e v e
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since man was made already by God in His Original creation as male and female, as one.
not separated.
Pre Existence of Christ prior to the Incarnation
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I'd like to make a quick comment and begin by saying I am a poster on this board and nothing more. That said, when moderators are identified it makes it difficult for them to participate in forum discussions as there were always be accusations made against them by people who disagree with them (this will not always be the case but it is common). And people who moderate can take quite a bit of abuse themselves. My point is that you are looking at the situation merely from your point of view. If you had a problem I personally think you should have exhausted all options of resolving said problems and if at the end of it you are unhappy...then don't post anymore. But the accusation of "secret police" on a discussion board is a little over the top, don't you think?
TheLayman
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ERROR, Genesis 2:7 "And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul." Here "Man" is H120 אָדָם 'adam (aw-dawm') n-m.
ruddy i.e. a human being (an individual or the species, mankind, etc.).
[from H119]
KJV: X another, + hypocrite, + common sort, X low, man (mean, of low degree), person.
Root(s): H119
here it is the INDIVIDUAL/MAN. and this was DAY 3. and on Day 6 God Made the Man/Male and Female or the GENDER of the Adam. that came forth not out, but FROM the FIRST Adam. Adam rib was not female, supportive scripture. Genesis 2:22 "And the rib, which the LORD God had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man." so from the rib God MADE the Woman. I will give you credit on that, because many had no clue that the woman was in the Man before she was brought forth.
Good, she was made/formed G243 allos in the numerical difference. but her form/shape/star or figure was in, qualitative different, so good job on that answer also, (smile).
Bones = Evil realm? where is that in the bible?
man was formed only ONCE from dust.
what about the Marriage of the Lamb and his bride?
101G.
101G
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e v e
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our restoration to God.
civic
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Ditto
DavP
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Yeah, kind of. In Romans 8:18-25 when speaking of the future release of God's creation from today's state of bondage, that will include the redemption of our body Paul says in verse 23. What body? Our spirit body that everyone already has that dwells inside their flesh (see 2 Corinthians 5).
DavP
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I like Apostle Paul's example in Hebrew 7 (penned by Luke's hand dictated by Paul, I believe).
Eventually in that chapter, Paul gets to the point that he was speaking of Lord Jesus Christ of the tribe of Juda as the Melchizedec of the Old Testament that met Abraham, and blessed him, and offered him "bread and wine".
At the end of John 8, Lord Jesus confirms to the blind Pharisees there that He is The "I AM", one of God's sacred names. Jesus admitted there that He saw Abraham also, and that Abraham rejoiced to see His day, and was glad.
Eventually in that chapter, Paul gets to the point that he was speaking of Lord Jesus Christ of the tribe of Juda as the Melchizedec of the Old Testament that met Abraham, and blessed him, and offered him "bread and wine".
At the end of John 8, Lord Jesus confirms to the blind Pharisees there that He is The "I AM", one of God's sacred names. Jesus admitted there that He saw Abraham also, and that Abraham rejoiced to see His day, and was glad.
Matthias
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That’s transparency.
They’re also, apparently, empowered by the owner to act as moderators.
I spoke with a trinitarian friend who isn’t a member of this forum and told him about the “mystery” moderators here. I think the owner should hear his response.
”Christian’s should be children of light, not children of darkness.”
@civic
Matthias
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It shouldn’t be difficult for them at all.
They have the ability and the authority to stop abuse in its tracks.
I probably went further to resolve the problem than anyone you’ve ever witnessed.
This isn’t my forum. I gave the owner feedback on what it looks like and he can do whatever he wants to with it.
No. It got his attention, and yours.
Secret police -> children of the darkness
Matthias
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Do you think I’m unhappy?
I provided you with feedback which had your best interest at heart.
A trinitarian owned forum that isn’t transparent? That’s a self-inflicted wound.
It‘s in my best interest to have your cloaked enforcers remain in the shadows.
Matthias
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I haven’t called for the moderators real names to be revealed. You shouldn’t either. What I’ve suggested for your consideration is to have avatars identified as moderators.
I had an experience a little over 15 years ago where a trinitarian I was speaking with online investigated me, discovered my real name, then threatened to physically harm me and my family.
He agreed to meet with me at a public location in the city where I lived at the time so we could “settle it like men”. When he arrived at the specified location on the agreed upon time and date, he met the police.
civic
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this will be my last comment on the topic - the @Administrator and @Predestined are the only 2 on the forum.
Matthias
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Then this will be my last comment on the topic.
Even a trinitarian who isn’t a member of this forum has told you (through me) that what you‘re doing is bad optics.
You’ve got it like you want it. So be it.
civic
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I have identified the 2 moderators on this forum and they both post so give it a rest. You are not the forum police. Its my forum and this is how we chose to run this forum.
I know several forums that run it the same way and the members never once questioned it or had a problem with how it was ran.
Most of us here came from that forum. Unlike the founder of that other forum I interact here with the members on a daily basis. I'm accessible to everyone here.
As we grow we might add a couple more moderators and they will be members here. So for instance if you became one you would still be Matthias with moderator under your name. If I became one civic would have moderator/administrator under my name. I my do that one day that is still up in the air because its not what I want to do of be on this forum. I just want to be like the other members and debate doctrine and talk about scripture. That is what I enjoy, moderating is not enjoyable for me.
This will be the last post here on the topic from anyone. I will have the @Administrator delete the posts since this is off topic from the OP.
So are we all good now? Everybody got everything off their chest? Let's get back to lifting up our Lord and Savior Jesus.
Remember he told us to love one another.
We want everyone to talk about whatever they feel like talking about as long as you do it in a cordial and civilized manner.
Remember he told us to love one another.
We want everyone to talk about whatever they feel like talking about as long as you do it in a cordial and civilized manner.
Matthias
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It isn’t all good when posts are being deleted.
I asked who the moderators were in addition to you and one other. That’s what I wanted to talk about.
It would have been a short conversation if the answer had clearly communicated that there are no moderators besides you and @Predestined.
Matthias
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I spent thirty plus years working for a regulatory agency. I have no interest in being a moderator on this or any other Internet discussion forum. The only person I’m going to moderate is myself.
You clarified here that any member of the forum who is appointed a moderator in the future will be identified as such under their name. That is the only thing I was suggesting. That’s transparency.
I recommend that those posts be moved and preserved in another location on the forum rather than deleted. Once you start deleting posts you’ve sent a message that is counter to your stated concept / vision for the forum.
Complete
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Subject Heading:- 'The Pre Existence of Christ prior to the Incarnation'
the firstborn of every creature:
For by Him were all things created,
.. that are in heaven,
.... and that are in earth,
...... visible and invisible,
........ whether they be thrones,
.......... or dominions,
............ or principalities,
.............. or powers:
................ all things were created by Him,
.................. and for Him:
And He is before all things,
.. and by Him all things consist.
.... And He is the head of the body, the church:
...... Who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead;
........ that in all things He might have the preeminence.'
(Col 1:15-18)
Hello @civic,
* The Lord Jesus Christ is said to be the, 'The Firstborn,' ( in terms of time ), in verses 15 & 18 (above). As in Romans 8:29 and Hebrews 1:6
'For whom He did foreknow,
He also did predestinate
to be conformed to the image of His Son,
that He might be the firstborn among many brethren.'
(Romans 8:29)
'And again, when He bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world,
He saith, "And let all the angels of God worship Him."'
(Heb 1:6)
* I love the stress on the word, 'firstbegotten' here in this context: where the comparison is being made between the Lord Jesus Christ and Angelic beings, for He is God's 'only begotten Son', He was not, 'created,' as they were (1 John 4:9).
Praise God!
Thank you.
In Christ Jesus
Chris
'Who is the image of the invisible God,
the firstborn of every creature:
For by Him were all things created,
.. that are in heaven,
.... and that are in earth,
...... visible and invisible,
........ whether they be thrones,
.......... or dominions,
............ or principalities,
.............. or powers:
................ all things were created by Him,
.................. and for Him:
And He is before all things,
.. and by Him all things consist.
.... And He is the head of the body, the church:
...... Who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead;
........ that in all things He might have the preeminence.'
(Col 1:15-18)
Hello @civic,
* The Lord Jesus Christ is said to be the, 'The Firstborn,' ( in terms of time ), in verses 15 & 18 (above). As in Romans 8:29 and Hebrews 1:6
'For whom He did foreknow,
He also did predestinate
to be conformed to the image of His Son,
that He might be the firstborn among many brethren.'
(Romans 8:29)
'And again, when He bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world,
He saith, "And let all the angels of God worship Him."'
(Heb 1:6)
* I love the stress on the word, 'firstbegotten' here in this context: where the comparison is being made between the Lord Jesus Christ and Angelic beings, for He is God's 'only begotten Son', He was not, 'created,' as they were (1 John 4:9).
Praise God!
Thank you.
In Christ Jesus
Chris
