Replacement Theology: What It Is and Why It Matters for Christians

[jeremiah1five]

IOW we are damned.... right?

Do you know your family history from the year 723 BC? Or from 588 BC right before the Babylonians captured Israel and exiled a great number of Jew back to Babylon?
My point is God made covenant/promises to Abraham that was extended to his son from his own loins and Sarah.
Later, God delivered nearly 3 million Jews out of Egyptian bondage and led them into the desert under Moses and then, later with Joshua? God made other promises to the Hebrew people and with that also gave them His Law to live by and under. Then, the prophet Jeremiah prophesied that the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob would establish a New Covenant with the House of Israel and the House of Judah at some future date. These are all promises God made to the Hebrew people and seed of Abraham. At the same time, we learn from Scripture God made no promises to any non-Hebrew people as God calls the Hebrew people His Chosen people "above all families of the earth."

You claim to be non-Hebrew, but do you really know if this is true? Do you know for sure that somewhere in your ancestry there is no Hebrew parent at all? If you are truly born-again and saved and have been given the Holy Spirit of Promise God through the prophet Joel promised to Israel (the Hebrews), then by virtue of God's unfailing promises to this people your salvation comes because there is a Hebrew somewhere in your ancestry. In order for God to save you there would have to be at least one Hebrew parent in your ancestry and all God is doing is keeping the promises He's made to Abraham and his biological seed. The Ark of the Covenant is strictly a Hebrew "relic" that contains at least three items that represent God's protection, provision, and leadership of the Hebrew people that no other people can claim as their own. Aren't the Hebrew Scripture of Law, Psalms, and Prophet's writings that record and describe God's relationship with a people He Himself has involved Himself with throughout nearly six thousand years of their history? What people on the face of the earth can claim such a relationship with Creator God as the Hebrew people has with the God of Israel? Do you actually believe that no time in Israel's history and after being scattered throughout the non-Hebrew Gentile world that there are no mixed-race Hebrews born to both Hebrew and Gentile parents, whether through rape, concubinage, marriage, or fornication, slavery and adultery? Every Jew in the world has never made union with any Gentile and all Jews only mated with other Jews of the twelve family tribes of Jacob in all history?
Do you actually believe that?

 

[FreeInChrist]

Do you know your family history from the year 723 BC? Or from 588 BC right before the Babylonians captured Israel and exiled a great number of Jew back to Babylon?

One side of my family traced back to 300 or so BC... but just were stupid Scandanavians.

My point is God made covenant/promises to Abraham that was extended to his son from his own loins and Sarah.

Your point is that no one knows, not even you so as you have told me before I basically am damned.

Later, God delivered nearly 3 million Jews out of Egyptian bondage and led them into the desert under Moses and then, later with Joshua? God made other promises to the Hebrew people and with that also gave them His Law to live by and under. Then, the prophet Jeremiah prophesied that the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob would establish a New Covenant with the House of Israel and the House of Judah at some future date. These are all promises God made to the Hebrew people and seed of Abraham. At the same time, we learn from Scripture God made no promises to any non-Hebrew people as God calls the Hebrew people His Chosen people "above all families of the earth."

You claim to be non-Hebrew, but do you really know if this is true? Do you know for sure that somewhere in your ancestry there is no Hebrew parent at all? If you are truly born-again and saved and have been given the Holy Spirit of Promise God through the prophet Joel promised to Israel (the Hebrews), then by virtue of God's unfailing promises to this people your salvation comes because there is a Hebrew somewhere in your ancestry.

give it a rest j1f.

In order for God to save you there would have to be at least one Hebrew parent in your ancestry and all God is doing is keeping the promises He's made to Abraham and his biological seed.

No way to know. Better to error on the side of damnation and then be pleasantly surprised then to count on it and find out you life was a lie.

The Ark of the Covenant is strictly a Hebrew "relic" that contains at least three items that represent God's protection, provision, and leadership of the Hebrew people that no other people can claim as their own. Aren't the Hebrew Scripture of Law, Psalms, and Prophet's writings that record and describe God's relationship with a people He Himself has involved Himself with throughout nearly six thousand years of their history? What people on the face of the earth can claim such a relationship with Creator God as the Hebrew people has with the God of Israel? Do you actually believe that no time in Israel's history and after being scattered throughout the non-Hebrew Gentile world that there are no mixed-race Hebrews born to both Hebrew and Gentile parents, whether through rape, concubinage, marriage, or fornication, slavery and adultery? Every Jew in the world has never made union with any Gentile and all Jews only mated with other Jews of the twelve family tribes of Jacob in all history?
Do you actually believe that?

More then likely I came from the Nephilim,. At 5' 1 3/4" tall they would call me a dwarf.... but hey??????

 

[jeremiah1five]

You are preaching a false-gospel and as such you will be Judged by it.

MESSIAH Says to you/me/everyone Two Critical Warnings: Matt 12:31-32 and Matt 12:35-37

"“Therefore I say to you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven men, but the blasphemy against the Ruach HaKodesh will not be forgiven men. Anyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man, it will be forgiven him; but whoever speaks against the Ruach HaKodesh, it will not be forgiven him, either in this age or in the age to come.

Your understanding of the blasphemy of the Holy Spirit is in error. It is not a sin of the tongue, but of the heart where everything that defiles reside and is expressed. It's an unforgivable sin that marks a person as being a person whom God will never save. Such a person alive while the Holy Spirit of Promise is in the world is not chosen to salvation by God and as such is an offense to the Holy Spirit whose ministry is to apply the salvation bought by the Son upon those elected to salvation. The Holy Spirit does not interfere with such persons never to be born again and saved. But their presence in the world alongside the Spirit is an offense to the Spirit because there is no salvation given to such non-elect persons. It's a sin that will never be forgiven in this world or the next that reveals itself in the tongue of the person of whose heart will never be circumcised. And that is the blasphemy expressed through the tongue of the condition of a heart never to be saved.

A good man out of the good treasure of his heart brings forth good things, and an evil man out of the evil treasure brings forth evil things. But I say to you that for every idle word men may speak, they will give account of it in the day of judgment.
For by your words you will be justified, and by your words you will be condemned.”


Your false-gospel comes from a evil heart for you are in defiance against Abraham, Moses and the Prophets.

The RUACH HaKODESH has this Final Warning to you and those who join in your rebellion against the One Gospel for all nations and the holy apostles of YHWH:

@jeremiah1five BETTER SERIOUSLY consider/THINK on that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation—as also our beloved brother Paul, according to the wisdom given to him, has written to you, as also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things, in which are some things hard to understand, which untaught and unstable people twist to their own destruction, as they do also the rest of the Scriptures.

There is a "book" of life that contains every name of the persons elected to salvation and not every person ever born is named there. Salvation is OF THE LORD - NOT of men. God decides who gets into heaven. God is not waiting around for men to accept Jesus because Scripture says men do not seek God, and unless God independently saves anyone all humanity will be lost. God is actively seeking out His people He's known through foreknowledge because He knows His people because He "wrote" the "book" of life. He wrote their names in this "book" of life BEFORE He created man. And the only people God is obligated to save are those with whom He has made promises to, to save them. I understand the Hebrew Scripture of Law, Psalms, and the Prophets are writings and record of His relationship with a people born from the loins of Abraham and his Hebrew wife, Sarah. He's the God of the Hebrews and the 39 "books" of the Old Testament is that record. God made no covenant with non-Hebrew Gentiles for there is no record in the Hebrew Scripture of any covenant between the God of Abraham and non-Hebrews.
None.

 

[DavidTree]

Many now play with strange fire my friend.
As they follow and support and even teach
a love and a grace CONTRARY TO GOD .
Any grace that negates the very fact ONE MUST BELIEVE on JESUS the CHRIST
to be saved , BE A LIE from the lips of the dragon .
And any love or grace
that honors and supports in any way any sin , AGAIN that cometh of the lips of the dragon .
Hope that makes it real simple for us all my friend .
That rainbow holding , big mon ey holding , any sin and unbeleif accepting
GOTTA GO . IT AINT OF GOD , IT NEVER was .
For HIS grace teaches US TO DENY all ungodliness and wordly lusts
and to be living righteously , holy and godly in this present world .
HIS grace POINTS ONE TO JESUS CHRIST . pretty clear my friend .
And if we say HE abides in us , well we walk as DID HE .
And we both know JESUS did not sin or support sin nor preach UNBELIEF .

"strange fire"

i C u bin reed-n Torah Truth that Spekes uv Christ & the Ruach HaKodesh

no-tiss, Moshe was appointed by the LORD = all who disobeyed were consumed in Judgement

YAHshua is now the Master of His House = strange fire will be Consumed from FIRE from Above

 

[jeremiah1five]

The Great commission was and is to all nations and all peoples, as Jesus is Promised messiah to lost sinners period, not just lost Jews

No, the so-called "Great Commission" is and was commissioned by Christ to reach out to Jews living in Gentile lands to herald to them the gospel message. What is that message from God to Israel?

God has kept His promise.

5 These twelve Jesus sent forth, and commanded them, saying, Go not into the way of the Gentiles, and into any city of the Samaritans enter ye not:
6 But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.
7 And as ye go, preach, saying, The kingdom of heaven is at hand. Matthew10:5–7.

The kingdom of heaven is a promise God gave to Israel. God promised non-Hebrew Gentiles NOTHING.

 

[jeremiah1five]

The promises of God are to the spiritual heirs of Abraham, who are saved jews and Gentiles in one Flock under the messiah Lord jesus

You are adding to the Bible. God made no covenant with non-Hebrew Gentiles and there is NO SCRIPTURE anywhere in the Old Testament Scripture that says this.

Plus, God Promised His Spirit to Israel as prophesied by Joel. God made NO PROMISES to Gentiles. None.

 

[jeremiah1five]

AWESOME - Thank You

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@armylngst @jeremiah1five

The many "nations" God is identifying are the nations of people born from Abraham's seed through Ishmael and Esau who are the seed of Abraham but were not given the inheritance passed down from Abraham to Isaac and then Jacob.

Through Ishmael and Esau God's promise to Abraham that his seed would be as the sand on the seashore and as the stars above at night is fulfilled each generation of Jews who marry and have children.

God made NO PROMISES to non-Hebrew Gentiles. Jesus Christ is the fulfillment of promises God made through Moses to the children of Israel. Jesus died according to the Law and in fulfillment of the Law of Moses, specifically the Ceremonial Law in which an animal was offered on the altar for the temporary atonement of the sins of the Hebrew people for one year until they sacrifice again on that new year. The animal that was sacrificed had its blood sprinkled on the Hebrew people and on the Mercy Seat of the Ark of the Covenant. These offerings were NOT offered to atone the sins of the non-Hebrew Gentiles. Jesus, in fulfilling the Law died - like the animal - to atone the sins eternally and finally the sins of the children of Israel with whom God has covenant with.

Gentiles were never under the Law nor was any aspect of the Law exercised for them. Jesus died - like the animal - for the sins of the children of Israel ONLY.

 

[jeremiah1five]

One side of my family traced back to 300 or so BC... but just were stupid Scandanavians.


Your point is that no one knows, not even you so as you have told me before I basically am damned.


give it a rest j1f.




No way to know. Better to error on the side of damnation and then be pleasantly surprised then to count on it and find out you life was a lie.


More then likely I came from the Nephilim,. At 5' 1 3/4" tall they would call me a dwarf.... but hey??????

I seriously doubt that you have record going back that far. God scattered His covenant people everywhere, even in Scandinavian populations.

 

[DavidTree]

The many "nations" God is identifying are the nations of people born from Abraham's seed through Ishmael and Esau who are the seed of Abraham but were not given the inheritance passed down from Abraham to Isaac and then Jacob.

Through Ishmael and Esau God's promise to Abraham that his seed would be as the sand on the seashore and as the stars above at night is fulfilled each generation of Jews who marry and have children.

God made NO PROMISES to non-Hebrew Gentiles. Jesus Christ is the fulfillment of promises God made through Moses to the children of Israel. Jesus died according to the Law and in fulfillment of the Law of Moses, specifically the Ceremonial Law in which an animal was offered on the altar for the temporary atonement of the sins of the Hebrew people for one year until they sacrifice again on that new year. The animal that was sacrificed had its blood sprinkled on the Hebrew people and on the Mercy Seat of the Ark of the Covenant. These offerings were NOT offered to atone the sins of the non-Hebrew Gentiles. Jesus, in fulfilling the Law died - like the animal - to atone the sins eternally and finally the sins of the children of Israel with whom God has covenant with.

Gentiles were never under the Law nor was any aspect of the Law exercised for them. Jesus died - like the animal - for the sins of the children of Israel ONLY.

Gentiles with MESSIAH are Blessed with believing Abraham, and are "sons of God"
JEWS without MESSIAH are dead in trespasses and sins and cast out = Matthew 8:5-13

Now when Jesus had entered Capernaum, a Centurion/Gentile came to Him, pleading with Him, saying, “Lord, my servant is lying at home paralyzed, dreadfully tormented.”

And Jesus said to him, “I will come and heal him.”

The Centurion/Gentile answered and said, “Lord, I am not worthy that You should come under my roof. But only speak a word, and my servant will be healed. For I also am a man under authority, having soldiers under me. And I say to this one, ‘Go,’ and he goes; and to another, ‘Come,’ and he comes; and to my servant, ‘Do this,’ and he does it.”

When Jesus heard it, He marveled, and said to those who followed, “Assuredly, I say to you, I have not found such great faith, not even in Israel! And I say to you that many will come from east and west, and sit down with Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob in the kingdom of heaven.
But the sons of the kingdom/unredeemed Jews will be cast out into outer darkness.
There will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.”
Then Jesus said to the Centurion/Gentile, “Go your way; and as you have believed, so let it be done for you.”
And his servant was healed that same hour.

 

[armylngst]

When speaking of JESUS coming into the world = you are 100% CORRECT

However, God Spoke the Gospel First

Please find out where and when HE did and please let me know - Thank You

Depending on what you are speaking to, Paul said that God told the gospel to Abraham when he promised that through his seed all the nations of the world would be blessed.

Edit: I left out that it was by faith that Abraham received the promise, and it is by faith that all the nations of the world stand to be blessed. (Those in "all the nations of the world" who believe in faith.)

 

[armylngst]

AWESOME - Thank You

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@armylngst @jeremiah1five

The Old Testament didn't speak of the Gentiles salvation, but according to Paul, this complete mystery was revealed to the apostles, and I believe he said specifically him, but I could be mistaken there. This has nothing to do with me saying that "first to the Jew" speaks to priority, like again... priority seating. They are seated first, because they are priority. Does that mean no one else is getting on the plane? No, they get on afterwards. Just as the people eat the food on the table, and during/afterwards, crumbs fall to the floor and the family pets get to partake. It is also in the promise God made to Abraham. Gentiles are not a part of the Abrahamic covenant, but the spiritual blessings of the promise God gave Abraham belong to both Jews and Gentiles by faith. The physical promises belong to the Jews physically. Considering how it will unfold, it too is by faith. Abraham will be resurrected along with everyrone else, and God will fulfill His covenant with a living Abraham. He and his descendants will dwell with the land God covenanted to Abraham. Even if it is just for 1000 years, God... will... fulfill... His... covenant...

As Gentiles, our faith and trust in God is built on God's faithfulness to His covenants and promises made to Israel (the true Israel of God, that is the elect of Israel within the nation of Israel) and to the forefathers (Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, etc.) If God does not fulfill His covenants and promises, then on what grounds does our trust stand? If He won't fulfill His promises and covenants to Israel, why should a Gentile trust that God will do what He says in regards to salvation? Upon what grounds? This is why Paul takes the time in Romans (three chapters) to establish the grounds. God has not rejected Israel. God will fulfill His promises and covenants. Not the Mosaic, that one was broken/violated a long time ago. Abrahamic, Davidic, the New covenant, etc.

Paul felt so deeply about his people that he would even make himself anathema if it meant the salvation of his countrymen. (In regards to heresy, anathema means accursed of God. So understand, if Paul prayed such a request (apparently he may have), realize it isn't some simple request.

The church is NOT Israel. The church is made up of Jews and Gentiles, but as such, that does not nullify God's covenants and promises made specifically with the Jews and their forefathers. It does not extend those covenants and promises to the Gentiles. However, to Abraham, God extended spiritual blessings to the Gentiles through faith when He said that through Abraham's seed (Christ), all the nations for the world will be blessed. Those blessings belong to both Jews and Gentiles who believe in Christ by faith. The physical promises of covenant belong to the Jews because God made the covenants with the Jews. (Abraham, David, Moses, etc. The Mosaic covenant was flawed and has been replaced by the New Covenant.)

The physical promises are land promises and other such things.

 

[FreeInChrist]

I seriously doubt that you have record going back that far. God scattered His covenant people everywhere, even in Scandinavian populations.

I may have lost it but will take some hunting through the computer because the PC I was using before this one literally died and the harddrive was difficult to pull anything from and they had to use another harddrive along with the first to get anything over to this one.... (Geek Squad) ... and sometimes when I hunt now it is a real scavinger hunt....
I say this to tell you if I do find it.... I will DM it to you.....

I did have hard copy but in prepping for my move I threw all genealogy stuff out including my DNA results (all 3 of them) because I wont have room and I am the last so no one to be interested.

 

[Tothalordbeallglory]

I may have lost it but will take some hunting through the computer because the PC I was using before this one literally died and the harddrive was difficult to pull anything from and they had to use another harddrive along with the first to get anything over to this one.... (Geek Squad) ... and sometimes when I hunt now it is a real scavinger hunt....
I say this to tell you if I do find it.... I will DM it to you.....

I did have hard copy but in prepping for my move I threw all genealogy stuff out including my DNA results (all 3 of them) because I wont have room and I am the last so no one to be interested.

We were warned my friend to avoid such as cling to genelogies .
That man knows not what he says .
Its more than clear that just as by faith the jews are added in
SO too by faith in Christ are the g entiles added in .
This fellow preaches fleshly carnal sermons , as always they try so hard to blend truths into their doctrine .
As always we know No LIE is of the TRUTH .
WE preach JESUS to the jew and the gentile . T his o ther fellow preaches something else .

 

[FreeInChrist]

We were warned my friend to avoid such as cling to genelogies .
That man knows not what he says .
Its more than clear that just as by faith the jews are added in
SO too by faith in Christ are the g entiles added in .
This fellow preaches fleshly carnal sermons , as always they try so hard to blend truths into their doctrine .
As always we know No LIE is of the TRUTH .
WE preach JESUS to the jew and the gentile . T his o ther fellow preaches something else .

I do not "cling" to any genealogy of mine.

I got interested as a time passer when my mm was developing dementia for a few years before her death a year or so ago and family history had talked of my great great grandfather who was in the Civil War and was captured and placed on a train to Andersonville, from which he manaaged to escape. Once he got to DC he got a congretional order to write of this experience and for most of my life I had a copy of that book until someone took it out of this house.

Trivia time... I had never heard this in any Civil War stories I had seen but he wrote that the slaves along the way helped him by feeding and hiding him and he recounted a story of being by the railroad tracks he was following of hearing a click clack sound of people walking and he knew they were friends because he explained the slave would take planks of wood and use straps of fabric ( maybe leather) to tie them to the bottom of their feet so their feet would not get all cut up and on the rails they made this click clack sound.

Then on the other side of the family... Where this Yankee (proud Yankee) learn there was not just a plantation in the family.as well as a bigamist.... There had been a Vicar, I believe in the church of England.... (I have thrown it all out now) who left the church over a dispute over baptism... went to Scotland... became a Presbyterian minister
and made his way to I believe VA where he built his church.....

But on this side of the family , which was my fathers mothers side.... There was a woman by the name of Rose O'Neal Greenhow who was a conferderate spy. High up socially she attended many galas in DC and passed on what she learned to the south. She has quite a story ... even written in Wiki... and had a horrible death by drowning...

But it is the stories I find interesting.....

As to the BC side... I had a link that would allow one to move forward of back and if you kept going back to a father... at some point it would stop when there was neither father or mother and that is the one that took me so far back.

See... now you know everything I know about my genealogy.... And maybe was are warned away.... IDC.... But it was important to find those who had the blood lines back to David for Jesus

 

[JesusFan]

You are adding to the Bible. God made no covenant with non-Hebrew Gentiles and there is NO SCRIPTURE anywhere in the Old Testament Scripture that says this.

Plus, God Promised His Spirit to Israel as prophesied by Joel. God made NO PROMISES to Gentiles. None.

Jesus stated that the Holy Spirit will be poured out on all peoples, as In heaven will be saved out from every tribe, tongue, and nation and that includes Gentiles
Yahweh not God of just Jews, but God for all peoples

 

[JesusFan]

Gentiles with MESSIAH are Blessed with believing Abraham, and are "sons of God"
JEWS without MESSIAH are dead in trespasses and sins and cast out = Matthew 8:5-13

Now when Jesus had entered Capernaum, a Centurion/Gentile came to Him, pleading with Him, saying, “Lord, my servant is lying at home paralyzed, dreadfully tormented.”

And Jesus said to him, “I will come and heal him.”

The Centurion/Gentile answered and said, “Lord, I am not worthy that You should come under my roof. But only speak a word, and my servant will be healed. For I also am a man under authority, having soldiers under me. And I say to this one, ‘Go,’ and he goes; and to another, ‘Come,’ and he comes; and to my servant, ‘Do this,’ and he does it.”

When Jesus heard it, He marveled, and said to those who followed, “Assuredly, I say to you, I have not found such great faith, not even in Israel! And I say to you that many will come from east and west, and sit down with Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob in the kingdom of heaven.
But the sons of the kingdom/unredeemed Jews will be cast out into outer darkness.
There will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.”
Then Jesus said to the Centurion/Gentile, “Go your way; and as you have believed, so let it be done for you.”
And his servant was healed that same hour.

Jesus thru the Apostle Paul, commanded that the Gospel would be going forth to now the gentiles, as Jesus will be the Shepard messiah over one flock, now both saved Jews and gentiles together in one Body

 

[DavidTree]

Jesus thru the Apostle Paul, commanded that the Gospel would be going forth to now the gentiles, as Jesus will be the Shepard messiah over one flock, now both saved Jews and gentiles together in one Body

Have you found the answer to:
When, where and to whom did God first speak/preach the Gospel?