brightfame52
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Lol So duh
Responsibilities to God and His Christ
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brightfame52
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Well if he did, he did not mention it, but Paul did, and God revealed it to Paul
4 Whereby, when ye read, ye may understand my knowledge in the mystery of Christ)
5 Which in other ages was not made known unto the sons of men, as it is now revealed unto his holy apostles and prophets by the Spirit;
6 That the Gentiles should be fellowheirs, and of the same body, and
partakers of his promise in Christ by the gospel
The Gospel is the preaching of the New Covenant
jeremiah1five
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No, that's YOU trying to make these complementary to each other. The "mystery" was never the New Covenant. It's not a mystery for Jeremiah does not hide anything in his prophecy. It is clear who is included in this covenant. It is clear this covenant is between God and the twelve tribes of Israel. It is clear that Jeremiah describes the 'gist' of this covenant, which is God forgiving the sins of His covenant people Israel. It also makes reference to the Mosaic Covenant and that covenant between God and the Hebrew people He delivered out of bondage in Egypt.
If the New Covenant does not include non-Hebrew Gentiles and there are those who re-interpret Jeremiah's prophecy to include non-Hebrew Gentiles, then this inclusion after the fact that the covenant does not include non-Hebrew Gentiles, then any teaching that seeks to insert a people that the prophecy does not mention has caused Jesus to "destroy the Law" (Matt. 5:17), and this in and of itself violates the Old Testament prophecy by Jeremiah thus making Jesus Christ a liar.
It is clear who the New Covenant describes as the participants of this covenant and the parties include the God of Abraham and the House of Israel and the House of Judah, and neither House includes non-Hebrew Gentiles. Both Houses when taken together are the twelve tribes of Israel. Here is the preamble:
31 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD,
That I will make a new covenant
With the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:
Jeremiah 31:31.
The New Covenant includes the LORD, and the House of Israel and the House of Judah, and neither are non-Hebrew Gentiles. You and others who add to God's Word violate the Word of God as written, and to claim the inclusion of non-Hebrew Gentiles when this covenant clearly states Israel and Judah as the parties involved in the New Covenant God has promised through His prophet, Jeremiah, and such teaching that violates the clearly written text of Scripture is to be rejected as false.
jeremiah1five
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Your attempt to try to tie non-Hebrew Gentiles to the New Covenant prophesied by Jeremiah falls short.
The New Covenant prophesied by Jeremiah does not include non-Hebrew Gentiles.
jeremiah1five
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The New Covenant prophesied by Jeremiah was made in the 700s BC and there is no mention of non-Hebrew Gentiles being included in this covenant between God and His people Israel.
Your interpretation of "Gentiles" cannot mean non-Hebrew Gentiles for there are no non-Hebrew Gentiles named or mentioned by Jeremiah. The prophecy had been closed for nearly 700 years before Christ was born.
IF the New Covenant clearly states "non-Hebrew Gentiles" alongside the House of Israel and the House of Judah, then you would have an argument for the inclusion of Gentiles, but Jeremiah says nothing about Gentiles being included in the New Covenant, and your attempt to add Gentiles after the fact makes a liar out of Christ for out of His very mouth He said He did not come to change what was already written centuries earlier by Jeremiah.
There are NO NON-HEBREW GENTILES named or mentioned as included in the New Covenant.
brightfame52
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Not the New Covenant per se, but that the Gentiles were jointly included in the New Covenant Promises to Israel Jer 31:31
31 Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:
brightfame52
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That was the Mystery, Gentiles are included in the New Covenant Promises to Israel Jer 31:31ff It obviously hasnt been revealed to you. Lets hope God does because its Gospel Truth Eph 6:19
And for me, that utterance may be given unto me, that I may open my mouth boldly, to make known the mystery of the gospel,
Ro 16 25
Now to him that is of power to stablish you according to my gospel, and the preaching of Jesus Christ, according to the revelation of the mystery, which was kept secret since the world began,
brightfame52
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Doesn't matter, The Mystery was that the New Covenant Jeremiah foretold of in Jer 31:31 to the Israel and Judah, it included Gentiles to be recipients of the promised New Covenant blessings. Eph 3
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