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There is God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit. God can mean any One of them or all of them.half right, but why do you say the voice from heaven was God voice?
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There is God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit. God can mean any One of them or all of them.half right, but why do you say the voice from heaven was God voice?
101G.
but where in the bible it says that the voice at the Lord Jesus baptism was God's voice, book chapter, and verse please...... or did you just assume it was God voice?There is God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit. God can mean any One of them or all of them.
John 3:34 indicates that Jesus operated in the Holy Spirit WITHOUT MEASURE (without limitation). So OF COURSE He did a lot of things that only GOD could do - because God was DOING THEM. Jesus, in His PHYSICAL time, Walked in the power of the Holy Spirit, like humans were meant to do. He was bound, when He was present with us, with the limits of HUMANITY. He did miraculous things Through the power of God that operated through Him.Wasn't Jesus during his physical presence here still fully God plus fully man? He certainly did a lot of things that only God could do. Raise the dead, cure incurable diseases like leprosy. Forgive sins, restore eyesight to the blind. Make lame men walk. Seems like knowing that Nathaniel was under a tree would be a minor task for the King of Kings and Lord of Lords.
God was doing them because Jesus is God. As the words of Jesus show us in John 10:30, “I and the Father are one.” Jesus was claiming—deity.John 3:34 indicates that Jesus operated in the Holy Spirit WITHOUT MEASURE (without limitation). So OF COURSE He did a lot of things that only GOD could do - because God was DOING THEM. Jesus, in His PHYSICAL time, Walked in the power of the Holy Spirit, like humans were meant to do. He was bound, when He was present with us, with the limits of HUMANITY. He did miraculous things Through the power of God that operated through Him.
Yup, no problem. Jesus, however, AS A HUMAN MAN, was bound by the Limits of physical humanity, and did what He did through the Holy Spirit in God's power. He's NOT "bound by the flesh" any longer.God was doing them because Jesus is God. As the words of Jesus show us in John 10:30, “I and the Father are one.” Jesus was claiming—deity.
But He is still a glorified man having a glorified human body right ?Yup, no problem. Jesus, however, AS A HUMAN MAN, was bound by the Limits of physical humanity, and did what He did through the Holy SPirit in God's power. He's NOT "bound by the flesh" any longer.
That's my understanding. WE WILL BE LIKE HIM when we see him as he is. I.e. We'll have Glorified human bodies (whatever that entails) then also.But He is still a glorified man having a glorified human body right ?
Amen !That's my understanding. WE WILL BE LIKE HIM when we see him as he is. I.e. We'll have Glorified human bodies (whatever that entails) then also.
NOT GLORIFIED IN HUMAN FLESH, ONLY UPON THE RESURRECTION,But He is still a glorified man having a glorified human body right ?
How is what I said any different ?NOT GLORIFIED IN HUMAN FLESH, ONLY UPON THE RESURRECTION,
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YES, BUT "CHANGED", listen, 1 Corinthians 15:35 "But some man will say, How are the dead raised up? and with what body do they come?" 1 Corinthians 15:36 "Thou fool, that which thou sowest is not quickened, except it die:" 1 Corinthians 15:37 "And that which thou sowest, thou sowest not that body that shall be, but bare grain, it may chance of wheat, or of some other grain:"How is what I said any different ?
Jesus Glorified body was still human with the scars to prove it was the same body that was in the tomb resurrected back to life again.
Yes that is what glorified means it was changed from mortal to immortal, from perishable to imperishable and from corruptible to incorruptible,YES, BUT "CHANGED", listen, 1 Corinthians 15:35 "But some man will say, How are the dead raised up? and with what body do they come?" 1 Corinthians 15:36 "Thou fool, that which thou sowest is not quickened, except it die:" 1 Corinthians 15:37 "And that which thou sowest, thou sowest not that body that shall be, but bare grain, it may chance of wheat, or of some other grain:"
that body that came out May cannot walk through locked doors and appear and disappear at will..... (smile). not that body that came out of Mary. Oh yes it bare the scares from the cross. but you can drop an atomic bomb on it .... NOW, Not a scratch... (smile).
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naturalNow you're cooking with gas.... (smile).
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Although on the road to Emmaus, you'd think that the SCARS would have been a clue to his fellow travelers, unless they only showed when Jesus wanted them to. His Glorified human body could do neat tricks.How is what I said any different ?
Jesus Glorified body was still human with the scars to prove it was the same body that was in the tomb resurrected back to life again.
Yes but I'm not completely sure we will have the same ability because He is also God.Although on the road to Emmaus, you'd think that the SCARS would have been a clue to his fellow travelers, unless they only showed when Jesus wanted them to. His Glorified human body could do neat tricks.
Time will tell -Yes but I'm not completely sure we will have the same ability because He is also God.
I can’t wait this one’s getting old and tired lolTime will tell -
Yup - I just had a "nerve block" Thursday, which had to show 80% improvement to qualify for Nerve Ablation - but it didn't. Oh well, there's always Tramadol.I can’t wait this one’s getting old and tired lol
Praying for you brother.Yup - I just had a "nerve block" Thursday, which had to show 80% improvement to qualify for Nerve Ablation - but it didn't. Oh well, there's always Tramadol.