That sounds good but your statements are not based on what the Scripture says. I have given you Scripture for all of what I said. But you're just giving me your opinion, not Scripture to back it up.
Please explain how the Old Covenant can be fully obeyed today without the temple.
Please explain why the veil in the temple was supernaturally torn in two at the very moment Jesus said, "It is finished."
The Bible says that "no man can lay a foundation other than the one which is laid, which is Jesus Christ." 1 Corinthians 3:11 The Old Covenant is not our foundation. Jesus is.
Jesus said "You search the Scriptures (the Old Covenant) because you think that in them you have eternal life; it is these that testify about Me; and you are unwilling to come to Me so that you may have life." John 5:39
"So then you (Gentiles) are no longer strangers and aliens, but you are fellow citizens with the (Jewish) saints, and are of God's household, having been built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Christ Jesus Himself being the corner stone." Ephesians 2:19-20
You are so steeped in your Jewishness, that you can't see the forest because the trees are in the way. We should be steeped in "Jesus-ness". Do you remember the Jews for Jesus? I don't know where they stand today, but they sure started out right with that name.
The emphasis in the Bible is Jesus, not being Jewish, no more so than my being English and Scottish. Yes, God had the Messiah come through the Jews, but He did that so that ALL NATIONS WOULD BE BLESSED, which was His promise to Abraham - Genesis 12:3, who by the way, was not a Jew. Paul said that the promise to Abraham was for him and his seed - Christ. Galatians 3:16 All those in Christ, Gentile or Jew are the recipients and heirs of Abraham's promise. It is those who have put their faith in Jesus, both Jew and Gentile, who are blessed, not Jews or Gentiles who have rejected the Messiah.
Jesus said to them, "Did you never read in the Scriptures, 'The stone which the builders rejected, this became the chief corner stone; this came about from the Lord, and it is marvelous in our eyes.'?
"Therefore I say to you, the kingdom of God will be taken away from you (unbelieving Jews) and given to a nation (the church, which includes both Jew and Gentile), producing the fruit of it." Matthew 21:42-43
This seems an appropriate place to look more intensively at how the Letter To A Group Of Messianic Jews ["To The
Hebrews"] deals with "old and "new" covenants.
"For if the system
oicohanim is transformed, there must of necessity occur a transformation of
Torah... Thus on one
hand, the earlier rule is set aside because of its weakness and inefficacy (for
Torah did not bring anything to the goal);
and, on the other hand, a hope of something better is introduced, through which we are drawing near to God."
But "a transformation of
Torah" does not imply its abolition. Specific rules are set aside---For example, the
Torah has
to be adjusted to take account of Yeshua's role as
cohen gadel [high priest]. Yet the
Torah itself continues in force and
is to be observed, just as the Constitution is not abolished by being amended. We do not know when the "old"
covenant will vanish, but we do know that Yeshua said, "Until heaven and earth pass away, not so much as
ayudor
a stroke will pass from the
Torah---not until everything that must happen has happened.
I have given my writing to the question of how Messianic Judaism is to relate to the
Torah because I am certain that
the lack of a correct, clear and relatively complete Messianic Jewish or Gentile Christian theology of the Law is not
only a major impediment to Christians' understanding their own faith, but also the greatest barrier to Jewish' people's
receiving the Gospel. Even though many Jews do not observe
Torah, often neither knowing nor caring about it,
I stand by this statement; because attachment to the Torah is rooted deep in the Jewish people's memory, where
it affects attitudes unconsciously.
While ultimately the issue becomes who Yeshua is---Messiah, Son of the Living God, final Atonement, Lord of our
lives---the Church's problem here is mainly one of communication, of expressing the truth in ways that relate to
Jewish world-views. But the Church hardly knows what to make of the
Torah or how to fit it together with the
New Testament. and if the Church doesn't know, don't expect the Jews to figure it out for them! I believe that
Christianity has gone to far astray in its dealings with the subject and that most urgent task of theology today
is get right its view of the Law (
Torah).
Christianity organizes systematic theology by subjects it considers important. Thus topics like the Holy Spirit and
the person and work of the Messiah take a healthy amount of space in any Christian systematic theology.
Judaism too organizes its theological thinking into categories reflecting its concerns, its three main topics are
God, Israel (that is the Jewish people) and
Torah.
Comparing Jewish and Christian theology, one finds that both devote much attention to God and to the people
of God (in one case the Jews, in the other the Church). It is all the more striking, therefore, to notice how much
Jewish thought and how little Christian theology addresses the topic of
Torah---generally rendered in English
as "Law," although the meaning of the Hebrew word is "teaching."
And that is unfortunate for the Christians. It means, first, that most Christians have an overly simplistic understanding
of what the Law is all about; and, second, that Christianity has almost nothing relevant to say to Jews about one
of the three most important issues of their faith. The main reason for this is that Christian theology, with the
ant-Jewish bias it incorporated in its early centuries, misunderstood Sha'ul [Paul] and concluded that the
Torah is
no longer in force. This is not the Jewish Gospel, nor is it the true Gospel. It is time for Christians to understand
the truth about the Law [
Torah].
Romans 10:4 Did The Messiah End The Law?
Consider Romans 10:4, which states---in a typical but wrong translation---"For Christ ends the law and brings
righteousness for everyone who has faith." Like this translator, most theologians understand the verse to say
that Yeshua terminated the
Torah. But the Greek word translated "ends" is
telos, from which English gets the word
"teleology," defined in Webster's Third International Dictionary as "The philosophical study of the evidences of
design in nature; . . . the fact or the character of being directed toward an end or shaped by a purpose---used
of---nature. . . . conceived as determined . . . by the design of a divine Providence . . . . "The normal meaning of
telos in Greek---which is also its meaning here---is "goal, purpose, consummation." not "termination."
The Messiah did not and does not bring the
Torah to an end. Rather, attention to and faith in the Messiah is
the goal and purpose toward which the
Torah aims, the logical consequence, result and consummation of
observing the Torah out of genuine faith, as opposed to trying to observe it out of legalism. This , not the
termination of Torah, is Sha'ul's point, as can be seen from the context, Romans 9:30-10:11.
The Gospel With An Ended Law Is No Gospel At All
The statement has been made that of the three mentioned earlier as most important on the Jewish theological
agenda, Reform Jews focus mainly on "God," the Conservatives on "Israel" and the Orthodox on "
Torah"
Now if Christianity comes into an environment with the message that the
Torah is no longer in force, the line
of communication with Orthodox Judaism is simply cut. There is no longer anything to discuss. Thus if Christianity
cannot address the issue of
Torah properly and seriously, it has nothing to say to the Jewish people. The central
concern of Orthodox Judaism itself is dismissed, perhaps with a casual and cavalier citation of Romans 6:14
"We're not under the law but grace." In my opinion this shallow, sterile way of thinking has gone on too long in
the Church. Moreover, this way of thinking is not only shallow, but perverse! Yeshua said very plainly in the theme
sentence of the Sermon on the Mount, "Do not think that I came to abolish the Law. . . I did not come to abolish,
but
plesorai, "to fill." We learned earlier that Yeshua's "filling" here means making clear the full and proper sense
of
Torah; and we pointed out that even if
pier meant "fulfillment," it could not be twisted to mean "abolition," in
contradiction to what he had said three words earlier. This seems so clear that it is hard for me to understand
how Christianity theology has even dared to propose the idea that the
Torah is no more.
I myself believe it came about because of anti-Jewish bias infused into the Gentile Church in its early centuries;
this bias is so pervasive and difficult to root out that even Christians without any personal antisemitism whatever
are unavoidably affected by it.
Shalom Aleichem שלום עליכם