Mark 16:16~"He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.

[Red Baker]

If you pray to Jesus you are praying to the Father by default.

They don't take turns answering.

I pray to God the Father through Jesus who is our mediator between us and God. All in the name of Jesus our Lord.

1st Timothy 2:5~"For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;"

How important that Paul mentioned first Christ, then Jesus! More on this later.

Your jesus is another jesus!

 

[Richard]

Whether or not baptism is considered a sacrament depends on the specific Christian denomination or tradition. However, in general, baptism is seen as a significant ritual or ceremony that is believed to have spiritual benefits and is often considered a necessary part of the Christian faith.

In Protestant denominations, the understanding of baptism varies widely. Some Protestant denominations, such as Baptists and some Evangelical churches, do not consider baptism to be a sacrament, but rather an ordinance or a symbolic act of obedience. Other Protestant denominations, such as Lutherans and Anglicans, do consider baptism to be a sacrament, but they may have different understandings of its significance and effects.

So it's not really that cut and dry.

 

[Lily]

This phenomenon is called the Col 2:9 effect.

Well hopefully you'll be able to get some treatment for it.

 

[Lily]

Jesus had no Hebrew name.

The Jews spoke Greek as their first language.

The gospels were also written in the Greek language in that era.

What do you think Mary and Joseph named Jesus?

Mary and Joseph named their baby Jesus,“Yeshua” (Hebrew)

In Aramaic 1:31 For, behold, thou shalt conceive, and shalt bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name Jeshu.

 

[Red Baker]

So it's not really that cut and dry.

RIchard, thanks for responding in the the spirit in which you did~but, it is cut and dry, knowing the difference bewtween a sacrament and a ordinance, maybe more on this later.

The Baptist have never been part of RCC and we are not protestants, since we do not protest any truths held by the apostate church, they reject the truths headed up by Catholicism and her daughters~some of which may indeed be children of God, but in error~the Lord knoweth those that are his, we may not.

As much as I respect John Calvin on many truths he preached, mostly concerning practical doctrines, he did not like the Baptist, and their teachings against infant baptism, and some of the sacraments. He and Martin Luther the great reformer, whom we highly respect, brought some doctrines with them out of the RCC, and could not see their error concerning them. I do not consider myself worthy of either of them since they did the church of Christ/God a great service.

 

[Truther]

Are you serious? "All of what God consists of dwell in Jesus' body"? Please tell me you don't believe that. Jesus emptied Himself of all of His power, glory, knowledge, authority when He became a man. The Father gave it all back to Him at His resurrection, but neither the Father nor the Holy Spirit emptied themselves, nor were they incarnate with Jesus. Not even all of the third of God that is Jesus was present in Jesus' body.

Colossians 2:9 says all of the fullness of the Godhead dwells in him bodily. Not some of the Godhead , not some of the qualities of God, but every bit of what God consists dwells in him bodily. Did you know that Jesus is now bodily omnipresent?

 

[Truther]

Wrong again,

The English Joshua and Jesus come from one Hebrew name: Yeshua. So Joshua is the name Mary would have heard when the angel first spoke it. “You shall call his name Yeshua” (Luke 1:31) — one of the great names in the history of God’s people.

Although the Jewish inhabitants of the land of Israel in the time of Jesus knew Aramaic and used it in their contacts with the ordinary, non-Jewish residents, Hebrew was their first or native language. It is especially clear that in enlightened circles such as those of Jesus and his disciples, Hebrew was the dominant spoken language.

The New Testament was originally written in Greek. This claim is not particularly controversial among biblical scholars, though some have argued that parts of the New Testament were originally written in Hebrew or Aramaic.

Hebrew and Aramaic are closely related languages of the so-called “Semitic” branch (of the Afroasiatic family), and they mixed and influenced each other to a large extent during this period.

Aramaic is not Greek.

Aramaic is a Northwest Semitic language that originated in the ancient region of Syria and quickly spread to Mesopotamia, the southern Levant, southeastern Anatolia, Eastern Arabia and the Sinai Peninsula, where it has been continually written and spoken in different varieties for over three thousand years.

So you think that the new testament was written in Hebrew?

 

[Truther]

I have to agree with @Horatius ... Wrong again!

Roman Catholics do not need to do it the way you like it. They're going by what the bible says.

Matthew 28:19-20 King James Version (KJV)Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen.
It is administered by immersing the recipient in water or by pouring water on the person's head “in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit”.

The two most important and common rituals among the Protestant denominations are baptism and communion (also known as the Lord's Supper or the Eucharist). In some Protestant denominations, these two practices are referred to collectively as 'sacraments' or 'ordinances'.

The Roman Catholic Church changed the mode of baptism to the titles, father son and Holy Ghost. They were the one entity that made it official in the fourth century A.D. The Protestants made it even worse when they refused to baptize people altogether. Peter has got to be turning over in his grave right now.
Is command has been refuted by most of Christendom today. The Catholics own the Protestant churches.

 

[Truther]

I pray to God the Father through Jesus who is our mediator between us and God. All in the name of Jesus our Lord.

1st Timothy 2:5~"For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;"

How important that Paul mentioned first Christ, then Jesus! More on this later.

Your jesus is another jesus!

I pray to Jesus and through Jesus to God, the father. Very similar to your prayer. Nowadays, no man comes to the Father by him.

 

[Truther]

Well hopefully you'll be able to get some treatment for it.

Problem you have is you think Jesus is only 6 foot tall and 2 foot wide. You never did realize that Jesus is omnipresent bodily. Even Paul and Acts chapter 9, could’ve told you that when he was surrounded by Jesus as a bright white light from heaven that claimed that it was Jesus.

 

[Truther]

What do you think Mary and Joseph named Jesus?

Mary and Joseph named their baby Jesus,“Yeshua” (Hebrew)

In Aramaic 1:31 For, behold, thou shalt conceive, and shalt bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name Jeshu.

They named Jesus, Jesus. Read Matthew chapter 1. Come on Lily.

 

[Truther]

Everybody amd their big ideas… Trying to change the name of the Lord Jesus to something else. Some of them have even gone as far as to say it’s like Yokohama or something. The world is going crazy.

 

[Truther]

I’m going to have to rename all of you folks see how you feel.

 

[Lily]

They named Jesus, Jesus. Read Matthew chapter 1. Come on Lily.

You come on, Jesus is English.

 

[Lily]

I’m going to have to rename all of you folks see how you feel.

Well you can try but since it's against the rules you'll probably would get a vacation, See how that feels.

 

[Lily]

Everybody amd their big ideas… Trying to change the name of the Lord Jesus to something else. Some of them have even gone as far as to say it’s like Yokohama or something. The world is going crazy.

What language do you think God speaks? And what did deaf and dumb people called Jesus. What about if you only speak Spanish or Chinese?

 

[Lily]

Problem you have is you think Jesus is only 6 foot tall and 2 foot wide. You never did realize that Jesus is omnipresent bodily. Even Paul and Acts chapter 9, could’ve told you that when he was surrounded by Jesus as a bright white light from heaven that claimed that it was Jesus.

Paul didn't call him Jesus because he didn't speak English.

 

[Lily]

Problem you have is you think Jesus is only 6 foot tall and 2 foot wide. You never did realize that Jesus is omnipresent bodily. Even Paul and Acts chapter 9, could’ve told you that when he was surrounded by Jesus as a bright white light from heaven that claimed that it was Jesus.

You don't know what I think nor do you know what I realize about Jesus being the bright and morning star. That's one of his names. Come on truther. Study a little language will you. Here you go this may help you out.

The Bible in its entirety was not translated into English until the Middle English period, with John Wycliffe's translation in 1382. In the centuries before this, however, many had translated large portions of the Bible into English. Parts of the Bible were first translated from the Latin Vulgate into Old English by a few monks and scholars. Such translations were generally in the form of prose or as interlinear glosses (literal translations above the Latin words).

In the Bible and other Christian texts, Jesus Christ is known by a variety of names and titles, from the Lamb of God to the Almighty to the Light of the World. Some titles, such as the Savior, express Christ's role within the theological framework of Christianity, while others are primarily metaphorical.

Common Names and Titles for Jesus Christ​

In the Bible alone, there are more than 150 different titles used in reference to Jesus Christ. However, some titles are much more common than others:

1. Christ: The title "Christ" is derived from the Greek Christós and means "the anointed one." It is used in Matthew 16:20: "Then he strictly charged the disciples to tell no one that he was the Christ." The title also appears at the very beginning of the Book of Mark: "The beginning of the gospel of Jesus Christ, the Son of God."
2. Son of God: Jesus is referred to as the "Son of God" throughout the New Testament—for example, in Matthew 14:33, after Jesus walks on water: "And those in the boat worshiped him, saying, 'Truly you are the Son of God.'" The title emphasizes Jesus's divinity.
3. Lamb of God: This title appears only once in the Bible, though in a crucial passage, John 1:29: "The next day he saw Jesus coming toward him, and said, 'Behold, the Lamb of God, who takes away the sin of the world!'" The identification of Jesus with the lamb emphasizes Christ's innocence and obedience before God, an essential aspect of the crucifixion.
4. New Adam: In the Old Testament, it is Adam and Eve, the first man and woman, who precipitate the fall of man by eating the fruit from the Tree of Knowledge. A passage in First Corinthians 15:22 positions Jesus as a new, or second, Adam who by his sacrifice will redeem the fallen man: "For as in Adam all die, so also in Christ shall all be made alive."
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6. Light of the World: This is a title Jesus bestows on himself in John 8:12: "Again Jesus spoke to them, saying, 'I am the light of the world. Whoever follows me will not walk in darkness, but will have the light of life.'" Light is used in its traditional metaphorical sense, as the energy that allows the blind to see.
7. Lord: In First Corinthians 12:3, Paul writes that "no one speaking in the Spirit of God ever says 'Jesus is accursed!' and no one can say 'Jesus is Lord' except in the Holy Spirit." The simple "Jesus is Lord" became an expression of devotion and faith among early Christians.
8. Logos (The Word): The Greek logos can be understood to mean "reason" or "word." As a title for Jesus, it first appears in John 1:1: "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God." Later in the same book, the "Word," synonymous with God, is also identified with Jesus: "The Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we have seen his glory, glory as of the only Son from the Father, full of grace and truth."
9. Bread of Life: This is another self-bestowed title, which appears in John 6:35: "Jesus said to them, 'I am the bread of life; whoever comes to me shall not hunger, and whoever believes in me shall never thirst.'" The title identifies Jesus as a source of spiritual sustenance.
10. Alpha and Omega: These symbols, the first and last letters of the Greek alphabet, are used in reference to Jesus in the Book of Revelation: "It is finished! I am the Alpha and the Omega—the Beginning and the End. To all who are thirsty I will give freely from the springs of the water of life." Many Biblical scholars believe the symbols represent the eternal rule of God.
11. Good Shepherd: This title is another reference to Jesus's sacrifice, this time in the form of a metaphor that appears in John 10:11: "I am the good shepherd. The good shepherd lays down his life for the sheep."

Other Titles​

The titles above are just a few of those that appear throughout the Bible. Other significant titles include:

1. Advocate: "My little children, I am writing these things to you so that you may not sin. But if anyone does sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous." (1 John 2:1)
2. Amen, The: "And to the angel of the church in Laodicea write: ‘The words of the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of God’s creation.'" (Revelation 3:14)
3. Beloved Son: "Behold, my servant whom I have chosen, my beloved with whom my soul is well pleased. I will put my Spirit upon him, and he will proclaim justice to the Gentiles." (Matthew 12:18)
4. Captain of Salvation: "For it was fitting that he, for whom and by whom all things exist, in bringing many sons to glory, should make the captain of their salvation perfect through suffering." (Hebrews 2:10)
5. Consolation of Israel: "Now there was a man in Jerusalem, whose name was Simeon, and this man was righteous and devout, waiting for the consolation of Israel, and the Holy Spirit was upon him." (Luke 2:25)
6. Counsellor: "For to us a child is born, to us a son is given; and the government shall be upon his shoulder, and his name shall be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace." (Isaiah 9:6)
7. Deliverer: "And in this way all Israel will be saved, as it is written, 'The Deliverer will come from Zion, he will banish ungodliness from Jacob.'" (Romans 11:26)
8. God Blessed: "To them belong the patriarchs, and from their race, according to the flesh, is the Christ, who is over all, God blessed forever. Amen." (Romans 9:5)
9. Head of the Church: "And he put all things under his feet and gave him as head over all things to the church." (Ephesians 1:22)
10. Holy One: "But you denied the Holy and Righteous One, and asked for a murderer to be granted to you." (Acts 3:14)
11. I Am: "Jesus said to them, 'Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I am.'" (John 8:58)
12. Image of God: "In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them." (2 Corinthians 4:4)
13. Jesus of Nazareth: "And the multitude said, This is Jesus the prophet of Nazareth of Galilee." (Matthew 21:11)
14. King of the Jews: "Where is he that is born King of the Jews? for we have seen his star in the east, and are come to worship him." (Matthew 2:2)
15. Lord of Glory: "Which none of the princes of this world knew: for had they known it, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory." (1 Corinthians 2:8)
16. Messiah: "He first findeth his own brother Simon, and saith unto him, We have found the Messiah, which is, being interpreted, the Christ." (John 1:41)
17. Mighty One: "Thou shalt also suck the milk of the Gentiles, and shalt suck the breast of kings: and thou shalt know that I the Lord am thy Savior and thy Redeemer, the mighty one of Jacob." (Isaiah 60:16)
18. Nazarene: "And he came and dwelt in a city called Nazareth: that it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the prophets, He shall be called a Nazarene." (Matthew 2:23)
19. Prince of Life: "And killed the Prince of life, whom God hath raised from the dead; whereof we are witnesses." (Acts 3:15)
20. Redeemer: "For I know that my redeemer liveth, and that he shall stand at the latter day upon the earth." (Job 19:25)
21. Rock: "And did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that Rock was Christ." (1 Corinthians 10:4)
22. Son of David: "The book of the generation of Jesus Christ, the son of David, the son of Abraham." (Matthew 1:1)
23. True Vine: "I am the true vine, and my Father is the husbandman." (John 15:1)

 

[360watt]

Whether or not baptism is considered a sacrament depends on the specific Christian denomination or tradition. However, in general, baptism is seen as a significant ritual or ceremony that is believed to have spiritual benefits and is often considered a necessary part of the Christian faith.

In Protestant denominations, the understanding of baptism varies widely. Some Protestant denominations, such as Baptists and some Evangelical churches, do not consider baptism to be a sacrament, but rather an ordinance or a symbolic act of obedience. Other Protestant denominations, such as Lutherans and Anglicans, do consider baptism to be a sacrament, but they may have different understandings of its significance and effects.

So it's not really that cut and dry.

The bible itself is the objective standard. That is quite clear on baptism. Alot of denominations simply don't believe the Bible fully.

 

[Lily]

The bible itself is the objective standard. That is quite clear on baptism. Alot of denominations simply don't believe the Bible fully.