Shema Israel and identifying Jesus as Jehovah/Yahweh

ERROR, JESUS is GOD who is the Master-Worker. Wisdom is the PERSON GOD who is Jesus. your wisdom is not separate from you. my God what's wrong with people. if 101G say your wisdom is terrible, is your wisdom is a separate person or thing from YOU? don't be silly. your wisdom is you. just as God wisdom is HIM. come on people THINK.

ANOTHER ERROR on your PART. there is no one but one Person at Genesis 1:26 and 27... can you understand that? listen to the Lord Jesus who cannot LIE, Listen. Matthew 19:4 "And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female," How many is "he?" only ONE PERSON. God is one person. in Genesis 1:26 he is foretelling us that he, he, he, is coming in his, his, his, OWN, OWN, OWN, IMAGE. my God how hard is it to understand. the US and the OUR in Genesis 1:26 is the IMAGE of God that was to come. supportive scripture, Isaiah 46:10 "Declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times the things that are not yet done, saying, My counsel shall stand, and I will do all my pleasure:" K do you understand that?

are you that IGNORANT? scripture, Isaiah 44:24 "Thus saith the LORD, thy redeemer, and he that formed thee from the womb, I am the LORD that maketh all things; that stretcheth forth the heavens alone; that spreadeth abroad the earth by myself;" he was ALONE, and BY HIMSELF which answer your ERRIOUS assessment above. listen and learn. the term ALONE means, "having no one else present". and the term "BY HIMSELF" means, using the Noah Webster's 1828 Dictionary of American English, "BY",
BY, prep.
1. Near; close; as, sit by me; that house stands by a river.
[L. pressus.]
2. Near, in motion; as, to move, go or pass by a church. But it seems, in other phrases,or with a verb in the past time, to signify past, gone beyond. "The procession is gone by;" "the hour is gone by;" "John went by." We now use past as an equivalent word. The procession is gone past. Gone by is in strictness tautology, as now used; but I apprehend by signifies primarily near.
3. Through, or with, denoting the agent, means, instrument or cause; as, "a city is destroyed by fire;" "profit is made by commerce;" "to take by force." This use answers to that of the Latin per, through, denoting a passing, acting, agency, or instrumentality.

THROUGH? yes THROUGH or "BY" HIMSELF, just as Isaiah said, "that stretcheth forth the heavens alone; that spreadeth abroad the earth by myself;". my God this is too easy. he was ALONE and acted "BY" HIMSELF..... Oh boy, when will they ever LEARN.

look K, just read ..... and here read the dictionary by Noah Webster's 1828 Dictionary of American English. then you would have understood the term through. the agent or master worker was he HIMSELF.... for he WAS "alone" .... and by, by, by, Himself. which means there was no one to go through... hello. and also by being alone, that eliminates any two or three person Godhead.

is this clear? .... if you have any questions, just ask. 101G is here to help you, ok.

101G.
Collective nouns can take singular pronouns

Are collective nouns singular or plural?

Although they refer to multiple things at once by definition, collective nouns are singular in form. This can make choosing the right verb to use with a collective noun when it’s the subject of a sentence or clause (that is, maintaining subject-verb agreement) a bit tricky—it’s almost like they’re plural and singular at the same time!

Collective Nouns 1 Corinthians 5:9-13 Introduction: This is not just an English lesson, but it is a lesson that addresses several different topics. Topics like withdrawal, benevolence and the support of widows are all affected by our understanding of collective nouns. Properly understanding collective nouns will help us come to a proper understanding of God’s instructions in these topics. I. Definition - Collective nouns. A. “A collective noun is a singular noun that names a group of people or things (a collection). These nouns may take a singular or a plural verb, depending on meaning.” [Student Handbook, The Southwestern Company, p. 8] B. Biblical examples: congregation, herd, flock, family, church, brethren. II. The problem with collective nouns. A. Is the collective noun singular action or individual action? Did it occur as a unit or individually? B. Example of individual action: Acts 12:5, the collective noun church is found. The verse says the church prayed for Peter. There is no indication that the church was assembled (ref. Acts 14:27). Did the church pray together as a unit or did they pray individually? How do we know? C. Example of unit action: 1 Tim. 5:16, the collective noun “church” is found. It seems obvious from the context that the phrase, “let not the church be charged,” means do not take it out of the church treasury. But how do we know? III. The solution. A. Determining whether the collective noun indicates unit action or individual action is solved by looking at the pronoun that refers to the collective noun. “A pronoun which refers to a collective noun is singular if the group acts as a unit; but the pronoun is plural if the individuals of the group acts as individuals.” [Plain English Handbook, Walsh, p. 27.] B. For example: ““The club voted to change its meeting time and location.” The singular is used above because the meeting time and location are for the entire club as one unit. “The city council argued among themselves.” The plural is correct in this example because the individual council members were arguing.” [Student Handbook, The Southwestern Company, p. 12] IV. Application. A. Applied to 1 Tim. 5:16. “... and do not let the church be burdened, that it (singular pronoun) may relieve those who are really widows.” This proves unit action. Therefore, it means the church treasury should not be used in this case. B. Applied to Gal. 6:10. “... as we (plural pronoun) have opportunity, let us (plural pronoun) do good to all...” The collective noun for these pronouns is brethren in Gal. 6:1. This proves individual action. Therefore, each of us should do good. C. Applied to 2 Thes. 3:6ff. “...brethren, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that you withdraw from every brother who walks disorderly... For you yourselves (plural pronoun) know how you ought to follow us...” The pronoun “you” can be singular or plural; therefore, it is inconclusive. However, “yourselves” is plural making it clear we are talking about individual action. Some people argue that withdrawal is a church action (Matt. 18:17); therefore, the individual can still fellowship an erring brother as long as he doesn’t do so as the church. Yet, this proves it is the work of individual members to withdraw our fellowship (2 Cor. 2:6). D. In fact, many books of the Bible are written to particular churches. Collective nouns are common throughout these writings. However, if we pay attention to the pronouns that refer to the collective noun, then we will clearly understand whether we have unit action or individual action. Let’s try 1 Cor. 5:9-13. The pronouns “you” and “yourselves” are referring back to the collective noun in 1 Cor. 4:6 of “brethren.” We understand “yourselves” is plural and therefore “you” is plural as well. This means Paul is giving instruction for the individual members to observe. In particular, we as individuals are not to keep company with a marked brother. Conclusion: The proper understanding of collective nouns will insure a proper understanding of the meaning of many passages. We can also see how some people come to the wrong conclusions when they don’t apply these basic English grammar rules. We have been charged to properly divide the Word of Truth (2 Tim. 2:15). Let us always strive to do the same.
 
ERROR, JESUS is GOD who is the Master-Worker. Wisdom is the PERSON GOD who is Jesus. your wisdom is not separate from you. my God what's wrong with people. if 101G say your wisdom is terrible, is your wisdom is a separate person or thing from YOU? don't be silly. your wisdom is you. just as God wisdom is HIM. come on people THINK.

ANOTHER ERROR on your PART. there is no one but one Person at Genesis 1:26 and 27... can you understand that? listen to the Lord Jesus who cannot LIE, Listen. Matthew 19:4 "And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female," How many is "he?" only ONE PERSON. God is one person. in Genesis 1:26 he is foretelling us that he, he, he, is coming in his, his, his, OWN, OWN, OWN, IMAGE. my God how hard is it to understand. the US and the OUR in Genesis 1:26 is the IMAGE of God that was to come. supportive scripture, Isaiah 46:10 "Declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times the things that are not yet done, saying, My counsel shall stand, and I will do all my pleasure:" K do you understand that?

are you that IGNORANT? scripture, Isaiah 44:24 "Thus saith the LORD, thy redeemer, and he that formed thee from the womb, I am the LORD that maketh all things; that stretcheth forth the heavens alone; that spreadeth abroad the earth by myself;" he was ALONE, and BY HIMSELF which answer your ERRIOUS assessment above. listen and learn. the term ALONE means, "having no one else present". and the term "BY HIMSELF" means, using the Noah Webster's 1828 Dictionary of American English, "BY",
BY, prep.
1. Near; close; as, sit by me; that house stands by a river.
[L. pressus.]
2. Near, in motion; as, to move, go or pass by a church. But it seems, in other phrases,or with a verb in the past time, to signify past, gone beyond. "The procession is gone by;" "the hour is gone by;" "John went by." We now use past as an equivalent word. The procession is gone past. Gone by is in strictness tautology, as now used; but I apprehend by signifies primarily near.
3. Through, or with, denoting the agent, means, instrument or cause; as, "a city is destroyed by fire;" "profit is made by commerce;" "to take by force." This use answers to that of the Latin per, through, denoting a passing, acting, agency, or instrumentality.

THROUGH? yes THROUGH or "BY" HIMSELF, just as Isaiah said, "that stretcheth forth the heavens alone; that spreadeth abroad the earth by myself;". my God this is too easy. he was ALONE and acted "BY" HIMSELF..... Oh boy, when will they ever LEARN.

look K, just read ..... and here read the dictionary by Noah Webster's 1828 Dictionary of American English. then you would have understood the term through. the agent or master worker was he HIMSELF.... for he WAS "alone" .... and by, by, by, Himself. which means there was no one to go through... hello. and also by being alone, that eliminates any two or three person Godhead.

is this clear? .... if you have any questions, just ask. 101G is here to help you, ok.

101G.
Fact-Jesus has a God-- FACT--God does not have a God.
 
Fact-Jesus has a God-- FACT--God does not have a God.
LOL, LOL, LOL, Oh dear. listen carefully. Hebrews 1:8 "But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom." Hebrews 1:9 "Thou hast loved righteousness, and hated iniquity; therefore God, even thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows." Hebrews 1:10 "And, Thou, Lord, in the beginning hast laid the foundation of the earth; and the heavens are the works of thine hands:"

thy God? YES, YES, YES, in flesh, YES, in the ECHAD of First and Last? YES, now listen agent K, Hebrews 1:10 "And, Thou, Lord, in the beginning hast laid the foundation of the earth; and the heavens are the works of thine hands:" WHO LAID THE FOUNDATION OF THE EARTH? listen.... Zechariah 12:1 "The burden of the word of the LORD for Israel, saith the LORD, which stretcheth forth the heavens, and layeth the foundation of the earth, and formeth the spirit of man within him."

now agent K tell us who laid the foundation of the EARTH? the LORD or the Lord.... (smile)... Think before you answer. FACT JESUS IS THE ONLY LIVING and TRUE GOD...... (smile) :eek: YIKES!

will be looking for your answer.

101G.
 
Godwill show you. But then its to late. I am showing you now. Jesus was created.
You failed to rebut the logic

God always had Wisdom. Jesus became Wisdom by doing his Fathers will 100% of the time.
If God always had wisdom and wisdom is a reference to Jesus


Then it does not point to him being created, And your argument is a failure

If Wisdom is not a reference to The pre-existent word

God always had Wisdom. Jesus became Wisdom by doing his Fathers will 100% of the time.
If God always had wisdom and wisdom is a reference to Jesus


Then it does not point to him being created, And your argument is a failure
 
LOL, LOL, LOL, Oh dear. listen carefully. Hebrews 1:8 "But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom." Hebrews 1:9 "Thou hast loved righteousness, and hated iniquity; therefore God, even thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows." Hebrews 1:10 "And, Thou, Lord, in the beginning hast laid the foundation of the earth; and the heavens are the works of thine hands:"

thy God? YES, YES, YES, in flesh, YES, in the ECHAD of First and Last? YES, now listen agent K, Hebrews 1:10 "And, Thou, Lord, in the beginning hast laid the foundation of the earth; and the heavens are the works of thine hands:" WHO LAID THE FOUNDATION OF THE EARTH? listen.... Zechariah 12:1 "The burden of the word of the LORD for Israel, saith the LORD, which stretcheth forth the heavens, and layeth the foundation of the earth, and formeth the spirit of man within him."

now agent K tell us who laid the foundation of the EARTH? the LORD or the Lord.... (smile)... Think before you answer. FACT JESUS IS THE ONLY LIVING and TRUE GOD...... (smile) :eek: YIKES!

will be looking for your answer.

101G.
Your translations are corrupt to fit false council teachings= 100% fact of life--you better relook.
 
Sorry that appears to be but an assumption on your part

John 8:17–18 (KJV 1900) — 17 It is also written in your law, that the testimony of two men is true. 18 I am one that bear witness of myself, and the Father that sent me beareth witness of me.

Two
The FATHER and the SON bear Witness to each other = EQUALITY = ECHAD
 
Book of Hebrews EQUATES Jesus the Son with God His Father

Wake UP to the Righteousness of God which is in JESUS CHRIST our LORD
In Catholicism error translating it does. But at Heb 1:4 is 100% clear--If God didn't give Jesus the name Jesus he was equal to the angels. Same at Psalm 45:7--You loved righteousness and hated wickedness that is why God-your God anointed you with the oil of exultation more than your (fellows( partners) = angels.
 
Jesus= The Father is greater than i.= 0 equality, All authority and judging had to be given to Jesus, only one greater can give those things. If Jesus were God he would of already had all authority.
ABSOLUTELY = when God came to earth and humbled HIMSELF when HE took on the 'form' of a man.

EQUALITY = John 17

I have glorified You on the earth. I have finished the work which You have given Me to do.
And now, O Father, glorify Me together with Yourself,
with the Glory which I had with You before the world was.
 
In Catholicism error translating it does. But at Heb 1:4 is 100% clear--If God didn't give Jesus the name Jesus he was equal to the angels. Same at Psalm 45:7--You loved righteousness and hated wickedness that is why God-your God anointed you with the oil of exultation more than your (fellows( partners) = angels.
the WORD, who was God in the Beginning, created the angels and all that you see and cannot see.

The WORD became flesh and dwelt among us = IMMANUEL = God with us.

Hebrews speaks of the WORD from Heaven becoming flesh = same as Gospel of John and the OT Prophets

Revelation shows us that the Lord Jesus Christ is worshipped in Heaven as HE stands in the midst of the Throne of God

It is IMPOSSIBLE for your or anyone to know FATHER Elohim apart from the Lord Jesus Christ
 
Jesus= The Father is greater than i.= 0 equality, All authority and judging had to be given to Jesus, only one greater can give those things. If Jesus were God he would of already had all authority.
Greater does not mean better nor is a denial they are of the same essence

A boss is greater than his employee

A father is greater than his son
 
ABSOLUTELY = when God came to earth and humbled HIMSELF when HE took on the 'form' of a man.

EQUALITY = John 17

I have glorified You on the earth. I have finished the work which You have given Me to do.
And now, O Father, glorify Me together with Yourself,
with the Glory which I had with You before the world was.
See if you believed Jesus over error you would know-John 17:3-- The only true God sent Jesus, he did not come down here.
Yes the glory of being by Gods side as his master worker( Prov 8:30.) The one whom God grew especially fond of.
 
the WORD, who was God in the Beginning, created the angels and all that you see and cannot see.

The WORD became flesh and dwelt among us = IMMANUEL = God with us.

Hebrews speaks of the WORD from Heaven becoming flesh = same as Gospel of John and the OT Prophets

Revelation shows us that the Lord Jesus Christ is worshipped in Heaven as HE stands in the midst of the Throne of God

It is IMPOSSIBLE for your or anyone to know FATHER Elohim apart from the Lord Jesus Christ
Again you refuse to believe bible facts over errors. God=YHVH(Jehovah) created all other things-THROUGH- his master worker--He created his master worker direct-first and last--Bible proof ONE is the creator=Gen 1:27,,Prov 8:27-28--Isaiah 40:26--All show HE--not we created. Your religions twist Gen 1:26=Let us, But verse 27 says HE, not we, Us= YHVH(Jehovah) and his master worker=100% bible fact.
 
Greater does not mean better nor is a denial they are of the same essence

A boss is greater than his employee

A father is greater than his son
And Jehovah commands Jesus because Jehovah is the most high over all the earth( Psalm 83:18) Its why Jesus has to subject himself to his God and Father after he hands the kingdom back( 1Cor 15:24-28)-- You just keep refusing to believe bible truth.
 
See if you believed Jesus over error you would know-John 17:3-- The only true God sent Jesus, he did not come down here.
Yes the glory of being by Gods side as his master worker( Prov 8:30.) The one whom God grew especially fond of.
Hebrews 10:5
Therefore, when He came into the world, He said:
“Sacrifice and offering You did not desire,
But a body You have prepared for Me.

Who is the "He" that came into the world???
 
Again you refuse to believe bible facts over errors. God=YHVH(Jehovah) created all other things-THROUGH- his master worker--He created his master worker direct-first and last--Bible proof ONE is the creator=Gen 1:27,,Prov 8:27-28--Isaiah 40:26--All show HE--not we created. Your religions twist Gen 1:26=Let us, But verse 27 says HE, not we, Us= YHVH(Jehovah) and his master worker=100% bible fact.
Genesis 1:26 "Let Us make man in Our image according to Our likeness." = 3

Genesis 1:27 Elohim(PLURAL) created man in His own image; in the image of Elohim(PLURAL) He created him; male and female He created them. = 3

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
He was in the beginning with God.
All things were made through Him, and without Him nothing was made that was made.


Why are you blind to the TRUTH???
 
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