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Which teachers ? Can you elaborateI have been mad for 10 years since I found out my teachers were wrong.
Which teachers ? Can you elaborateI have been mad for 10 years since I found out my teachers were wrong.
Is that because you can't forgive them (Ephesians 4:32 AV), or won't?I have been mad for 10 years since I found out my teachers were wrong.
That is the same way we are to be seen. If people see us they see Jesus. Same context.“Whoever has seen me has seen the Father.” The consistent theme throughout the book of John is that Jesus reveals God the Father to the world. This simple truth demonstrates that Jesus is someone different from God. Many Trinitarian believers see equivalence between Jesus and God in the Gospel of John, however the author seeks to show how Jesus reveals the Father, not how Jesus is the Father. Knowing this helps us understand what Jesus means by phrases like, “whoever has seen me has seen the Father,” (John 14:9) and “I am in union with the Father and the Father is in union with me” (John 14:11). Neither of these phrases states that Jesus is the Father, nor should they be understood that way. Rather, these verses, when properly seen in light of the rest of the Gospel, demonstrate that God was working so powerfully through Jesus and Jesus was demonstrating God’s character so clearly that when one looked at Jesus, it was as if you were looking at the Father.
Yes, I remember those days. I put you on ignore back then, but now you're an angel.It’s true with everyone who draws a line in the sand regardless of which side one is on in the debate.
I was a hard nosed Calvinist for many decades and debated it daily online. Not until God opened up my eyes and I started asking honest questions about God was I led out of that theological system of thought. No one could tell me otherwise before that because I had my presuppositions I defended at all costs.
Jesus is the embodiment of all three.Trinitarians don’t believe He is the Father but distinct as a Divine Person. They are One but not each other. So we can affirm He came to reveal the Father and His will without a problem in our theology.
Yes I was not very nice to you and I’m very ashamed about the way I treated you back then. But praise Jesus who changed my mind, heart and allowed me to change. Even though we may still disagree with each other on some issues I can love you the way Christ asks me to. I’m glad you are here and that we have been reconciled in Christ. Amen sisterYes, I remember those days. I put you on ignore back then, but now you're an angel.
Then does it make me God if I say those who have seen me have seen God?That is the same way we are to be seen. If people see us they see Jesus. Same context.
Read what I wrote again. It does not say I was mad at them.Is that because you can't forgive them (Ephesians 4:32 AV), or won't?
No I can't because once I do then every word I speak after that will be used against me wherever someone can find fault with my teachers. Even if I left that group many years ago.Which teachers ? Can you elaborate
If your teachers are Trinitarians they were right. One should never be angry at the truth. It profits nothing to continue to be angry at the truth.I have been mad for 10 years since I found out my teachers were wrong.
You are being mislead. There is 0 equality.Equals the Father/ Son in Eternal Life 17:3
Equals the Father/ Son exist together before creation - 17:5
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The Israelites NEVER served a trinity God-They served the true God.Jesus is speaking against the Pagan Greek Polytheists. The Pagan Greeks were not Trinitarians. Learn some history. Run away from teachers who despise history.
Since Christ is Divine (John 8:58), the true God is Trinitarian.The Israelites NEVER served a trinity God-They served the true God.
Ok no worriesNo I can't because once I do then every word I speak after that will be used against me wherever someone can find fault with my teachers. Even if I left that group many years ago.
The Israelites followed all sorts of gods but sometimes followed the true triune God as we now have been taught. The prophecies of sending the Messiah were in the context of ending the transgressions of Israel. It was a mystery that the benefits through Christ became available to all peoples.The Israelites NEVER served a trinity God-They served the true God.
It is an all-too-common assumption that the concept of the Trinity is a purely Christian idea. But the idea of a God being a three-in-one unity actually has its roots in foundational Judaism and in the Hebrew Scriptures. Even the concept of the Holy Spirit, the Ruach Ha-kodesh, originates in the Hebrew Scriptures—as early as Genesis 1.The Israelites followed all sorts of gods but sometimes followed the true triune God as we now have been taught. The prophecies of sending the Messiah were in the context of ending the transgressions of Israel. It was a mystery that the benefits through Christ became available to all peoples.
Being divine doesn't make him God. He is Gods image. Gods son, he has a God-John 20:17, Rev 3:12--God does not have a God.Since Christ is Divine (John 8:58), the true God is Trinitarian.
Israel-NEVER served the true God as a trinity-EVER.The Israelites followed all sorts of gods but sometimes followed the true triune God as we now have been taught. The prophecies of sending the Messiah were in the context of ending the transgressions of Israel. It was a mystery that the benefits through Christ became available to all peoples.
The video contained in the link below is an excellent introduction to the Pre-Incarnate Christ as He manifested Himself in the Old Testament. All cults have no idea what to do with this Biblical fact. I'm sure it's the same with your JW cult.Being divine doesn't make him God. He is Gods image. Gods son, he has a God-John 20:17, Rev 3:12--God does not have a God.
wow. you have a worse view of the Israel people than I imagined.Israel-NEVER served the true God as a trinity-EVER.