The Jewishness of the Christian Faith
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jeremiah1five
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Your earlier posts are in error. You are infected by Constantinian Gentile theologies that seek to replace what is Hebrew and Jewish with Gentile. You believe Gentiles were under the Law in contradiction to Scripture that says only the Hebrew people led out of their Egyptian bondage by Moses are the seed of Abraham.
God made covenant with the Hebrew people in the desert at Mount Sinai, and this is recorded in Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, and Deuteronomy.
You can show me in the Old Testament where God made covenant with non-Hebrew Gentiles, tell me the terms of this covenant, and the name of the Gentile that represented the Gentiles as Abraham represented the Hebrew people to be born from him.
That's all. Show me in the Old Testament where God made covenant with non-Hebrew Gentiles. Show me from the Old Testament when the high priest after praying and offering blood sacrifices for the children of Israel he leaves and goes to non-Hebrew Gentiles in Gentile land and prays for them and offers sacrifices every year for their sins as he does for the children of Israel.
You either provide Scripture and verse or everything you say is chatter and worse.
jeremiah1five
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Scripture please.
Galatians 3:29
And if you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham’s descendants, heirs according to promise.
Pointing BACK TO:
Genesis 17:19
19 Then God said: “No, Sarah your wife shall bear you a son, and you shall call his name Isaac; I will establish My covenant with him for an everlasting covenant, and with his descendants after him.
We as Gentiles Christians are spiritual heirs to God’s promises to Abraham.
In Romans 11
We are grafted onto the Israel of God as wild (non-Jew Branches). The broken off natural branches are grafted BACK ON to the Israel of God.
The Israel of God are His People, His olive tree.
Jeremiah 11:16
The LORD called thy name, A green olive tree, fair, and of goodly fruit: with the noise of a great tumult he hath kindled fire upon it, and the branches of it are broken.
And if you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham’s descendants, heirs according to promise.
Pointing BACK TO:
Genesis 17:19
19 Then God said: “No, Sarah your wife shall bear you a son, and you shall call his name Isaac; I will establish My covenant with him for an everlasting covenant, and with his descendants after him.
We as Gentiles Christians are spiritual heirs to God’s promises to Abraham.
In Romans 11
We are grafted onto the Israel of God as wild (non-Jew Branches). The broken off natural branches are grafted BACK ON to the Israel of God.
The Israel of God are His People, His olive tree.
Jeremiah 11:16
The LORD called thy name, A green olive tree, fair, and of goodly fruit: with the noise of a great tumult he hath kindled fire upon it, and the branches of it are broken.
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FreeInChrist
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And it is the only important thing!!!
atpollard
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Proof that God can use ANYONE!Jesus and Paul were Jews and most of the NT is their words
jeremiah1five
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Saul was writing to Jews who were "under the Law" and "under a schoolmaster" (the Law.)
Stop taking things Hebrew and making them Gentile. You end up with false doctrine and understanding.
You quote the Scripture then you reject it. God says above, "I will establish my covenant with him (Isaac) for an everlasting covenant AND WITH HIS DESCENDANTS after him."
What part of "HIS DESCENDANTS" do you not understand. The covenant is biological. Natural Olive tree Israel became spiritual Olive tree Israel when the Holy Spirit baptized three thousand Jews into the body of Christ on the day of the Jewish Feast of Harvest recorded in Acts 2.
Nowhere in the Old Testament does God call Gentiles "Olive tree." Israel is the Olive tree. And like it says in Jeremiah the branches that were broken off for disobedience were grafted back in. Nothing in Jeremiah's words even remotely refer to Gentiles. You are adding to the Bible.
16 The LORD called thy name, A green olive tree, fair, and of goodly fruit: with the noise of a great tumult he hath kindled fire upon it, and the branches of it are broken.
17 For the LORD of hosts, that planted thee, hath pronounced evil against thee, for the evil of the house of Israel and of the house of Judah, which they have done against themselves to provoke me to anger in offering incense unto Baal. Jeremiah 11:16–17.
Jeremiah is speaking to Jews of both the House of Israel and the House of Judah. So, which tribe do you belong? The ten northern kingdom tribes of Israel or the two southern kingdom tribes of Judah?
Which tribe were you born into?
Spiritual Descendants!!!!!’
Why don’t you just put me on ignore? I have never run into a more hardheaded cantankerous soul in my life. There is no point in debating you.
By the way I as a Gentile Christian am grafted onto God’s olive tree, spiritual Israel, per Romans 11. All of whom are spiritual decendants of Abraham. You seem to have problems with that word spiritual, just sayin’.
Good bye
Why don’t you just put me on ignore? I have never run into a more hardheaded cantankerous soul in my life. There is no point in debating you.
By the way I as a Gentile Christian am grafted onto God’s olive tree, spiritual Israel, per Romans 11. All of whom are spiritual decendants of Abraham. You seem to have problems with that word spiritual, just sayin’.
Good bye
