Is the Background of God's Word Greek or Jewish?

Okay.... but here I just found ....... and yes, salvation is of the Jews... Not Greeks or Gentiles....I agree after all @jeremiah1five has spent months convincing me of this.
ONe problem, Jeremiah1five believes all Greeks/Gentiles (non-Hebrew) are going to hell, no exceptions. Salvation is of the Jews, which is the same as saying, salvation is FROM the Jews. Paul said salvation is first to the Jews, then the Greeks/Gentiles. It is the same as when Jesus said it is bad to give the children's bread to the puppy dogs (proper translation of the greek word), and the woman said, those puppy dogs eat the crumbs that fall from the table. (Puppy dogs speaking of non-Hebrew Gentiles.) In this way salvation is for the whole world, but started with the Jews. That is exactly what you see in Acts. Pentecost was to the Jews, and non-Hebrew Gentile PROSELYTES. (That being a key word.) The receipt of the Holy Spirit by those of the upper room inaugurated the Jewish believers in Christ into the church. The Peter went to the Gentiles with Cornelius. All were non-Hebrew Gentiles, no matter what Jeremiah1five says. What did God do first? God had to have Peter overcome his internal beliefs/thoughts on the un-circumcised (non-Hebrew Gentiles) before sending Peter to speak to them. They received the Holy Spirit as Peter was speaking, inaugurating the non-Hebrew Gentiles into the church. They too have access to God by the same Spirit, as Peter basically put it. So the church is united, and one. Then came the Samaritans, however, scripture does not record that they spoke in tongues. Could it be because, since they were technically Jews, they were already considered part of the church? Then John disciples received the Holy Spirit and spoke in tongues, showing that they to, of John the Baptist's baptism, were part of the church. Everyone represented. And it all came from... the Jews.

Those who teach replacement theology point to the declining Jewish membership in churches, but that doesn't point to anything other than Paul's partial blindness that is upon Israel. There is no such partial blindness on the Gentiles. However, that partial blindness is only for a time, after which it will be removed, and ALL Israel (well, those who are still alive) will be saved. Which Paul says is like life from the dead, such does he see Israel's condition. It's like Israel is dead, but there will come that day when, miraculously life will come to Israel, when the giver of life reconciles with His wayward people. Paul puts it in such strong words and emotion. One can almost visualize it, it is so emphatic.
Now there are 2. And you are told in Matt that if two of you shall agree on earth as touching any thing ...... So after you read this following I wont bother you again.


Which Bibles translated from Greek used “Easter”?​

✔️ King James Version (1611) – English, translated from Greek​


  • Acts 12:4 → uses “Easter”

  • Greek word: πάσχα (pascha)

  • KJV: “…intending after Easter to bring him forth to the people.”
This is the only major Greek-to-English Bible that ever translated pascha as Easter in the text.

✔️ Earlier English Bibles translated from Greek that also used “Easter”​

All of these were based on the Greek New Testament:
TranslationDateLanguageUsed “Easter”?
Tyndale NT1526English✔️ (ester)
Coverdale Bible1535English✔️
Great Bible1539English✔️
Bishops’ Bible1568English✔️
King James Version1611English✔️
These all translated Greek pascha as Easter in Acts 12:4.

❌ Greek Bibles themselves never use “Easter”​

Every Greek manuscript and printed Greek New Testament says:

No ancient or modern Greek Bible uses a different word meaning “Easter” there — because the text itself is already Greek.
So:

  • Greek → Greek: always πάσχα

  • Greek → English:

    • KJV & early English Bibles = Easter

    • Modern English Bibles = Passover

Bottom Line​

Only English translations from Greek ever inserted “Easter.”
The Greek text itself never did.


That’s why Acts 12:4 is such a powerful example of tradition overriding translation
Antisemitism came into the church do to what the Jews had done to the Christians. (Jewish and non-Hebrew Gentile Christians). -I use Christians for what it came to mean, followers of Christ. All the Jews had to do was say that Christianity (the Way, as Josephus spoke of it) was a branch of Judaism. That's it. That is all they had to do. However, they refused, and as such "the Way" was an illegal religion in the Roman Empire, and down came the persecution. So some people in the church didn't really like the Jews. No real surprise from a worldly perspective, but no one should ever say that everyone in the church was saved, nor that everyone in the church was perfect. These kinds of thought poisoned the church against the Jews and it persisted for a very long time. All Paul told the non-Hebrew Gentiles was that the Jews were their enemies for the sake of the gospel. That is all. He never said that they are our enemies as people, or that they should be hated. Basically that they would be against believers because of the gospel. I would say that "for the sake of the gospel" is related to how Paul said that Israel rejected the gospel, and so the gospel went out to the non-Jewish Gentiles, and once the fulness of the Gentiles has come it, it will circle back to the JEws, and thus all Israel will be saved. He has locked up all in disobedience that He might have mercy on all.
 
Jesus did die on Friday. The above is an issue of not understanding how the Jews handled time. (According to Dr. Fruchtenbaum, a Messianic Jew)
Wrong. I need to find a paper I have written on this and post it.... probably closer to Passover Week because
I show when Jesus was crucified and how it happened that specific week in perfect time .

If I find it sooner I will post because if is an important subject and a long-term study of mine.

I am in the process of downsizing for a move in the next couple of months so things are upside down here... but I will
 
ONe problem, Jeremiah1five believes all Greeks/Gentiles (non-Hebrew) are going to hell, no exceptions.
Right.... He more or less told me that is my case and we even DMed a few times because he seems to delight in mentally casting (if I can paraphrase Matt 7-6) non-Hebraic Jews as being cast before swine.

Yet a couple weeks later he came at me again for being a "born-again" putting a born again brother on ignore that
the Father would so disapprove... or whatever his words were.

You have to take J1f with a grain of salt and not try to reason, for that is impossible... at least it was for me....

As for anti-Semitism.... There is no place for it in a Christian thought or word.

Israel was Gods chosen and they still are. The olive tree example is perfectly clear on that.

Jesus was/is Jewish.

Jesus was born from a Jewish girl.

Jesus' stepdad Joseph was Jewish.

Both Mary's and Joseph's blood lines trace back to David. (Differently but still there)

And Matt 15:24 But He answered and said, “I was sent only to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.”
So tell everyone, every where who were the chosen ones.... LONG BEFORE we were ever thought of.

NO ROOM FOR ANTISEMITISM WHEN our very eternity has spung from God's chosen.
 
I believe John 8:6 made the connection with Jesus' writing "with His finger" in Exodus 31:18 -When He had finished speaking with him upon Mount Sinai, He gave Moses the two tablets of the testimony, tablets of stone, written by the finger of God.

So I believe Jesus was writing the sins on the ground with His finger identifying Himself as God.
The theory of a comedian was He was writing the names of all their mistresses...
 
Wrong. I need to find a paper I have written on this and post it.... probably closer to Passover Week because
I show when Jesus was crucified and how it happened that specific week in perfect time .

If I find it sooner I will post because if is an important subject and a long-term study of mine.

I am in the process of downsizing for a move in the next couple of months so things are upside down here... but I will
The day Jesus was crucified fell on a specific day, which Fruchtenbaum shows and understands, and that was Friday. He also leans towards 30 AD, and that the only possible years, given the days/dates are 30 and 33 AD.
 
The day Jesus was crucified fell on a specific day, which Fruchtenbaum shows and understands, and that was Friday. He also leans towards 30 AD, and that the only possible years, given the days/dates are 30 and 33 AD.
30AD is probable.

Some dates show 20AD

All say 33AD is too late
 
Right.... He more or less told me that is my case and we even DMed a few times because he seems to delight in mentally casting (if I can paraphrase Matt 7-6) non-Hebraic Jews as being cast before swine.

Yet a couple weeks later he came at me again for being a "born-again" putting a born again brother on ignore that
the Father would so disapprove... or whatever his words were.

You have to take J1f with a grain of salt and not try to reason, for that is impossible... at least it was for me....

As for anti-Semitism.... There is no place for it in a Christian thought or word.

Israel was Gods chosen and they still are. The olive tree example is perfectly clear on that.

Jesus was/is Jewish.

Jesus was born from a Jewish girl.

Jesus' stepdad Joseph was Jewish.

Both Mary's and Joseph's blood lines trace back to David. (Differently but still there)

And Matt 15:24 But He answered and said, “I was sent only to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.”
So tell everyone, every where who were the chosen ones.... LONG BEFORE we were ever thought of.

NO ROOM FOR ANTISEMITISM WHEN our very eternity has spung from God's chosen.
I, when it comes ot Israel, am closer to John MacArthur's idea of the leaky dispensationalist. My eschatology is HEAVILY dispensational, but when it comes to the systematic system next to say, covenant theology, I don't have a position. If I have one, it is that a have a general dislike for systematic theologies. To rigid. It's nice that it is all laid out and thoroughly explained, it is not so nice if you disagree one one point and everyone yells HERETIC!!! Accept it all or none. I don't think there is a "perfect" theology out there, however, that doesn't mean you have to accept this one since it is closest, beleive any others and you are a heretic. I don't believe anyone has a monopoly on truth, though Benny Hinn and his ilk have a monopoly on false teaching. (And fit II Peter very well.)

While the antisemitism is "understandable", that is, the circumstances surrounding why it came into existence is, frankly, understandable, it isn't understandable from a godly standpoint, but worldly. It does to show that there is no such thing as a perfect Christian.

It absolutely is uncalled for. If it weren't for the Jews, there would be no salvation at all.

I fully agree. Salvation came first to the Jews, however, for God's mercy for the world, they rejected and God extended His salvation to the Gentiles. It's the wedding feast where the original invitees rejected, and the master sent out the servants to gather people off the streets, and when that wasn't enough, to go gather even more. Yet, how salvation is still God's choice, and still a matter of faith/belief, one anttendee was cast out for not even asking the master for proper wedding clothes, and showing up in improper clothing which insults the host. He could have asked.
 
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