The faith of Jesus Christ versus the faith of man

[FreeInChrist]

I am not Jewish and so I don't follow the Jewish Bible. The Christian Bible starts in Romans.

Well, that explains a lot, if not all.

If you had any understanding at all of who Jesus was/is you would view things differently.

 

[jeremiah1five]

His seed through Christ his spiritual seed Gal 3:29

- And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise

Abraham couldn't produce a spiritual believing seed justified by faith. Gal 3:8

And the scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the heathen through faith, preached before the gospel unto Abraham, saying, In thee shall all nations be blessed.

That's God's work

The man of sin belongs to "families of the earth." Is he blessed of God? Yes, he is, by your erroneous extending Abraham's blessings to someone who, according to your false interpretation, are "families of the earth" that are Gentile.

According to your interpretation of "families of the earth" (Gentiles) that would include Hitler and Stalin who are blessed with faithful Abrham, right?

No, sorry to destroy your false theology but those that are "families of the earth" are Abraham's descendants, his seed, as promised by God. They are blessed because of the covenant God made with Abraham. His seed are the "families of the earth" that are blessed with faithful Abraham.

 

[FreeInChrist]

God desires His people to trust Him. He is pleased when they do. He is not pleased when they don't. Do you have any stories when you failed God and didn't trust Him? Yes, of course you do. Did you lose your salvation when you didn't trust God?

Really... you want to go there with me? I still have the DMs we share and it was all about my not being saved ... ergo going to hell for an eternity and you did not argue because I AM NOT Jewish and for some reason you have gotten off that tangent at least for now.

Did you end up in hell?

Did I. If you lived my life you would say I have and am there.

But your ideas on faith are wrong. Go ask Grok about it

What's the big deal? Israel was in covenant as a people by being the seed and descendants of Abraham and Sarah. This covenant at the appropriate and appointed time lead to another covenant that included Jacob's descendants, who are descendant of Isaac, who are the descendants of Abraham., a covenant that included officially God giving His Law(s) to the children of Israel so that they may live under God's reign and serve him. Gentiles were never given God's Law. Gentiles were never under the Law. Neither are they included in the New Covenant which is the culmination of the Abrahamic and Mosaic Covenants.

Noah was told by God He was to flood the earth and to build an Ark to survive it. Eight people survived the flood because Noah believed God who said "Build an Ark! I am going to flood the earth and kill everyone!"

Enoch was a man who had children and if you have kids yourself, and you are conscientious about things in life, you were changed when your children were born like Enoch. He served God 300 years AFTER he had kids. Who else shall I write about? Even Jesus had trust/faith in God His Father. He had to. He needed to know what it's like for us as men and women who are commanded by God to believe and trust God. It was Jesus' faith as a man under the Law who had the faith/trust necessary through which those in covenant would be saved. Jesus was able to experience what we go through when God expects and commands our trust/faith in Him. Of course, Jesus had faith. He experienced everything we go through in this life - even to have faith in God like we do.

 

[brightfame52]

The man of sin belongs to "families of the earth

He doesn't belong to Christ Abraham's seed and the heirs Gal 3:29

 

[brightfame52]

Neither are they included in the New Covenant which is the culmination of the Abrahamic and Mosaic Covenants.

False, Gentiles are included in the New Covenant, that is why Paul was made a Apostle, A new Covenant minister unto the Gentiles 2 Corinthians 3:5-6

5 Not that we are sufficient of ourselves to think any thing as of ourselves; but our sufficiency is of God;

6 Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life.

 

[Jim]

Re-imagining and re-interpreting the Hebrew Scripture to make what was originally Hebrew into Gentile. I understand it. I used to be blinded and deceived by the same false Gentile theology myself until the questions I had begun to lead me to the answers that if not already biased by Gentile thought would have kept me holding to false Gentile theology today. But when I began to think things through - as Saul did - I began to see the truth and by it was set free from the bondage of permeating false Gentile theology that is out there being gobbled up by Gentiles with a pre-installed Gentile theology and bias that would have kept me looking at the Hebrew Scripture with a Gentile mindset. But God set me free.

And the thorn in Saul's flesh was his own flesh, not his mind. The mind is part of the soul, not the flesh. It might be a brain that is flesh, but the thoughts that come from it cannot be seen, they are immaterial like spirit, sometimes evil spirit. Sometimes the attitudes that emanate from the brain are evil thoughts, demonic attitudes, and attitude is very important in a believer's life. Our thoughts set the course of our lives. We can't have an evil spirit/attitude when we worship God and so when Christ dealt with supposed people possessed by evil spirits/thoughts/attitude, the first thing Jesus did was bring those thoughts/attitudes/evil thoughts into submission, and then He could minister to a person. But the false Gentile theology out there is that "demons" are fallen angels who have been changed into demons through God's power or their own power, but this would be inconsistent with true biblical teaching that says "demons" are fallen angels.

(Saul's) thinking cannot be equated with his flesh. That's confusion at the highest degree. May the Lord deliver you from your bondage, to see things more clearly, as Saul did.
Remember, a thorn in a person's flesh has to do with flesh.
Remember this.

Face it @jeremiah1five - you display much of the same bad theology that Paul faced from the Judaizers.

 

[Tothalordbeallglory]

Question?

Is faith supposed to be private?

If not... based on what you have said... why then would Heb 11:6 state

"And without faith it is impossible to please Him, for he who comes to God must believe that He is and that He is a rewarder of those who seek Him." ?


The Faith of Abel, Enoch, Noah
…5By faith Enoch was taken up so that he did not see death: “He could not be found, because God had taken him away.” For before he was taken, he was commended as one who pleased God. 6And without faith it is impossible to please God, because anyone who approaches Him must believe that He exists and that He rewards those who earnestly seek Him. 7By faith Noah, when warned about things not yet seen, in godly fear built an ark to save his family. By faith he condemned the world and became heir of the righteousness that comes by faith.…

Free in Christ . You do realize what is going on my friend .
Because what i say to one i say to all . That man is dead wrong . FAITH IS MASSIVELY seen
and mentioned in the abrahamic covenant .
Abraham BELEIVED GOD . That is FAITH .
IT was always about FAITH .
It always has been .
Even the first covenant, temporary till the promise of the seed would come , was
still based on faith . Without faith it truly is impossible to please GOD .
At most you have an appearance of what can seem righteous
but the acts within it are not being done by FAITH but rather by WORKS by which one beleives
HE can be righteous . EVEN HE breaks the law . IT IS THE JUST that shall live by faith .
WHO , what one believes is who and what one obeys . Why did i say what
Because if one BELEIVES NOT the inspired words of GOD , they DO NOT beleive GOD .
Even adam , even eve had first beleived GOD .
We may not eat of the tree in the midst for in the day we do we shall surely die .
But of course along came the serpent and in short time EVE BE LEIVED HIM , NOT GOD .
thus obeyed HIM , NOT GOD . its real clear to see .
THAT WHO WE BELIEVE is WHOSE we are . And seeing death and the curse has came upon all .
WELL THERE BE ONLY ONE and i do mean ONLY ONE who can set us free
f rom the power of satan and death , opening the eyes to see and the ears to hear .
HIS NAME needs no introduction to the sheep , THEY KNOW HIS NAME and BELEIVE HIM .
But for the sake of many i will just say HIS NAME BE JESUS CHRIST
and HIS WORDS are JUST as TRUE TODAY as they ever were .
IN fact IT IS ONLY THE WORDS OF GOD that shall endure .
Mind if i ask why so many are now seated under ecumenical interfaith .
CAUSE THAT DO DENY HIM . i SEEN THEM DO IT . I SEEN them with my own eyes .
But and only THIS generation seems to not give a rip one
THAT JESUS has been trod under foot .
cause as with eve so too with much of christendom
and as with the first adam MANY NOW EAT of that fallen hand they THINK is coming from
the true church . I never seen anything like this is all my days .

 

[Tothalordbeallglory]

That was through obedience not faith. Nice try but you are equivocating again

Verily verily i say unto thee
That faith , love , cannot be seperated FROM obediance .
FOR WHO WE LOVE , WHO WE BELEIVED , IS WHO WE OBEY .
Ye will find it v ery hard and impossible to disprove that .
There are many scriptures and letters of apostels that can prove that .
SO lets not try and divide faith from obediance .
THEY ARE GLUED AS ONE my friend .
Do be encouraged .

 

[Peterlag]

There's your ignorance in full view.

There is no "Jewish" or "Christian" Bible.

There is only ONE Bible.

The Hebrew Bible. It begins with Genesis and ends with Revelation.

Each "book" is authored by a Hebrew and is written to and for Hebrews. Biblical Christianity is revealed in its pages.
This means that Christianity existed with the first prophecy in Genesis 3:15 culminating with a call from Messiah that He will "Come, quickly."
Moses was a Christian, David was a Christian, whoever hoped in the [Greek] Christ would come looked forward to His appearance as promised by Jehovah God, the Great I AM, who created all things that exist in the universe, from good to evil - All things were Authored by One and that One is God.
I suggest you take your false, Constantinian Gentile theology and re-form it into Biblical Christianity as taught in this One Hebrew Bible.
There is only ONE kind of Christianity that exists. Biblical Christianity.
If one's Christianity is not Biblical, then it is NOT Christianity.
Bottom line.

I don't believe anything that you have written above. I do not know why we have so many Christians who believe the entire Bible is written directly to them, the Church of God. There is nothing in the Bible to indicate such thinking, and I would like to add nothing could be further from the truth. It's true the Word of God was written for everyone for all time, and it's for our learning because it contains what everyone should know. That does not mean every part of it is addressed to everyone in this time, because the subject matter was written either to the Jews, to the Gentiles, or to the Church of God (1 Corinthians 10:32).

 

[Tothalordbeallglory]

That was through obedience not faith. Nice try but you are equivocating again

And how is there any faith if one beleives not , obeys not GOD .
They got us with a lie my friend .
I know what they did . They blended
the part about appearing righteous , beleiving one can BE RIGHTEOUS
into a lie that implies OBEDIANCE is the problem . NEVER Was never will be .
WITHOUT FAITH IS THE PROBLEM .
WHY a man do as he do matters .
What a man beleives matters .
DOCTRINE matters .
IF a man THINKS and BELEIVES HE can attain RIGHTEOUSNESS BY THE LAW
HE has not seen nor heard nor understands , The law was not meant to MAKE one righteous .
IT gave beautiful knowledge of the truth , of what is righteous and true .
And when i look at it i see its beauty , an d i see and kn ow something .
If i compare myself to the law to be justified by it
My oh my have i fallen far short . SO i dont look to the law for my justification
I LOOKED and LOOK to the ONLY ONE who did all that was necessary for me
TO BE JUSTIFIED by which i could NEV ER be justified by the law .
THE LAW will condemn a man like me . I have ONLY ONE i LOOK too . HIS NAME , JESUS THE CHRIST .
And due to THE SPIRIT that now leads me
DO i now have new desires to please GOD . you take a good long l ook at these words
because the man typing them KNOWS there is nothing good in him BUT THE SPIRIT OF GOD AND OF CHRIST .
And that just because i expose that whores ecumenical cup of interfaith
and any and all sins , DONT MAKE ME A PHARISEE or a legalist , or whtaever other name
folks give me . TIME for GRAVE MEN to arise and help this people . Its a bath of delusion i see
all o ver the place.

 

[FreeInChrist]

Free in Christ . You do realize what is going on my friend .
Because what i say to one i say to all . That man is dead wrong . FAITH IS MASSIVELY seen
and mentioned in the abrahamic covenant .
Abraham BELEIVED GOD . That is FAITH .
IT was always about FAITH .
It always has been .
Even the first covenant, temporary till the promise of the seed would come , was
still based on faith . Without faith it truly is impossible to please GOD .
At most you have an appearance of what can seem righteous
but the acts within it are not being done by FAITH but rather by WORKS by which one beleives
HE can be righteous . EVEN HE breaks the law . IT IS THE JUST that shall live by faith .
WHO , what one believes is who and what one obeys . Why did i say what
Because if one BELEIVES NOT the inspired words of GOD , they DO NOT beleive GOD .
Even adam , even eve had first beleived GOD .
We may not eat of the tree in the midst for in the day we do we shall surely die .
But of course along came the serpent and in short time EVE BE LEIVED HIM , NOT GOD .
thus obeyed HIM , NOT GOD . its real clear to see .
THAT WHO WE BELIEVE is WHOSE we are . And seeing death and the curse has came upon all .
WELL THERE BE ONLY ONE and i do mean ONLY ONE who can set us free
f rom the power of satan and death , opening the eyes to see and the ears to hear .
HIS NAME needs no introduction to the sheep , THEY KNOW HIS NAME and BELEIVE HIM .
But for the sake of many i will just say HIS NAME BE JESUS CHRIST
and HIS WORDS are JUST as TRUE TODAY as they ever were .
IN fact IT IS ONLY THE WORDS OF GOD that shall endure .
Mind if i ask why so many are now seated under ecumenical interfaith .

Even Ai can answer this.... The Bible prophesies a One World Religion that will emerge during the end times, particularly in the Book of Revelation, where it describes a false prophet who will unite all religions under a single doctrine, leading to the worship of the Antichrist. This unification is seen as part of a broader plan to establish a One World Government and a One World Currency.

And we are speeding toward this at lightning speeds that one will soon be sucked into if one is not aware and watchful.

CAUSE THAT DO DENY HIM . i SEEN THEM DO IT . I SEEN them with my own eyes .
But and only THIS generation seems to not give a rip one
THAT JESUS has been trod under foot .
cause as with eve so too with much of christendom
and as with the first adam MANY NOW EAT of that fallen hand they THINK is coming from
the true church . I never seen anything like this is all my days .

Maranatha,

Amen. amen

 

[brightfame52]

Did Jesus have Faith ?

My top 10 reasons why Jesus had no need for faith !

Did He as a man have need to pray? Did He pray with faith? Heb 5:7

7 Who in the days of his flesh, when he had offered up prayers and supplications with strong crying and tears unto him that was able to save him from death, and was heard in that he feared;

 

[Red Baker]

@Tothalordbeallglory @civic @FreeInChrist @Jim @brightfame52

Verily verily I say unto thee, that faith, love, cannot be separated FROM obedience . FOR WHO WE LOVE , WHO WE BELIEVED , IS WHO WE OBEY

Ye will find it very hard and impossible to disprove that .

There are many scriptures and letters of apostles that can prove that . So, lets not try and divide faith from obedience . THEY ARE GLUED AS ONE my friend . Do be encouraged .

Hear ye, Hear ye! All of God's children said amen and amen.

 

[Red Baker]

@FreeInChrist

Even Ai can answer this.... The Bible prophesies a One World Religion that will emerge during the end times, particularly in the Book of Revelation, where it describes a false prophet who will unite all religions under a single doctrine, leading to the worship of the Antichrist. This unification is seen as part of a broader plan to establish a One World Government and a One World Currency.

AI is dead wrong on this point, and is only saying what folk program into the world wide web which puts forth information at our fingertips, but only information for the most part that he who feeds it the most is the one that the world wide web considers as the authority....... on religious matters at least this is true. But truth is never to be found with the majority, but with a few misfits here and there throughout this world.

 

[Victoria]

The Bible prophesies a One World Religion that will emerge during the end times, particularly in the Book of Revelation, where it describes a false prophet who will unite all religions under a single doctrine, leading to the worship of the Antichrist. This unification is seen as part of a broader plan to establish a One World Government and a One World Currency.

And we are speeding toward this at lightning speeds that one will soon be sucked into if one is not aware and watchful.

Amen! Ecumenical Movement

 

[civic]

And how is there any faith if one beleives not , obeys not GOD .
They got us with a lie my friend .
I know what they did . They blended
the part about appearing righteous , beleiving one can BE RIGHTEOUS
into a lie that implies OBEDIANCE is the problem . NEVER Was never will be .
WITHOUT FAITH IS THE PROBLEM .
WHY a man do as he do matters .
What a man beleives matters .
DOCTRINE matters .
IF a man THINKS and BELEIVES HE can attain RIGHTEOUSNESS BY THE LAW
HE has not seen nor heard nor understands , The law was not meant to MAKE one righteous .
IT gave beautiful knowledge of the truth , of what is righteous and true .
And when i look at it i see its beauty , an d i see and kn ow something .
If i compare myself to the law to be justified by it
My oh my have i fallen far short . SO i dont look to the law for my justification
I LOOKED and LOOK to the ONLY ONE who did all that was necessary for me
TO BE JUSTIFIED by which i could NEV ER be justified by the law .
THE LAW will condemn a man like me . I have ONLY ONE i LOOK too . HIS NAME , JESUS THE CHRIST .
And due to THE SPIRIT that now leads me
DO i now have new desires to please GOD . you take a good long l ook at these words
because the man typing them KNOWS there is nothing good in him BUT THE SPIRIT OF GOD AND OF CHRIST .
And that just because i expose that whores ecumenical cup of interfaith
and any and all sins , DONT MAKE ME A PHARISEE or a legalist , or whtaever other name
folks give me . TIME for GRAVE MEN to arise and help this people . Its a bath of delusion i see
all o ver the place.

It’s obedience not faith.

Philippians 2:8
And being found in human form, he humbled himself by becoming obedient to the point of death, even death on a cross

Hebrews 5:8
Although He was a Son, He learned obedience from what He suffered

Romans 5:19
For just as through the disobedience of the one man the many were made sinners, so also through the obedience of the one man the many will be made righteous

My previous post still stands. Nowhere does it say in the Bible Christ had or needed faith.

Now like the above scriptures which are true, more truth based upon scripture.

1-Jesus used the word pistis or its derivatives a total of 41 times. Look it up in your concordance if you own one.
2- Every time Jesus used the word He was talking about someone else’s faith and not “ His Faith “
3- Jesus never used the faith in the first person referring to His “ Faith “.
4- No book in the entire NT ever refers to “ Jesus Faith “
5- Jesus is always the object of Faith never the recipient of faith
6- All the Apostles refers to their own faith in Christ .
7- Saving Faith is in Christ alone
8- God has no need for Faith
9- The Savior has no need for faith since He is not a sinner
10- Faith is needed for sinners alone and not the Holy Son of God who was / is Impeccable

Faith is the belief in things unseen. Remember the words of the Author of Hebrews: “Now faith is the assurance of things hoped for, the conviction of things not seen” (11:1).

Since Jesus is God He has perfect knowledge of all things as He claimed and the disciples affirmed on numerous occasions when they said we know that you are the Son of God for you know all things. Jesus knew what was in mans heart. There is no reason for Jesus to have faith since He knows all things and all things were made by Him and through Him and in Him all things exist. He knows the beginning from the end as the Creator. He shares all the same Divine attributes as the Father and the Holy Spirit. There is no faith in heaven there is only sight. The 2 natures in Christ solve the question of faith and Jesus as a man has all the attributes of God. So Jesus had no need for faith since He sees the things unseen by man. He always said and did what He heard and saw the Father doing 24/7 read about it in John 5.

hope this helps !!!

 

[brightfame52]

Jesus never used the faith in the first person referring to His “ Faith “

Yet Jesus was faithful Heb 3:2

Who was faithful to him that appointed him, as also Moses was faithful in all his house.

 

[civic]

Yet Jesus was faithful Heb 3:2

Who was faithful to him that appointed him, as also Moses was faithful in all his house.

God is faithful so is Jesus hence He is God.

 

[Red Baker]

@brightfame52 @civic @FreeInChrist @Jim

Did He as a man have need to pray? Did He pray with faith? Heb 5:7

7 Who in the days of his flesh, when he had offered up prayers and supplications with strong crying and tears unto him that was able to save him from death, and was heard in that he feared;

To even think that Christ's faith and obedience is not connected in securing our salvation from sin and condemnation, only shows me that that person is missing a huge part of the gospel of Jesus Christ. Galatians three should settle this point once and for all.

Galatians 3:22-25~"But the scripture hath concluded all under sin, that the promise by faith of Jesus Christ might be given to them that believe. But before faith came, we were kept under the law, shut up unto the faith which should afterwards be revealed. Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith. But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster."

The law, which was a schoolmaster for God's elect to show us of our need of Jesus' faith and obedience put to our account so that we could be justified freely by God's grace through the redemption work of Jesus Christ. Once we see and understand this truth, we are no longer under the schoolmaster, he did his job well with those whom God hath quickened to life.

Let us look at this a bit longer.

Galatians 3:23~ "But before faith came, we were kept under the law, shut up unto the faith which should afterwards be revealed."​

Here we have a plain use of faith as a metonym for Jesus Christ and His gospel and doctrine. The same use/sense we find in Ephesians 2:8,9)

What is the event of before and afterwards? The arrival of Christ, Abraham’s seed (3:19).

The word faith is not being used as your belief, confidence, or trust in Christ, but as Christ Himself, Who is our sole Saviour by the grace of God and the object of our faith.

Prior to the coming of Jesus Christ, we were under the Law of Moses waiting for the revelation of the full gospel of the grace of God.

God chose to leave His people for about 1500 years condemned under the Law of Moses. Since it could not justify, and only reminded of sins (Heb 10:1-4), it kept men in prison! The gospel of Jesus Christ and its clear and full revelation of how God justifies men through His grace in Jesus Christ is a glorious blessing that is greatly neglected by many. God promised eternal life to the elect, but revealed it in Christ's faith and obedience. (2nd Tim 1:9-10; Titus 1:3).

Galatians 3:24~ "Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith."​

Due to Paul’s varying use of faith, we must decide the sense of faith here in this context. If we make it our simple faith in Christ, then it is encouraging believers with promises.

If we make it Christ Himself and His gospel, as the previous verse, it is for believers. Faith is used for Christ, the gospel of grace, and God’s promises of life to believers. All men are justified and saved the same way ~ by the grace of God in Jesus Christ – but the Law was a schoolmaster in directing the understanding of men toward the gospel of Christ.

Galatians 3:25~ "But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster."​

Connected to 3:23 by the same use of faith, this verse declares the Old Testament to be gone.

Men had faith from Abel forward, but this is the source of faith, the Lord Jesus Christ and His gospel of free justification by the grace of God upon those who believe the promises.

Jesus Christ and His gospel reveal how eternal life was secured all along (II Timothy 1:9-10). By Christ's obedience and faith

Since Jesus Christ, the promised seed of Abraham, to whom secured the free gift of eternal life and revealed in His gospel and religious system have arrived, there is no further need for the Law of Moses which simply pointed to Jesus Christ and the faith that should come that was perfect and well pleasing unto God, and away from man thinking he has a part in this great salvation provided by God, secured by His Son for God's elect.

 

[jeremiah1five]

The New Testament speaks of Jesus having faith or trust in God in three specific ways: through a direct quote attributed to Him, through the specific wording of the "faith of Christ" passages (preserved clearly in the KJV), and through the testimony of those who watched Him die.

Here are the specific places in the King James Version (KJV):

This is the most direct verse in the entire New Testament where Jesus Himself speaks of His reliance upon the Father. The writer of Hebrews attributes these words directly to Jesus:

9 But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honour; that he by the grace of God should taste death for every man.
10 For it became him, for whom are all things, and by whom are all things, in bringing many sons unto glory, to make the captain of their salvation perfect through sufferings.
11 For both he that sanctifieth and they who are sanctified are all of one: for which cause he is not ashamed to call them brethren,
12 Saying, I will declare thy name unto my brethren, in the midst of the church will I sing praise unto thee.
13 And again, I will put my trust in him. And again, Behold I and the children which God hath given me.
Hebrews 2:9–13.

In modern translations, phrases like "faith of Christ" are often changed to "faith in Christ." However, the KJV preserves the literal Greek distinction which suggests it is Jesus' own faith (His faithfulness to the Father) that saves us.

22 Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference: Romans 3:22.

16 Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified. Galatians 2:15–16.

22 But the scripture hath concluded all under sin, that the promise by faith of Jesus Christ might be given to them that believe. Galatians 3:22.

9 And be found in him, not having mine own righteousness, which is of the law, but that which is through the faith of Christ, the righteousness which is of God by faith: Philippians 3:9.

In these verses, the text distinguishes between our belief and His faith.

Even the enemies of Jesus, while mocking Him on the cross, admitted that His life was characterized by trust in God.

43 He trusted in God; let him deliver him now, if he will have him: for he said, I am the Son of God. Matthew 27:43.

Trust is most clearly seen when handing over something of value. In His final moment, Jesus quotes Psalm 31:5 to entrust His spirit to the Father.

5 Into thine hand I commit my spirit:
Thou hast redeemed me, O LORD God of truth.
Psalms 31:5.

46 And when Jesus had cried with a loud voice, he said, Father, into thy hands I commend my spirit: and having said thus, he gave up the ghost. Luke 23:46.

Jesus was man. Jesus was God. As a man He lived under the Law. One of the things that Jesus would have to have is faith, or trust, in God His Father.
His prayers as a man would have the quality of faith in God that what He asked in faith - nothing wavering - God would grant Him.
Another necessity that Jesus as a man would have to have is faith in God - perfect faith - that would be the faith that men could not have and on whose behalf His faith is a faith that God would honor and to substitute for our weak and failing faith.

The New Testament identifies this most clearly in the book of Hebrews, which provides the theological statement that He experienced our condition "in all things." The Gospels then provide the specific historical evidence of those experiences. Here are the key passages in the King James Version (KJV):

The book of Hebrews explicitly states that it was necessary for Jesus to be made like us to function as our High Priest. He was made like us "in all things."

17 Wherefore in all things it behoved him to be made like unto his brethren, that he might be a merciful and faithful high priest in things pertaining to God, to make reconciliation for the sins of the people.
18 For in that he himself hath suffered being tempted, he is able to succour them that are tempted.
Hebrews 2:17–18.

Think about that for a second. And take a look at the word "behoved" [Strong's Greek #3784.] I won't get sidetracked by definitions but in order to understand what men, specifically those that the Father gave to the Son (John 17), was "to be made like unto His brethren" including our experiences having to do with having faith or trusting in God, which is His [Father's] command and His expectation of us. I've already proved through Scripture that faith is not among the terms included in any of the three Hebrew covenants (Abrahamic, Mosaic, and New) as being required components of covenant - like circumcision, but that while being in covenant with God the dynamic of faith is evident in each relationship between God and individuals recorded in Scripture. Let's take Abraham. The Abrahamic Covenant is found recorded in Genesis 12, 15, and 17. In these chapters we read in detail the promises God makes to Abraham and the one thing God required of Abraham - and it wasn't faith, but circumcision. Circumcision - not faith - was required of Abraham and Abraham performed it as instructed by God.

He feels our infirmities (weaknesses) and temptations.

15 For we have not an high priest which cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities; but was in all points tempted like as we are, yet without sin. Hebrews 4:15.

He learned through suffering.

8 Though he were a Son, yet learned he obedience by the things which he suffered; Hebrews 5:8.

The physical proofs (the Gospels.) The Gospels record Jesus experiencing the specific limitations and biological needs of the human body.

Hunger:

2 And when he had fasted forty days and forty nights, he was afterward an hungred. Matthew 4:2.

Thirst:

28 After this, Jesus knowing that all things were now accomplished, that the scripture might be fulfilled, saith, I thirst. John 19:28.

Exhaustion/Weariness:

6 Now Jacob’s well was there. Jesus therefore, being wearied with his journey, sat thus on the well: and it was about the sixth hour. John 4:6.

Sleep (Need for rest):

24 And, behold, there arose a great tempest in the sea, insomuch that the ship was covered with the waves: but he was asleep. Matthew 8:24.

And there is more. The point being that in order to be our High Priest who is made like unto us, Jesus would also have to have faith in God like unto us "in all things" in this life including having faith in God. We experience having to have faith in God for those things which we have to do. While Jesus' faith was perfect and never wavering there were times He experienced what we go through where faith in God is part of our experience in this life. Here is one example of Jesus' faith in God on display:

33 When Jesus therefore saw her weeping, and the Jews also weeping which came with her, he groaned in the spirit, and was troubled,
34 And said, Where have ye laid him? They said unto him, Lord, come and see.
35 Jesus wept.
36 Then said the Jews, Behold how he loved him!
37 And some of them said, Could not this man, which opened the eyes of the blind, have caused that even this man should not have died?
38 Jesus therefore again groaning in himself cometh to the grave. John 11:33–38.

Verse 37 speaks of preventing Lazarus from dying, and Jesus does not yet know what He was going to do. But He quickly decides on the 'other side' of that statement in verse 37 to call him (Lazarus) back to life.

39 Jesus said, Take ye away the stone. Martha, the sister of him that was dead, saith unto him, Lord, by this time he stinketh: for he hath been dead four days.
40 Jesus saith unto her, Said I not unto thee, that, if thou wouldest believe, thou shouldest see the glory of God?
41 Then they took away the stone from the place where the dead was laid. And Jesus lifted up his eyes, and said, Father, I thank thee that thou hast heard me.
42 And I knew that thou hearest me always: but because of the people which stand by I said it, that they may believe that thou hast sent me.
43 And when he thus had spoken, he cried with a loud voice, Lazarus, come forth.
44 And he that was dead came forth, bound hand and foot with graveclothes: and his face was bound about with a napkin. Jesus saith unto them, Loose him, and let him go.
John 11:39–44.

I would think that if Jesus knew before He arrived in Bethany that He was going to raise Lazarus I don't think He would be grieving and groan within Himself. Now, did Jesus receive instructions from God to raise Lazarus? I don't think so. The decision was squarely Jesus' prerogative. When He chose to raise Lazarus Jesus prayed to God, He petitioned God, asked, if you will, to call him forth. Even before He instructed to have the stone removed, He knew He was going to ask God to raise him. The command to remove the stone itself is an act of faith. Works without faith is dead and faith without works is dead. The stone came BEFORE the prayer. With that He already knew what the Father's will was but He prayed it like He said, for the benefit of those who heard Him [pray.]

In order to be our High Priest who is touched by the feeling of our infirmities Jesus would have to have faith in God as a man and as our substitute and to experience what we experience when our faith is tested as His was in the desert in Matthew 4. In this Jesus knows what we go through when we are instructed to "have faith in God."
Jesus' passion in Gethsemane is another example and Jesus' faith exhibited. Three times Jesus asked - hoped - His cup pass but in the end He gathered His will, brought it into sync with the Father's will, and accepted what was destined to follow. He learned "faith" because we learned "faith" in this life. That dynamic is part of His life as a man because it is our part as a man and our experience in our lives. Jesus had the faith that we couldn't perform. It was His faith that God honored and through His faith that all who are predestined to be saved are saved. He paid a debt He did not owe, I owed a debt I could not pay...I NEEDED SOMEONE!
Not only 'wash away my sins', but to have faith in God that I will fail at times to uphold for myself. That's why I am saved. His faith was substituted for mine - or should I say, for mine that failed - at a time when it counted most.
As my Intercessor, my cry to God to "save me" is His cry that exerted the faith I lacked which did save me and for this I am eternally grateful that Christ was all things I am not, and His faith to God for my salvation was perfect when I had none. My Intercessor had the faith I lacked, and a faith God honored, through which I am redeemed. He gets ALL the glory. For it was His faith in God that saved me. I was dead in trespasses and sin and my cry of "Who shall go before me" was answered with, "Here, Am I. Send me.