synergy
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Who is the "you" in that verse other than Abraham? Hmmmm???
Proof of What Modern Bible Translators Have Done to Corrupt Newer Bible Translations
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koberstein
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His future descendants. If your buddy Bozo Biden turns his back on Israel you will see Genesis 12:3 up close and personal.
koberstein
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There's no probably. I am right. Try it and find out how that works out for you. I do believe Jewish people are more important. Look at the tanakh and read the history.
koberstein
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You will have to excuse me today, because I have to go and fulfill the later part of that verse. It's called mitzvahs (act of kindness)
synergy
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The "you" is a singular personal pronoun. Which single person is the "you" referring to?
Do I have to explain basic English Grammar 101 to you?
koberstein
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I'm referring to you and other Gentiles in America. You think the pandemic was bad you haven't seen nothing yet, if your buddy Geritol Joe turns his back on Israel. On the other hand King Trump did more for the Jewish people and Isra'el than any president in recent memory and America prospered for it like never before and look where this country is at now. Yes, Gen. 12:3 is still in
enforce.
koberstein
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Currently, I am doing the last have of verse 3 in Genesis 12 today. I have taken a poor elderly gentile woman named Donna a close friend of my wife to pickup her new hearing aids today. I purchased them for her a week ago. Her current hearing aids are 15 years old and with her current hearing test indicating she is stone deaf. Her late husband paid $6000 for her old hearing aids when the were new. She asked her legalistic Baptist church for help because she couldn't hear the pastors sermon on Sundays. The legalistic Baptist church said they couldn't afford it. Who does that? Isn't the New Testament churches mantra is to help widows and orphans? Donna had tears in her eyes and hugged my wife and me and said no one has ever done anything like that for me. She can now hear the birds sing and her God's word on Sundays. I don't brag on myself but Adonai that has blessed me with financial resources to help another person in
need. If Christians will do mitzvahs (acts of kindness) this world would be a much better place to live and Adonai name would be praised.
synergy
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You answered my question:
Let's put into effect what you're claiming. Let's substitute "you" for "Synergy". So Gen 12:3 goes from:
(Gen 12:3) I will bless those who bless you,
And I will curse him who curses you;
And in you all the families of the earth shall be blessed.”
To:
I will bless those who bless Synergy,
And I will curse him who curses Synergy;
And in Synergy all the families of the earth shall be blessed.”
Wow!!! You are paying me too much honor. I think it's time to send you to the old folks home.
koberstein
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I will never pay you any honor for your antisemitic views and corrupting the Hebrew Scripture with blasphemy. You need to go back flipping burgers at McDonald's. Gentile people need to eat.
synergy
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I was just following exactly what you told me. You shouldn't be so hard on yourself.
Now you're retracting the reverence you were offering me? I'm heart broken
.
koberstein
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You are not a Jew. In fact I didn't believe in evolution until I came across you.I was just following exactly what you told me. You shouldn't be so hard on yourself.
Now you're retracting the reverence you were offering me? I'm heart broken
synergy
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I never said I was. And even if I'm not, what difference does that make?
Temper. Temper. We don't want to pop a blood vessel or two.
Anyways, it's been fun conversing with you. Have a nice day until we meet again to exchange more pleasantries.
koberstein
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The Old Testament covenants are for Jews only. Gentiles need not apply.
koberstein
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Same here. Have a blessed day!
Frank Russell
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So, if someone decides to troll a forum inhabited by people who are heirs according to the promise ... does that mean God will troll them? Good luck with that.
koberstein
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You never know. Be nice to Jews
Frank Russell
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A man is not a Jew because he is one outwardly, nor is circumcision only outward and physical. No, a man is a Jew because he is one inwardly, and circumcision is a matter of the heart, by the Spirit, not by the written code. Such a man’s praise does not come from men, but from God. (Romans 2:28-29)
Therefore be nice to everyone, you might be kind to a jew unaware.
koberstein
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I'm always kind to Jewish people my ethnicity. You maybe not so much. According to halakhah (Jewish religious law), a Jew is anyone born of a Jewish mother or who has converted to Judaism. Meanwhile, it is commonly accepted that the Bible traces Jewishness genetically through the father.
According to this theory, Jewishness came to be traced through the mother at a time of historical turmoil when Jewish women were being sold as concubines to Gentiles, so that there could be doubt whether a father was Jewish. However, one can make a case that even in the Bible Jewishness depends on the mother. Some in the Reform movement have cut the Gordian knot by accepting as a Jew anyone from either parent. "Jew" (Hebrew, Y'hudi), literally means "one who praises"
You need to read the previous verses to grasp what Sha'ul (Paul) is trying to convey
to Messianic Jews.
Romans 2: 23-29
You who take such pride in Torah, do you, by disobeying the Torah, dishonor God? ---as it says in the Tanakh, "For it is because of you that God's name is blasphemed by the Gentiles." For circumcision is of value if you do what the Torah says, but if you are a transgressor of Torah, your circumcision has become uncircumcision! Therefore, if an uncircumcised man keeps the righteous requirements of the Torah, won't his uncircumcision be counted as circumcision?
Indeed, the man who is physically uncircumcised but obeys the Torah will stand as a judgment on you who have had a b'rit-milah and have Torah written out but violate it! For the real Jew is not merely Jewish outwardly: true circumcision is not external and physical. On the contrary, the real Jew is one inwardly; and true circumcision is of the heart, spiritual not literal; so that his praise come not from other people but from God.
I will rephrase my previous reply to you.
It will serve you well to be kind to ALL
Jews!
Frank Russell
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Yep, that's what God teaches.
koberstein
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How do you know that I'm not? You are assuming again and we all know what assume means.
You are not a exactly a person I would take advice from anyway.
