Mormon inconsistency when it comes to praying to Jesus

[Fred]

Part 1 of 2
Mormon teaching affirms that prayer is due only to the Father, and not to Jesus.

1. 2017 Book of Mormon Seminary Teacher Manual: From the scriptures and the teachings of latter-day prophets, we know that we are to worship God the Father and pray to Him only. We should not pray to Jesus Christ. (Lesson 128, 3 Nephi 19)
https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/manual/book-of-mormon-seminary-teacher-manual-2017/introduction-to-third-nephi-the-book-of-nephi/lesson-128-3-nephi-19?lang=eng

2. Book of Mormon Student Manual: There is no place in scripture where we are taught to pray to Jesus. (Chapter 43: 3 Nephi 19:18)
https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/manual/book-of-mormon-student-manual/chapter-43-3-nephi-18-19?lang=eng

3. Missionary Preparation Student Manual: We always pray to our Father in Heaven, and to him alone. Our prayers are rendered in the name of the Son and communicated by the power of the Holy Ghost. We do not pray to the Savior or to anyone else. To do so would be disrespectful of Heavenly Father and an indication that we do not properly understand the relationship of the members of the Godhead. (Chapter 5, We Learn to Teach “by Study and Also by Faith,” Part 1, page 40)
https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/manual/missionary-preparation-student-manual/chapter-5-we-learn-to-teach-by-study-and-also-by-faith-part-1?lang=eng



A. The Mormons affirm praying to the Lord Jesus in Joel 2:32
Joel 2:32
And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the LORD shall be delivered: for in mount Zion and in Jerusalem shall be deliverance, as the LORD hath said, and in the remnant whom the LORD shall call. (KJV)

Prayer
Topical Guide: whosoever shall call on … the Lord shall be delivered, Joel 2:32. (Prayer; Pray)
https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/tg/prayer?lang=eng

Jesus
Old Testament Student Manual Kings-Malachi: Verse 32 is a reference to Jesus Christ (see Romans 10:13). (Joel: God Will Not Be Mocked, Joel, page 85)
https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/manual/old-testament-student-manual-kings-malachi/chapter-7?lang=eng


B. The Mormons affirm praying to the Lord Jesus in Romans 10:13
Romans 10:13
For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved. (KJV)

Prayer
Topical Guide: then began men to call upon the name of the Lord, Gen. 4:26 (21:33; Rom. 10:13; Mosiah 4:11; Ether 2:14; Moses 6:4). (Prayer; Pray)
https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/tg/prayer?lang=eng

Jesus
Old Testament Student Manual Kings-Malachi: Verse 32 is a reference to Jesus Christ (see Romans 10:13). (Joel: God Will Not Be Mocked, Joel, page 85)
https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/manual/old-testament-student-manual-kings-malachi/chapter-7?lang=eng


C. The Mormons affirm praying to the Lord Jesus in Revelation 22:20
Revelation 22:20
He which testifieth these things saith, Surely I come quickly. Amen. Even so, come, Lord Jesus. (KJV)

New Testament Seminary Student Study Guide: "Come, Lord Jesus" Read Revelation 22:20. Think of what you have learned during your study of the New Testament and write your testimony of Jesus. Include why you would join in John's prayer for Jesus to come. (Revelation 21–22, The Earth Becomes a Celestial World, page 178)
https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/manual/new-testament-student-study-guide/the-revelation-of-saint-john-the-divine/revelation-21-22?lang=eng

 

[Fred]

Part 2 of 2

The Mormons teach the Lord Jesus can be prayed to only if He is in your immediate presence.

3 Nephi 19:16-22
(16) And it came to pass that he spake unto the multitude, and commanded them that they should kneel down again upon the earth, and also that his disciples should kneel down upon the earth.
(17) And it came to pass that when they had all knelt down upon the earth, he commanded his disciples that they should pray.
(18) And behold, they began to pray; and they did pray unto Jesus, calling him their Lord and their God.
(19) And it came to pass that Jesus departed out of the midst of them, and went a little way off from them and bowed himself to the earth, and he said:
(20) Father, I thank thee that thou hast given the Holy Ghost unto these whom I have chosen; and it is because of their belief in me that I have chosen them out of the world.
(21) Father, I pray thee that thou wilt give the Holy Ghost unto all them that shall believe in their words.
(22) Father, thou hast given them the Holy Ghost because they believe in me; and thou seest that they believe in me because thou hearest them, and they pray unto me; and they pray unto me because I am with them.

Ensign: In 3 Nephi 19:16–30, however, we read that, when Jesus was in their immediate presence, his disciples prayed directly to him. Perhaps the key to this unusual behavior is found in verse 22, where Jesus explains that “they pray unto me because I am with them.” (Italics added.) Jesus made this comment while praying to the Father for the welfare of his disciples. Apparently, on that occasion, while he was in their presence, praying to him was acceptable. After he left them, however, the Nephites continued the pattern of praying to the Father in Jesus’ name, as we are directed to do also. (See 3 Ne. 20:30–31; 3 Ne. 27:2, 28–29.) (Is it proper to pray to Jesus Christ?, June 1988)
https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/ensign/1988/06/i-have-a-question/is-it-proper-to-pray-to-jesus-christ?lang=eng


There are places in the Book of Mormon where the Lord Jesus is prayed to, but no mention is made that He was in their immediate presence.
Alma 19:29
And it came to pass that she went and took the queen by the hand, that perhaps she might raise her from the ground; and as soon as she touched her hand she arose and stood upon her feet, and cried with a loud voice, saying: O blessed Jesus, who has saved me from an awful hell! O blessed God, have mercy on this people!

Alma 36:18-19
(18) Now, as my mind caught hold upon this thought, I cried within my heart: O Jesus, thou Son of God, have mercy on me, who am in the gall of bitterness, and am encircled about by the everlasting chains of death.
(19) And now, behold, when I thought this, I could remember my pains no more; yea, I was harrowed up by the memory of my sins no more.

2017 Book of Mormon Seminary Teacher Manual:
Ask a student to read Alma 36:18 aloud.
Invite the class to look for what Alma did to act on his father’s teachings.
What did Alma do to act on his father’s teachings? Point out that Alma’s prayer demonstrated his willingness to exercise faith in Jesus Christ and His Atonement. (Lesson 93: Alma 36)
https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/manual/book-of-mormon-seminary-teacher-manual-2017/introduction-to-the-book-of-alma/lesson-93-alma-36?lang=eng

Alma 38:8
And it came to pass that I was three days and three nights in the most bitter pain and anguish of soul; and never, until I did cry out unto the Lord Jesus Christ for mercy, did I receive a remission of my sins. But behold, I did cry unto him and I did find peace to my soul.

 

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[Azriel]

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adam is the god of lds.

You are right.

APOSTLE McCONKIE ADMITS
BRIGHAM YOUNG TAUGHT ADAM-GOD DOCTRINE

Issue 49 - Salt Lake City Messenger

 

[David Koberstein]

Part 2 of 2

The Mormons teach the Lord Jesus can be prayed to only if He is in your immediate presence.

3 Nephi 19:16-22
(16) And it came to pass that he spake unto the multitude, and commanded them that they should kneel down again upon the earth, and also that his disciples should kneel down upon the earth.
(17) And it came to pass that when they had all knelt down upon the earth, he commanded his disciples that they should pray.
(18) And behold, they began to pray; and they did pray unto Jesus, calling him their Lord and their God.
(19) And it came to pass that Jesus departed out of the midst of them, and went a little way off from them and bowed himself to the earth, and he said:
(20) Father, I thank thee that thou hast given the Holy Ghost unto these whom I have chosen; and it is because of their belief in me that I have chosen them out of the world.
(21) Father, I pray thee that thou wilt give the Holy Ghost unto all them that shall believe in their words.
(22) Father, thou hast given them the Holy Ghost because they believe in me; and thou seest that they believe in me because thou hearest them, and they pray unto me; and they pray unto me because I am with them.

Ensign: In 3 Nephi 19:16–30, however, we read that, when Jesus was in their immediate presence, his disciples prayed directly to him. Perhaps the key to this unusual behavior is found in verse 22, where Jesus explains that “they pray unto me because I am with them.” (Italics added.) Jesus made this comment while praying to the Father for the welfare of his disciples. Apparently, on that occasion, while he was in their presence, praying to him was acceptable. After he left them, however, the Nephites continued the pattern of praying to the Father in Jesus’ name, as we are directed to do also. (See 3 Ne. 20:30–31; 3 Ne. 27:2, 28–29.) (Is it proper to pray to Jesus Christ?, June 1988)
https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/ensign/1988/06/i-have-a-question/is-it-proper-to-pray-to-jesus-christ?lang=eng


There are places in the Book of Mormon where the Lord Jesus is prayed to, but no mention is made that He was in their immediate presence.
Alma 19:29
And it came to pass that she went and took the queen by the hand, that perhaps she might raise her from the ground; and as soon as she touched her hand she arose and stood upon her feet, and cried with a loud voice, saying: O blessed Jesus, who has saved me from an awful hell! O blessed God, have mercy on this people!

Alma 36:18-19
(18) Now, as my mind caught hold upon this thought, I cried within my heart: O Jesus, thou Son of God, have mercy on me, who am in the gall of bitterness, and am encircled about by the everlasting chains of death.
(19) And now, behold, when I thought this, I could remember my pains no more; yea, I was harrowed up by the memory of my sins no more.

2017 Book of Mormon Seminary Teacher Manual:
Ask a student to read Alma 36:18 aloud.
Invite the class to look for what Alma did to act on his father’s teachings.
What did Alma do to act on his father’s teachings? Point out that Alma’s prayer demonstrated his willingness to exercise faith in Jesus Christ and His Atonement. (Lesson 93: Alma 36)
https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/manual/book-of-mormon-seminary-teacher-manual-2017/introduction-to-the-book-of-alma/lesson-93-alma-36?lang=eng

Alma 38:8
And it came to pass that I was three days and three nights in the most bitter pain and anguish of soul; and never, until I did cry out unto the Lord Jesus Christ for mercy, did I receive a remission of my sins. But behold, I did cry unto him and I did find peace to my soul.

This is a disgusting cult. Avoid it.
Shalom