The Trinity study ,plural references to God in the Old Testament:Plural nouns, pronouns, verbs, adverbs

[Runningman]

Since you seem to show awareness of how to count, that's good to know. How many persons are you counting as God in 1 Corinthians 8:4-6? 1 or 3?

 

[FreeInChrist]

While elohim is a plural, it doesn't refer to numerical quantity. It is almost invariably joined with singular attributes, not only with God, but with others who are not God because God is one person just as much as anyone else is one person. God is always called a He, Him, His, I, You because He's one person known as the Father (YHWH). Don't over think it.

No one denies that God the Father is one .

God is a title. Therefore...

God the Son is one and God the Holy Spirit is one.

And that is how you get 3 in one. No over thinking at all.

 

[atpollard]

There are no plural references to Jehovah God in his inspired word, the Judeo-Christian Bible.

None at all! ... EXCEPT FOR ALL THESE FROM THE OP:

A. Two plural pronouns, (Us, Our) used 6 different times in four different passages. Remember the word God (elohim) is also plural every time it is used in the Old Testament. Gen 11:7 also includes a plural verb (confuse) which even further, through grammar reinforces the plural "elohim" and the plural pronoun US.​

1. "Our" Gen 1:26
2. "Us" Gen 1:26; 3:22; 11:7; Isa 6:8

B. These are the four passages where God speaks for Himself and uses plural pronouns:​

1. "Then God [plural elohim] said, "Let Us [plural pronoun] make man in Our [plural pronoun] image, according to Our [plural pronoun] likeness" Genesis 1:26
2. "Then Yahweh God [plural elohim] said, "Behold, the man has become like one of Us [plural pronoun], knowing good and evil" Genesis 3:22
3. "Come, let Us [plural pronoun] go down and there confuse [plural form of balal] their language, so that they will not understand one another's speech." Genesis 11:7
4. "Then I heard the voice of the Lord [plural elohim], saying, "Whom shall I send, and who will go for Us [plural pronoun]?"" Isaiah 6:8

So the "Alter2Ego bible" is missing the following verses:

• Genesis: 1:26; 3:22; 11:7
• Isaiah 6:8

 

[atpollard]

FYI: Steven Rubb is a rabid Trinitarian. Not surprisingly, the Hamilton Church of Christ where he has served for 30+ years as a full-time minister accepts the nonsensical teaching of a 3-prong god, as noted below.

"ad hominem"

An ad hominem fallacy is a logical error where someone attacks an opponent's character, motive, or personal attributes instead of addressing the substance of their argument. Latin for "to the person," this tactic aims to discredit an argument by undermining the speaker rather than engaging with evidence.

Key aspects of the ad hominem fallacy include:

• Definition: Shifting focus away from the topic to personal attacks (e.g., calling someone a "numbskull" instead of addressing their claim).
• Types:
  • Abusive: Direct insults or attacks on character.
  • Circumstantial: Suggesting a person’s argument is invalid due to their circumstances or personal interest.
  • Tu Quoque: Discrediting an argument by pointing out hypocrisy, or claiming the speaker is guilty of what they are criticizing.
• Purpose: It is used to divert attention from the real issue and manipulate the audience into rejecting an argument based on irrelevance.
• Why it's a Fallacy: A person's character or personal traits have no inherent bearing on the logic or evidence of their argument.

 

[Runningman]

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No one denies that God the Father is one .

God is a title. Therefore...

God the Son is one and God the Holy Spirit is one.

And that is how you get 3 in one. No over thinking at all.

But God is referred to with singular personal pronouns, exhaustively, and without exception from cover to cover, thousands of times, but never a they or them. In all languages and cultures throughout the history of human civilization, singular pronouns always refer to one person. Hence God is explicitly defined as one person, not just in pronouns only, but also explicitly identified as the Father alone.

This debate quickly moves from the Bible into the realm of English grammar. That's a debate you'll lose. I hope you weren't thinking you can somehow change English just to suit your religion.

Don't overthink it.