The Trinity and all of its supporting doctrines are all circular in reasoning

[amazing grace]

Thank you for making my point for me, even though you still cannot see what that point is; smh.

you're welcome.

Precisely. You say that the Father was never conceived or born, and then you say that a person is not a real person if they have not been conceived or born, but then you claim that the Father is a real person. You are confused, even within your own doctrine.

Whatever you are talking about find it and repost what I said please.
I said God was never conceived or born.
I said God was Spirit.
That is scriptural.

He was God (John 1:1). He was "I AM" (John 8:58).

Nope. If he was he was the Father.

Of course not; that is part of what makes Jesus unique.

What makes Jesus unique is being the Son of God via the virgin conception and birth.

Of course He is the Logos of John 1:1, because John 1:14 tells us that the Logos took on flesh and lived as a man, and then it tells us that John came leading the way for Him, and then John identifies Jesus as the One for whom he is leading the way.

Yes, John 1:14 tells us that the logos became flesh in the Son from the Father, i.e. Jesus.

The Logos of God (which is God) is responsible for the creation of everything that was made. That means that the Logos of God CANNOT be a created thing. Wisdom is a created thing. That means there is no correlation between the two.

See above, no "reading into" necessary.

Jesus is the Logos of God. The Logos of God is responsible for the creation of everything that was made. Therefore, Jesus is responsible for Creation.

keep telling yourself that, if it makes your nonsense easier to swallow.

No, I am not. God was the one speaking through the Burning Bush (Exo 3:4). And from the Bush, God said His name is "I AM!". Jesus says He is "I AM!" in John 8:58. Thus, it was Jesus speaking to Moses from the Bush.

Yahweh is the Father ...... If Jesus is saying he is I AM at John 8:58, He's referring to himself as Yahweh and therefore also the Father.

Then you don't understand Scripture very well.

The problem with that is what YOU are READING INTO the text. You can't stand the fact that Thomas called Jesus "God", and so you have to rationalize it in your mind to twist what Scripture says and assume that you knew what Thomas was thinking almost 2000 years ago. You can't take Scripture at its word and believe what it literally says, because as I have pointed out that would destroy your whole false doctrine on who you think Jesus is.

I don't have to read anything into the text. I let scripture interpret scripture.
Jesus is NOT God and has never been God.
The God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, the God of Jacob is the God of our Lord Jesus Christ and Jesus ain't Him.
Jesus is a descendant of Abraham, a member of the tribe of Judah, a lineal descendant of David ---- God is NOT.