There is never wrath between the Godhead. You truly are making is have you stopped beating your wife question. If what you mean there was no wrath express by God before creation and that wrath only pertains to this creation you are wrong. The creation of our world was not the beginning of creation either. But here are the scriptures that prove you wrong.
If you really believe what you just claimed then Jesus did not suffer Gods wrath on the cross. So you just denied a core tenant of calvinism- Penal Substitution theory of the Atonement.
Justice us the act of being just. God has always been Just.
Do you believe that Jesus was Son of man on the cross? God's wrath against sin came against Jesus' flesh----instead of our flesh. So no, we are not in agreement. Go back and review your "own" hypostatic union treatise and stop mixing the two natures of Jesus together when it is convenient.
Justice means conforming to the law. There was no law in eternity past.
The Person of Christ is Divine, the Eternal Son, the 2nd Person of the Trinity on the cross. Nice try though.
You forgot this part of the post.
Is it too painful to admit that you ever make a mistake or when you are shown to have made one?
I don't forget anything I post since PSA is a false doctrine I oppose as it divides the Trinity and makes God unjust .
God is a law unto Himself. Everything about Him is law for us. Justice does not mean conforming to the law. Justice is administrating and judging rightly. And learn the difference between being just and bringing about justice instead of using the word justice when just is what is correct.
That has nothing to do with the scriptures I gave about God's wrath being exerted before the foundation of our world. I can always tell when you get into water over your head. I'll give you a break for now but will expect better of you as to addressing the actual content of posts tomorrow. I need a break myself and Boaz needs my attention,
Injustice was served in PSA from the Father to the Son since He was Holy, Righteous and Sinless . It was unjust . It’s the exact opposite of what the Bible teaches . The Just One died for the unjust.
God doesn’t change but you have God changing . He is the same yesterday today and forever. Immutable.
But then again Calvinists are unfair, mean and lacking in Christian charity at times so at times its NOT whining but at times a true observation. The same can be said of the other side as well.
There's people walking in a carnal way on BOTH sides. So how about we just leave it at that?
Nope don't buy this. Not totally anyway. The way one frames their debate and with what words create effect at how readers should consider those who would challenge your points. It should be all of our intent to strive to give people the benefit of the doubt that they're not accusing people with malicious intent and to lean towards saying those who don't agree with you are hurling things. I'd encourage words like you are being put to the challenge with spirited debate, but you of course can do what you want.
God can be wroth. He is wroth at the
Yes and most ( not all ) calvinists I have interacted online with resort to ad hominem attacks. I attack the argument, doctrine not the person. They will conflate/equivocate saying I'm attacking them because they are calvinists. I'm not doing that but opposing the calvinist teaching of tulip, sovereignty, election etc......
