectly clear as does Ephesians 1.
 
abide, abide, abide...

If you live in Me [abide vitally united to Jesus] and My words remain in you and continue to live in your hearts, ask whatever you will, and it shall be done for you.
John 15:7.

When we abide in Christ, our prayers are effective , we glorify God in our fruit bearing , we demonstrate our discipleship , and our joy becomes full through experiencing Christ’s own joy within us
 
abide, abide, abide...

If you live in Me [abide vitally united to Jesus] and My words remain in you and continue to live in your hearts, ask whatever you will, and it shall be done for you.
John 15:7.

When we abide in Christ, our prayers are effective , we glorify God in our fruit bearing , we demonstrate our discipleship , and our joy becomes full through experiencing Christ’s own joy within us
Be careful some may think you are talking about being saved by works lol. wink wink
 
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