I believe we sometimes impose our own interpretations onto a verse,
@DavidTree. There is no indication or hint of Ehyeh Asher Ehyeh in this passage.
Full Text in English (Literal Translation):
"And I have made Your name known to them,
Couple of inconsistencies
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Evaluation and Corrections
Exodus 3:14 – The Name "I AM WHO I AM" (אֶהְיֶה אֲשֶׁר אֶהְיֶה, Ehyeh Asher Ehyeh)
The phrase Ehyeh Asher Ehyeh is typically rendered as "I AM WHO I AM" in English translations, though it can also mean "I WILL BE WHO I WILL BE," depending on context.
This is not the "unchangeable Name of Elohim" in the sense of the Tetragrammaton (YHWH). Instead, it emphasizes God's self-existence, eternal being, and unchanging nature.
The Tetragrammaton (YHWH) is introduced in verse 15 as God's covenant name, distinct from the declaration of Ehyeh.
Verse 15 – The Tetragrammaton (YHWH)
The text states: "Thus you shall say to the children of Israel, ‘YHWH, the God of your fathers, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, has sent me to you.’"
The Hebrew explicitly identifies YHWH as the covenant name of God to be remembered forever.
Elohim as "Plural"
The word Elohim (אֱלֹהִים) is plural in form but grammatically singular when referring to the one true God, indicating majesty or completeness rather than numeric plurality
. It does not imply distinct "persons" in the text of Exodus 3.
Associating Elohim with a trinitarian framework (Father, Son, Holy Spirit) is a theological interpretation not explicit in this passage.
The God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob
The description of "Elohe of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob" reflects God’s covenant faithfulness to the patriarchs,
not a trinitarian formula:
Abraham: Represents God's covenant and promises.
Isaac: Represents the fulfillment of the covenant (through his miraculous birth).
Jacob: Represents God's continued faithfulness despite human weakness.
God’s Memorial Name
The statement "This is My name forever, and this is My memorial to all generations" refers specifically to YHWH, not to "I AM" or Ehyeh.
Suggested Revision
Here is a more accurate rendering of the intended meaning while removing theological extrapolations not explicit in the text:
Thus the eternal, unchanging Name of God was revealed to Moses when the LORD spoke from the fire:
Exodus 3:14-15 (NKJV)
"And God said to Moses, ‘I AM WHO I AM (Ehyeh Asher Ehyeh).’ And He said, ‘Thus you shall say to the children of Israel, “I AM (Ehyeh) has sent me to you.”’
Moreover, God said to Moses, ‘Thus you shall say to the children of Israel: “YHWH, the God of your fathers, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, has sent me to you. This is My name forever, and this is My memorial to all generations.”’
Key Points:
YHWH is the covenant name of God revealed as a memorial for all generations.
Ehyeh Asher Ehyeh emphasizes God's eternal and self-existent nature but is not synonymous with YHWH.
The text does not explicitly present a trinitarian structure (Father, Son, Holy Spirit) in connection with "the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob."
This revision preserves the integrity of the biblical text while avoiding theological interpretations that are not directly supported by the passage.
We need to be careful.
J.
d I will make it known, so that the love with which You have loved Me may be in them, and I in them."
Joh 17:25 Avi HaTzaddik, indeed the world did not have da'as of You, but I knew You, and these ones knew that You sent me.
Joh 17:26 And I have made known to them the Shem of You and will make it known, that the ahavah with which You loved me may be in them and I in them.
2. Key Greek Words and Syntax
"And I have made known (ἐγνώρισα) to them (αὐτοῖς) the name (τὸ ὄνομά) of You (σου)."
ἐγνώρισα (egnōrisa): Aorist active indicative, first-person singular. This verb means "I have made known." It indicates completed action, suggesting Jesus has already revealed the name of the Father to His disciples.
αὐτοῖς (autois): Dative plural masculine. Refers to "them," i.e., the disciples.
τὸ ὄνομά (to onoma): Accusative singular neuter. The direct object, meaning "the name."
σου (sou): Second-person singular genitive pronoun, "of You." Refers to the Father.
"And I will make it known (γνωρίσω)."
γνωρίσω (gnōrisō): Future active indicative, first-person singular. This verb means "I will make known," indicating Jesus' ongoing work of revealing God's name to His followers.
"So that (ἵνα) the love (ἡ ἀγάπη) with which You loved Me (ἠγάπησας) may be in them (ἐν αὐτοῖς)."
ἵνα (hina): A conjunction introducing a purpose clause. It connects Jesus' declaration of God's name to the result of divine love being in His followers.
ἡ ἀγάπη (hē agapē): Nominative singular feminine. Refers to "the love."
ἠγάπησας (ēgapēsas): Aorist active indicative, second-person singular. The verb means "You loved," referring to the Father's love for the Son.
ἐν αὐτοῖς (en autois): Prepositional phrase, "in them," meaning the love of God resides in the disciples.
"And I in them (κἀγὼ ἐν αὐτοῖς)."
κἀγὼ (kagō): A compound of "and" (καί) and "I" (ἐγώ). It emphasizes Jesus' personal presence in His disciples.
ἐν αὐτοῖς (en autois): "In them," referring to Jesus' indwelling presence in His followers.
3. Meaning of "Name" (ὄνομα, onoma) in Context
The word ὄνομα (onoma) in biblical usage signifies more than a literal name; it represents:
Character and Nature: To "declare the name" of God means to reveal His character, will, and attributes.
Authority: A name often signifies authority and power (e.g., invoking God's name in prayer).
Relationship: In this context, Jesus is revealing God as a loving Father to His followers, emphasizing intimacy and personal connection.
Thus, "Your name" refers to God the Father and encompasses His essence, attributes, and relationship with humanity.
4. Whose Name Is Declared?
The name Jesus declares is the Father's name (σου, sou, "of You"). This is consistent with the surrounding verses in John 17, where Jesus speaks directly to the Father.
Jesus' ministry reveals the Father’s name through His teachings, actions, and the example of His own life. This includes revealing God's love, holiness, and redemptive plan.
5. Implications of Jesus Declaring the Father's Name
Past Revelation ("I have made known"): Jesus had already revealed the Father to His disciples
through His words and actions.
Ongoing Revelation ("I will make it known"): Jesus continues to reveal the Father
through the Spirit and the growth of the church.
Purpose ("so that the love...may be in them"): The ultimate goal of this revelation is relational-bringing God's love into the hearts of His followers and uniting them with God through Jesus.
In John 17:26, the name being declared is that of God the Father.
Jesus reveals this name
by embodying and teaching the Father's nature, love, and purposes. The declaration is not merely about a literal pronunciation but about unveiling the fullness of who God is-
His character, authority, and relationship with His people.
{a) [I have declared unto them thy name] Ten "I have's" of John 17;
1. I have glorified Thee on earth (Jn. 17:4)
2. Finished Thy work (Jn. 17:4)
3. Manifested Thy name (Jn. 17:6)
4. Given them Thy words (Jn. 17:8)
5. Kept them (Jn. 17:12)
6. Given them Thy word (Jn. 17:14)
7. Sent them into the world, as You sent Me (Jn. 17:18)
8. Given them Thy glory (Jn. 17:22)
9. Known Thee (Jn. 17:25)
10. Declared unto them Thy name (Jn. 17:26)
{b) [them] There are 169 pronouns used in this prayer. Plural pronouns are used of God and Christ in the same sense as used of disciples, proving plurality of persons in the Godhead (Jn. 17:11,21-23). There are 65 singular personal pronouns used of Christ and 53 of the Father; 43 plural pronouns are used of God and disciples.
1) "And I have declared unto them thy name," (kai egnorisa autois to onoma sou) "And I have made known your name directly to them," Mat_6:9,
by His Words and by His deeds; In all that He did He reflected the character, image, or attributes of His Father, Joh_4:34; Joh_6:38; Heb_1:3; Col_1:15; Col_2:9.
2) "And will declare it;" (kai gnoriso) "And I will make it further known," to them, in future sufferings, the resurrection, and giving them the Great Commission, and in sending the Holy Spirit to bear witness of me as your Son, who has come to redeem the world to your glory, even to the restitution of all things, Joh_16:13; Rom_8:17-23; Act_3:20-21.
John 17:1-26
Contents: Jesus’ prayer of intercession.
Characters:
God, Jesus, disciples, Judas.
Conclusion: If God be our Father, we have an intercessor to appear for us continually to guarantee our safe delivery to the haven above and our keeping along the way. He prays not for the world but for those who are His, that they might be preserved in their salvation, that they might have His joy, that they might be fortified against the evils of the world, that they might be purified through His Word, that they might manifest oneness with Him, that they might be edified in Him and at last behold His glory.
Key Word: Intercession, Joh_17:9.
Strong Verses: Joh_17:3, Joh_17:11, Joh_17:17, Joh_17:18, Joh_17:21, Joh_17:24.
Striking Facts: This prayer, to which there is no “Amen” attached, is believed to be typical of that perfect intercession of our High Priest in heaven. (Heb_7:25.) One who has the support of this prayer, as a true child of God, cannot be lost. Peter, when he fell, was kept by the intercession of Jesus. Judas (Joh_17:12), when he fell, fell eternally, not being a true believer (Joh_6:70-71).
Shalom.
J.
