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Jud_1:6 And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.
Notice the "keep not". This contradicts your view.
@praise_yeshua aren't you the guy who boasted of having......
I do believe that I have a mature understanding.
Well, your
mature understanding is not helping you on this subject, not even close, as a matter of fact, you are not following along very well.
Never said that he did not, of course they all had a free will choice and the very second God left them to themselves they took off and left, which happen on the day they were created, (since they
were not elected to stay!) when God left them, I'm assuming, but cannot prove it that it happen when God begin to create in Genesis 1:1~the elect angels were at least there~no record Satan ever rejoiced over creation. So assuming God created them just before He did the worlds, etc.
Job 38:7
“When the morning stars sang together, and all the
sons of God shouted for joy?”
There are no absolutes when dealing with ἄγγελος. Sometimes ἄγγελος references heavenly beings and sometimes ἄγγελος references earthly men. The best translation of ἄγγελος into English is actually "messenger". The substance of those "messengers can vary. Even ἄγγελος is used to reference theophanies in the OT.
You are wasting your time, even trying to go there~folks do so, when they are out to deceive
or are out to impress others concerning language that means absolutely nothing to a child of God, who speaks his native language, and has the scriptures in them which almost every tribe on earth has. We trust the KJV as the word of God for the English speaking people of the world, the word that our forefathers trusted in and so do we.
You see this as "election" in the context of God's choice when it actuality it a choice made by them. Whether angels or not.
If 1st Timothy 5:21 say that there were elect angels, then there were others that were not elected, it is just that simple, either you believe what you read, or you reject it in favorite of your bias doctrine over the word of God,
the choice is your. You have made your choice known, and so have I. The elect angels choice was made
by God himself in their election,
period. Why are you contesting this truth? Not a very good sign of a mature believer in Jesus Christ.
It is rather obvious to me that Christ didn't die for angels of any sort. He didn't take upon Himself the nature of angels. As such, Christ could never have a proper priesthood in relationship to them like He has with mankind.
Heb 2:17 Wherefore in all things it behoved him to be made like unto his brethren, that he might be a merciful and faithful high priest in things pertaining to God, to make reconciliation for the sins of the people.
Obviously that is very true. His election did first
preserved many of them from leaving, and the ones that left, he bid them farewell, but before he did, he sent a very strong judgement upon them.
2nd Peter 2:4
"For if God spared not the angles that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be
reserved unto the judgement."
"For if God spared not the angels that sinned"~By whom are meant the devil and his angels; who are spirits created by God and as such were good; their first estate which they left was pure and holy, as well as high and honourable; they, were at first in the truth, though they abode not in it; they were once among the morning stars and sons of God, and were angels of light; their numbers are many, and therefore are here expressed in the plural number, "angels", though it cannot be said how large, a number that cannot be counted.
"God spared not"~ Notwithstanding the dignity and excellency of their nature, in strict justice, and awful severity,
without any mercy, inflicted due punishment on them; wherefore it cannot be thought that false teachers, who, as they, abide not in the truth, but deny and oppose it, should escape the vengeance of God, for they will not.
"but cast them down to hell"~In what sense are we to understand the word hell as used by Peter? It cannot be understood as the lake of fire, for that is
after the judgment~for which they are reserved for...which is to come, as is evident by even the angles themselves:
Matthew 8:29
"And behold they cried out saying, What have we to do with thee Jesus, thou Son of God? art thou come hither to torment us before the time?"
They know that there is a
day appointed for them to be judge and then cast into the lake of fire, or into the
deep, as used by Mark and Luke.
Also, the world is full of evil spirits as is evident by many scriptures in the NT, and in the book of the Revelation of Jesus Christ. Hell
in this scripture is explain to us by Peter as he said these words:
"and delivered them into chains of darkness"~When they left their first estate, by sinning, God Almighty delivered them
into chains of darkness~which means their sins left them under the guilt of sin, which is the power of darkness, and in black despair; shutting them up in unbelief, impenitence, and hardness of mind; being holden with the cords of their sins, and in the most dreadful state of bondage and captivity to their lusts, in just judgment on them; and in the most miserable and uncomfortable condition, being driven from the realms of light, deprived of the face and presence of God, in the utmost horror and trembling, and fearful looking for of judgment, and fiery indignation to consume them; and in utter darkness, without the least glimmering of light, joy, peace, and comfort; and where there is nothing but weeping, wailing, and gnashing of teeth; and being also under the restraints of the power and providence of God, and not able to stir or move, or do anything without divine permission; and being likewise, by the everlasting, unalterable, and inscrutable purposes and decrees of God, appointed to everlasting wrath and destruction; by which they are consigned and bound over to it, and held fast, that they cannot escape it! They are there~
"to be reserved unto judgment"~And judge they shall be! By Jesus Christ and his saints. This is the
prison of hell in which they are now suffering under, there waiting for that great day of the wrath of Almighty God. This hell, they will never escape from, they are forever under this chains of darkness and deception in which they are now living under. Their final abode will be destruction in the lake of fire and brimstone.
