The unending requirement of faith

[TomL]

Friend you cant be saved by keeping the Law, you have been deceived. Paul says nothing about Faith being a requirement for Salvation in 1 Cor 1:21

There is nothing about law here

1 Corinthians 1:21 (KJV 1900) — 21 For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe.

 

[brightfame52]

There is nothing about law here

1 Corinthians 1:21 (KJV 1900) — 21 For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe.

Friend you cant be saved by keeping the Law, you have been deceived. Paul says nothing about Faith being a requirement for Salvation in 1 Cor 1:21

 

[TomL]

Friend you cant be saved by keeping the Law, you have been deceived. Paul says nothing about Faith being a requirement for Salvation in 1 Cor 1:21

There is still nothing about law here

1 Corinthians 1:21 (KJV 1900) — 21 For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe.

 

[brightfame52]

There is still nothing about law here

1 Corinthians 1:21 (KJV 1900) — 21 For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe.

Friend you cant be saved by keeping the Law, you have been deceived. Paul says nothing about Faith being a requirement for Salvation in 1 Cor 1:21

 

[TomL]

Friend you cant be saved by keeping the Law, you have been deceived. Paul says nothing about Faith being a requirement for Salvation in 1 Cor 1:21

Can you point out where law is mentioned here?



1 Corinthians 1:21 (KJV 1900) — 21 For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe.

 

[civic]

Can you point out where law is mentioned here?



1 Corinthians 1:21 (KJV 1900) — 21 For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe.

No he cannot in the same way he can’t with his eternal justification and salvation doctrines

 

[brightfame52]

Can you point out where law is mentioned here?



1 Corinthians 1:21 (KJV 1900) — 21 For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe.

I didnt say it was mentioned there, I mentioned it earlier in showing why making Faith a requirement for salvation is law keeping. Also I see nothing about a requirement being mentioned in 1 Cor 1:21 do you ?

 

[TomL]

I didnt say it was mentioned there, I mentioned it earlier in showing why making Faith a requirement for salvation is law keeping. Also I see nothing about a requirement being mentioned in 1 Cor 1:21 do you ?

So then you are just diverting and don't know what you are talking about

faith is not law keeping

Romans 4:1–5 (ESV) — 1 What then shall we say was gained by Abraham, our forefather according to the flesh? 2 For if Abraham was justified by works, he has something to boast about, but not before God. 3 For what does the Scripture say? “Abraham believed God, and it was counted to him as righteousness.” 4 Now to the one who works, his wages are not counted as a gift but as his due. 5 And to the one who does not work but believes in him who justifies the ungodly, his faith is counted as righteousness,

and god still saves those thast believe

1 Corinthians 1:21 (KJV 1900) — 21 For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe.

 

[TomL]

No he cannot in the same way he can’t with his eternal justification and salvation doctrines

So he just touts what he favors

 

[civic]

So he just touts what he favors

As you know loyalty to a doctrinal belief can be blinding especially when it takes precedence over all the scriptures that contradict the doctrine.

 

[TomL]

As you know loyalty to a doctrinal belief can be blinding especially when it takes precedence over all the scriptures that contradict the doctrine.

Yep and he has a lot of loyalty to those doctrines.

 

[Peterlag]

Proof of this is found throughout the Scriptures. However, in my opinion there probably isn't a better example of this than Paul's argument found concerning the work of faith in his own life in "pleasing God" in Philippians chapter 3.

1. "being found IN HIM"....
Php 3:9 And be found in him, not having mine own righteousness, which is of the law, but that which is through the faith of Christ, the righteousness which is of God by faith:

2. The clear desire of faith defined.... "That I may know Him".
Php 3:10 That I may know him, and the power of his resurrection, and the fellowship of his sufferings, being made conformable unto his death;


3. The need for a life of sincere faith to "ATTAIN THE RESURRECTION OF THE DEAD"...
Php 3:11 If by any means I might attain unto the resurrection of the dead.

The same is expressed in Hebrews 11:13 "DIED IN FAITH"....

Heb 11:13 These all died in faith, not having received the promises,

Clearly......Endless faith is a requirement to "ATTAIN THE RESURRECTION OF THE DEAD".....

Notice I didn't say anything about sin. Faith is required to trust God for the continuing forgiveness of sin... Faith men ask for forgiveness for their failures.

4. the trial of faith establishes the "sort of faith" we have. .

1Co 3:11 For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ.
1Co 3:12 Now if any man build upon this foundation gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, stubble;
1Co 3:13 Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is.

1Pe 4:12 Beloved, think it not strange concerning the fiery trial which is to try you, as though some strange thing happened unto you:

Faith is not established upon works but there IS... the work of faith that establishes sort of trust that every individual has in this life.

Since you open this thread using the first verse about the faith of Christ. I will give you what I believe it is. The faith of Jesus Christ is the relationship existing between God and Christ in the bond of the covenant between them. To recognize and acknowledge the relationship God has entered into with Christ, we must first understand that God is the originator of the covenant relationship, and God is the one who brings into being things that did not previously exist. This is His oath, His covenant, and He can be relied on to keep His part of the contract because He guarantees it, and this is His truth. Jesus Christ is the only begotten Son who is expressing the acknowledgment of his Father’s promises and power. The faith Christ has is his faith because of his acknowledgment and acceptance of his Father’s new covenant. Thus, the “gospel of Christ” is born. This faith Jesus Christ has is solid because it's the trust Jesus Christ has with God, who brought him into this special relationship that created the bond of the new covenant between them.

 

[TomL]

Since you open this thread using the first verse about the faith of Christ.

Um Is this not the first verse to carry the phrase "faith of Christ"

Galatians 2:16 (KJV 1900) — 16 Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.

 

[civic]

Since you open this thread using the first verse about the faith of Christ. I will give you what I believe it is. The faith of Jesus Christ is the relationship existing between God and Christ in the bond of the covenant between them. To recognize and acknowledge the relationship God has entered into with Christ, we must first understand that God is the originator of the covenant relationship, and God is the one who brings into being things that did not previously exist. This is His oath, His covenant, and He can be relied on to keep His part of the contract because He guarantees it, and this is His truth. Jesus Christ is the only begotten Son who is expressing the acknowledgment of his Father’s promises and power. The faith Christ has is his faith because of his acknowledgment and acceptance of his Father’s new covenant. Thus, the “gospel of Christ” is born. This faith Jesus Christ has is solid because it's the trust Jesus Christ has with God, who brought him into this special relationship that created the bond of the new covenant between them.

Where does the Bible say Jesus had faith ?

 

[brightfame52]

So then you are just diverting and don't know what you are talking about

faith is not law keeping

Romans 4:1–5 (ESV) — 1 What then shall we say was gained by Abraham, our forefather according to the flesh? 2 For if Abraham was justified by works, he has something to boast about, but not before God. 3 For what does the Scripture say? “Abraham believed God, and it was counted to him as righteousness.” 4 Now to the one who works, his wages are not counted as a gift but as his due. 5 And to the one who does not work but believes in him who justifies the ungodly, his faith is counted as righteousness,

and god still saves those thast believe

1 Corinthians 1:21 (KJV 1900) — 21 For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe.

making Faith a requirement for salvation is law keeping.

 

[TomL]

making Faith a requirement for salvation is law keeping.

Nope

faith is not law keeping

Romans 4:1–5 (ESV) — 1 What then shall we say was gained by Abraham, our forefather according to the flesh? 2 For if Abraham was justified by works, he has something to boast about, but not before God. 3 For what does the Scripture say? “Abraham believed God, and it was counted to him as righteousness.” 4 Now to the one who works, his wages are not counted as a gift but as his due. 5 And to the one who does not work but believes in him who justifies the ungodly, his faith is counted as righteousness,

and god still saves those thast believe

1 Corinthians 1:21 (KJV 1900) — 21 For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe.

 

[brightfame52]

Nope

faith is not law keeping

Romans 4:1–5 (ESV) — 1 What then shall we say was gained by Abraham, our forefather according to the flesh? 2 For if Abraham was justified by works, he has something to boast about, but not before God. 3 For what does the Scripture say? “Abraham believed God, and it was counted to him as righteousness.” 4 Now to the one who works, his wages are not counted as a gift but as his due. 5 And to the one who does not work but believes in him who justifies the ungodly, his faith is counted as righteousness,

and god still saves those thast believe

1 Corinthians 1:21 (KJV 1900) — 21 For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe.

making Faith a requirement for salvation is law keeping.

 

[TomL]

making Faith a requirement for salvation is law keeping.

Nope

faith is not law keeping

Romans 4:1–5 (ESV) — 1 What then shall we say was gained by Abraham, our forefather according to the flesh? 2 For if Abraham was justified by works, he has something to boast about, but not before God. 3 For what does the Scripture say? “Abraham believed God, and it was counted to him as righteousness.” 4 Now to the one who works, his wages are not counted as a gift but as his due. 5 And to the one who does not work but believes in him who justifies the ungodly, his faith is counted as righteousness,

and god still saves those thast believe

1 Corinthians 1:21 (KJV 1900) — 21 For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe.

 

[brightfame52]

Nope

faith is not law keeping

Romans 4:1–5 (ESV) — 1 What then shall we say was gained by Abraham, our forefather according to the flesh? 2 For if Abraham was justified by works, he has something to boast about, but not before God. 3 For what does the Scripture say? “Abraham believed God, and it was counted to him as righteousness.” 4 Now to the one who works, his wages are not counted as a gift but as his due. 5 And to the one who does not work but believes in him who justifies the ungodly, his faith is counted as righteousness,

and god still saves those thast believe

1 Corinthians 1:21 (KJV 1900) — 21 For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe.

making Faith a requirement for salvation is law keeping.

 

[Peterlag]

Where does the Bible say Jesus had faith ?

Romans 3:22
Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ...

Galatians 2:16
Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ...

Galatians 3:22
But the scripture hath concluded all under sin, that the promise by faith of Jesus Christ...

Philippians 3:9
And be found in him, not having mine own righteousness, which is of the law, but that which is through the faith of Christ...