PSA as central to the Gospel

DavidTree said:
JESUS and the apostles declare that the Scripture are the very words of God = JESUS Himself being the Source with His FATHER and the Holy Spirit

1.) Then Jesus was led up by the Spirit into the wilderness to be tempted by the devil. And when He had fasted forty days and forty nights, afterward He was hungry. Now when the tempter came to Him, he said, “If You are the Son of God, command that these stones become bread.”
But He answered and said, It is written, ‘Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceeds from the mouth of God.’

2.) You search the Scriptures, for in them you think you have eternal life; and these are they which testify of Me.

3.) But Jesus said to him, “Put your sword in its place, for all who take the sword will perish by the sword.
Or do you think that I cannot now pray to My Father, and He will provide Me with more than twelve legions of angels?
How then could the Scriptures be fulfilled, that it must happen thus?”

4.) All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness, that the man of God may be complete, thoroughly equipped for every good work.

5.) On the last day, that great day of the feast, Jesus stood and cried out, saying, “If anyone thirsts, let him come to Me and drink.
He who believes in Me, as the Scripture has said, out of his heart will flow rivers of living water.”

A.) He who believes in ME
B.) as the Scripture says
C.)out of his heart will flow rivers of Living Water

God is Spirit, His Word is Spirit, the Holy Spirit is Spirit = ETERNAL LIFE

SHALOM
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So many assumptions. I read that defense decades ago from someone else. Not from you. You got that defense from another man. You didn't get it from God. God would have never said what you just said because He can't lie.

1. What manuscript was being used when those words was written and in what language were they written?

2. If you listen to the Spirit of God, then why do you need those words?
 
praise_yeshua said:
That "word" you're referencing came from the human languages of men. Is there a heavenly language? Letting "God be true" isn't about referencing the English version you prefer.
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Seeing none of us have seen GOD face to face let us know and understand two things .
We who beleive IN JESUS are connected TO HIM by THE SPIRIT .
And
HIS SPIRIT would never contradict HIS words of TRUTH in the BIBLE .
Pretty simple .
IF any spirit that a man heeds IS contradicting the words of scripture
Then let us know and understand it cometh NOT OF GOD .
Only a flesh pleaser would contradict the words of GOD in order to cause rebellion .
And that flesh pleaser does not desire the good of humanity
and so it feeds their flesh a lie . And it can make the lie appear so loving and so kind .
But it is a liar and only feeds man the pleasures of his flesh for to keep man in the blackness of darkness .
Satan is a liar and please beleive me when i say
he has many co workers. Many of which can also appear to wear wool . SO be on guard my f riend .
 
Tothalordbeallglory said:
Seeing none of us have seen GOD face to face let us know and understand two things .
We who beleive IN JESUS are connected TO HIM by THE SPIRIT .
And
HIS SPIRIT would never contradict HIS words of TRUTH in the BIBLE .
Pretty simple .
IF any spirit that a man heeds IS contradicting the words of scripture
Then let us know and understand it cometh NOT OF GOD .
Only a flesh pleaser would contradict the words of GOD in order to cause rebellion .
And that flesh pleaser does not desire the good of humanity
and so it feeds their flesh a lie . And it can make the lie appear so loving and so kind .
But it is a liar and only feeds man the pleasures of his flesh for to keep man in the blackness of darkness .
Satan is a liar and please beleive me when i say
he has many co workers. Many of which can also appear to wear wool . SO be on guard my f riend .
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Simple? You just insisted that your bible is equal to God. That is what you insisted. I know that isn't true at all. I know God and I know your bible. They are not remotely the same. The quality of God is far above your bible of choice.

There are words of men in your bible. I can prove it. I can prove it hundreds of times over.

So stop this nonsense of insisting that your English bible of choice came directly from God. It didn't.

So I'll ask YOU the same thing I asked others.

1. What manuscript was being used when those words were written and in what language were they written?

2. If you listen to the Spirit of God, then why do you need those words? Did God write His words on your heart or in your bible?
 
civic said:
Will there be bibles in heaven after the new heavens and earth are recreated ?

I highly doubt it will be needed at all.
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Just imagine the privilege of praying and getting answers directly from God through the Holy Spirit.....

Only to look at what God did for someone in the bible and insist God do the same for you.

I believe it happens all the time. People trying to live the lives of others before them. Sometimes that is good. Sometimes that is bad.

Walking in the Spirit is much more than just understanding some English collection of writings. Much more.
 
praise_yeshua said:
Simple? You just insisted that your bible is equal to God. That is what you insisted. I know that isn't true at all. I know God and I know your bible. They are not remotely the same. The quality of God is far above your bible of choice.

There are words of men in your bible. I can prove it. I can prove it hundreds of times over.

So stop this nonsense of insisting that your English bible of choice came directly from God. It didn't.

So I'll ask YOU the same thing I asked others.

1. What manuscript was being used when those words were written and in what language were they written?

2. If you listen to the Spirit of God, then why do you need those words? Did God write His words on your heart or in your bible?
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There are things in the bible that i can see you have no desire to believe .
So allow me to make it real simple .
HOW MUCH WAS EVE LOVING GOD the day SHE DISOBEYED HIM . HIS WORDS , what HE TOLD HER .
You can try and twist things all day . But what i say to one i say to all
IF a man believes NOT what GOD said but rather makes a way around it
I tell us all they have chosen death rather than life .
GOD will NOT be denied . I bet you agree with that .
Just not so much with IF ONE denies HIS WORDS they too will be DENIED .
TO DENY what GOD has said IS TO DENY HIM . so go ahead accuse me all day of bibolarty
or etc
BUT IT AINT ME twisting and omitting HIS OWN INSPIRED WORDS . OOPSY did one just make a poopsy
cause i smell DUNG in the doctrine of many .
IF a man DENIES GOD he better prepare to wail
IF a man denies CHRIST , WELL HE has denied GOD .
IF a man denies His words , WELL welcome to the garden
Cause eve chose to NOT BELIEVE the words GOD had spoken
just as many today choose what to beleive and what not to beleive ABOUT HIS OWN INSPIRED WORDS .
Talk about a simple summation of ones faith . You aint SEEN GOD
I aint seen GOD
You aint seen CHRIST and i aint seen CHRIST
with our physical eyes .
How a man treats HIS INSPIRED WORDS of TRUTH is PROOF of whether one loveth HIM or not .
SO what ya gotta say now .
 
praise_yeshua said:
Just imagine the privilege of praying and getting answers directly from God through the Holy Spirit.....

Only to look at what God did for someone in the bible and insist God do the same for you.

I believe it happens all the time. People trying to live the lives of others before them. Sometimes that is good. Sometimes that is bad.

Walking in the Spirit is much more than just understanding some English collection of writings. Much more.
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Keep on twisting things and you see what occurs on the day of the LORD .
Using truths to promote a lie .
I already KNOW we can pray and HEAR directly from GOD through the HOLY SPIRIT .
ONLY i know IF what ones hears contradicts the scriptures , YOO HOO , IT AINT COMING FROM GOD .
Bible haters are a dime a dozen these days .
Twisters of doctrine unto their own destruction .
Many always try and act as though if a man treats the INSPIRED words of GOD
as THE ACTUAL WORDS OF GOD as if that man commits idolatry .
BUT HOW CAN LOVING the Words GOD spoke BE IDOLATRY . See how simple i can keep this .
ITs not me trying to find ways around HIs w ords , ITS YOU padnah . THAT IS IDOLATRY and IT IS BLASPHEMOUS .
oh i keep it real all right . How bout you . what do you have to say now .
 
civic said:
Will there be bibles in heaven after the new heavens and earth are recreated ?

I highly doubt it will be needed at all.
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what a lovely truth .
so now let us hear another .
WE AINT IN THE NEW heavens and new earth YET .
So till then lets test all things we do hear
against what is already written in the bible .
I already know there wont be bibles in the new heavens and new earth
JUST like we wont have these old bodies either .
BUT TILL THEN , BIBLE UP and lets test all men against such words .
And the words of those WHO DID HAVE A MORE SURE WORD of prophecy
WHEREUNTO we would be wise to take heed unto .
OH YEAH its bible time in the house .
What is today . OH yeah its october the sixteenth in the year two thousand and twenty five
TODAY is the day you heard this simple truth . And what you and others do with it
WELL that is not on me . I did my duty . I reminded .
 
praise_yeshua said:
Simple? You just insisted that your bible is equal to God. That is what you insisted. I know that isn't true at all. I know God and I know your bible. They are not remotely the same. The quality of God is far above your bible of choice.

There are words of men in your bible. I can prove it. I can prove it hundreds of times over.

So stop this nonsense of insisting that your English bible of choice came directly from God. It didn't.

So I'll ask YOU the same thing I asked others.

1. What manuscript was being used when those words were written and in what language were they written?

2. If you listen to the Spirit of God, then why do you need those words? Did God write His words on your heart or in your bible?
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This sounds nothing like what both paul and peter wrote to the church
as they both insisited on the dire importance OF KNOWING the scrips .
What are you gonna NOW TELL ME they didnt have the words of GOD upon their heart .
WE been decieved my friend . THe devil wants all OUT OF that bible
so as he can lead them by their own feelings and emotions .
You do realize there are many , oh so many
that can claim they too hear from GOD
YET WHY IS IT that we both KNOW they all dont .
COME Now , pope francis can claim such
KENNETH claims such as do many in the nar realm , as do many in the liberal progressive realm claim .
KINDA ODD cause they not only contradict one another THEY CONTRADICT GOD .
THEY twist scriptures and speak things contrary to the scrips . OOPSY
i smell poopsy . Always remember dung doctrine saveth none . GOD saves
THUS CHRIST saves , AND HE SURE had a lot to say in that bible .
WHICH I SUGGEST WE LEARN and test all men against .
 
Tothalordbeallglory said:
This sounds nothing like what both paul and peter wrote to the church
as they both insisited on the dire importance OF KNOWING the scrips .
What are you gonna NOW TELL ME they didnt have the words of GOD upon their heart .
WE been decieved my friend . THe devil wants all OUT OF that bible
so as he can lead them by their own feelings and emotions .
You do realize there are many , oh so many
that can claim they too hear from GOD
YET WHY IS IT that we both KNOW they all dont .
COME Now , pope francis can claim such
KENNETH claims such as do many in the nar realm , as do many in the liberal progressive realm claim .
KINDA ODD cause they not only contradict one another THEY CONTRADICT GOD .
THEY twist scriptures and speak things contrary to the scrips . OOPSY
i smell poopsy . Always remember dung doctrine saveth none . GOD saves
THUS CHRIST saves , AND HE SURE had a lot to say in that bible .
WHICH I SUGGEST WE LEARN and test all men against .
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@Tothalordbeallglory
“as also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.”
‭‭2 Peter‬ ‭3‬:‭16‬ ‭KJV‬‬
 
Tothalordbeallglory said:
what a lovely truth .
so now let us hear another .
WE AINT IN THE NEW heavens and new earth YET .
So till then lets test all things we do hear
against what is already written in the bible .
I already know there wont be bibles in the new heavens and new earth
JUST like we wont have these old bodies either .
BUT TILL THEN , BIBLE UP and lets test all men against such words .
And the words of those WHO DID HAVE A MORE SURE WORD of prophecy
WHEREUNTO we would be wise to take heed unto .
OH YEAH its bible time in the house .
What is today . OH yeah its october the sixteenth in the year two thousand and twenty five
TODAY is the day you heard this simple truth . And what you and others do with it
WELL that is not on me . I did my duty . I reminded .
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@Tothalordbeallglory
“and that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.”
‭‭2 Timothy‬ ‭3‬:‭15‬ ‭KJV‬‬
 
Tothalordbeallglory said:
Keep on twisting things and you see what occurs on the day of the LORD .
Using truths to promote a lie .
I already KNOW we can pray and HEAR directly from GOD through the HOLY SPIRIT .
ONLY i know IF what ones hears contradicts the scriptures , YOO HOO , IT AINT COMING FROM GOD .
Bible haters are a dime a dozen these days .
Twisters of doctrine unto their own destruction .
Many always try and act as though if a man treats the INSPIRED words of GOD
as THE ACTUAL WORDS OF GOD as if that man commits idolatry .
BUT HOW CAN LOVING the Words GOD spoke BE IDOLATRY . See how simple i can keep this .
ITs not me trying to find ways around HIs w ords , ITS YOU padnah . THAT IS IDOLATRY and IT IS BLASPHEMOUS .
oh i keep it real all right . How bout you . what do you have to say now .
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I don't hate any bible. I recognize them for what they are. Flawed representations of God. The Scriptures came from God. Your bible of choice came to you from the work of men.

I can't understand half of what you just wrote. How can I answer you if I don't understand what you're writing?

Please don't tell me that I need to know God to understand YOU.

I believe what Paul wrote that is translated into early modern English below in the KJV. How about practicing it.

1Co 14:8 For if the trumpet give an uncertain sound, who shall prepare himself to the battle?
1Co 14:9 So likewise ye, except ye utter by the tongue words easy to be understood, how shall it be known what is spoken? for ye shall speak into the air.
 
Tothalordbeallglory said:
This sounds nothing like what both paul and peter wrote to the church
as they both insisited on the dire importance OF KNOWING the scrips .
What are you gonna NOW TELL ME they didnt have the words of GOD upon their heart .
WE been decieved my friend . THe devil wants all OUT OF that bible
so as he can lead them by their own feelings and emotions .
You do realize there are many , oh so many
that can claim they too hear from GOD
YET WHY IS IT that we both KNOW they all dont .
COME Now , pope francis can claim such
KENNETH claims such as do many in the nar realm , as do many in the liberal progressive realm claim .
KINDA ODD cause they not only contradict one another THEY CONTRADICT GOD .
THEY twist scriptures and speak things contrary to the scrips . OOPSY
i smell poopsy . Always remember dung doctrine saveth none . GOD saves
THUS CHRIST saves , AND HE SURE had a lot to say in that bible .
WHICH I SUGGEST WE LEARN and test all men against .
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I'll ask again. When Paul and Peter both said what they said and wrote what they wrote (one in the same), they were not referencing the manuscript you're referencing today.

So again.

What manuscript?
 
Tothalordbeallglory said:
This sounds nothing like what both paul and peter wrote to the church
as they both insisited on the dire importance OF KNOWING the scrips .
What are you gonna NOW TELL ME they didnt have the words of GOD upon their heart .
WE been decieved my friend . THe devil wants all OUT OF that bible
so as he can lead them by their own feelings and emotions .
You do realize there are many , oh so many
that can claim they too hear from GOD
YET WHY IS IT that we both KNOW they all dont .
COME Now , pope francis can claim such
KENNETH claims such as do many in the nar realm , as do many in the liberal progressive realm claim .
KINDA ODD cause they not only contradict one another THEY CONTRADICT GOD .
THEY twist scriptures and speak things contrary to the scrips . OOPSY
i smell poopsy . Always remember dung doctrine saveth none . GOD saves
THUS CHRIST saves , AND HE SURE had a lot to say in that bible .
WHICH I SUGGEST WE LEARN and test all men against .
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Yep, yep, yep, yep, and AMEN. We all need that precious oil of God’s Word in our minds as a shield against that ol’ devil’s fiery darts of temptation. —selah

Ephesians 6:10-16 (KJV) 10 Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord, and in the power of his might. 11 Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil. 12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high [places]. 13 Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand. 14 Stand therefore, having your loins girt about with truth, and having on the breastplate of righteousness; 15 And your feet shod with the preparation of the gospel of peace; 16 Above all, taking the shield of faith, wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked.
 
Marvelloustime said:
@Tothalordbeallglory
“as also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.”
‭‭2 Peter‬ ‭3‬:‭16‬ ‭KJV‬‬
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I can understand Paul. I've been studying his writings in Greek for many many years.

Why do what you're doing? You're just blindly following what others say that Paul wrote.
 
praise_yeshua said:
So many assumptions. I read that defense decades ago from someone else. Not from you. You got that defense from another man. You didn't get it from God. God would have never said what you just said because He can't lie.

1. What manuscript was being used when those words was written and in what language were they written?

2. If you listen to the Spirit of God, then why do you need those words?
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How do you know anything about the Spirit of God? It Just popped in your head one day?
 
Selah said:
Yep, yep, yep, yep, and AMEN. We all need that precious oil of God’s Word in our minds as a shield against that ol’ devil’s fiery darts of temptation. —selah

Ephesians 6:10-16 (KJV) 10 Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord, and in the power of his might. 11 Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil. 12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high [places]. 13 Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand. 14 Stand therefore, having your loins girt about with truth, and having on the breastplate of righteousness; 15 And your feet shod with the preparation of the gospel of peace; 16 Above all, taking the shield of faith, wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked.
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I know those words better than you do. I've been proving this in every post we interact in.

Are you seriously claiming I'm the devil? Did you notice what you actually posted from your KJV?

It is small thing to be judged of you but how would you respond if I did the same? I wouldn't. I wouldn't because I don't believe you are of the devil. I believe you're simply mistaken. You're immature in the this "faith" you're following after.

I know that might offend you but it certainly isn't claiming you're of Satan.
 

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