Frank Russell
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What's up with that anachronism anyway? John, the baptist.
John was not a baptist.
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Rockerduck
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John the Baptizer is what he is known by.
Complete
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'The next day he (John) saw Jesus coming toward him, and said,
“Behold, the Lamb of God, Who takes away the sin of the world!
This is He of Whom I said, ‘After me comes a man Who ranks before me,
because He was before me.’
I myself did not know Him,
but for this purpose I came baptizing with water,
that He might be revealed to Israel.”
(John 1:29-31 ESV)
“Behold, the Lamb of God, Who takes away the sin of the world!
This is He of Whom I said, ‘After me comes a man Who ranks before me,
because He was before me.’
I myself did not know Him,
but for this purpose I came baptizing with water,
that He might be revealed to Israel.”
(John 1:29-31 ESV)
Frank Russell
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Yeah, that translation makes more sense. and less biased.
Complete
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Hello Frank,
There is no bias involved in the text, with respect any bias must be in the eye of the beholder. It is a matter of perception, based on outside influences.
In Christ Jesus
Chris
jeremiah1five
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If I prepare meals, I'm a cook.
If I repair cars, I'm an auto mechanic.
If I baptize people in water or lemon juice, I'm a baptizer.
And if I reply to your post, I'm a right.
If I repair cars, I'm an auto mechanic.
If I baptize people in water or lemon juice, I'm a baptizer.
And if I reply to your post, I'm a right.
Clay
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He was called "The Baptist" because his practice was to baptize those who responded to the message he proclaimed and sincerely repented of their sins ( Matt 3:1 ; Mark 6:14 ; Luke 7:20 ). John was an end-times prophet. He conducted his ministry with an eschatological authority that demanded immediate action.
Frank Russell
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He was the end of the law and prophets age prophet, the last one.
John the Immerser
www.biblegateway.com
Bible Gateway passage: Matthew 3:1-2 - Tree of Life Version
John’s Witness to Israel’s Leaders - In those days, John the Immerser came proclaiming in the wilderness of Judea, “Turn away from your sins, for the kingdom of heaven is near!”
Bob Carabbio
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Pure silliness. John BAPTIZED so obviously he was a "baptist". And then in the 17th century Roger Williams formed his "Baptist Denomination".
Frank Russell
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Yepp, but he didn't have baptist theology like some trail of blood people might like to think.
Bob Carabbio
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"Trail of Blood" is nothing but "just another theology". "Theology" is like noses - everybody's got one.
Frank Russell
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Some people worship Mary as a god, but I guess that's just another theology, everyone's got one.
Bob Carabbio
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BINGO!!! The Roman Catholic "Mary thing" is probably just a re-purposing of the Roman goddess Diana, and the "Apparitions", are nothing but lying demonic phantasms. Oh and "Purgatory" is a Platonic philosophy, nothing more.
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Frank Russell
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You may have noticed when Roman Catholics justify a doctrine with scripture, you read it, and something always doesn't add up. So .. it's probably related to that. I wonder how crazy our theology will look 1000 years from now?
Bob Carabbio
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And, of course the ROMAN CATHOLIC belief that the Catholic LAITY is too STUPID to read the Bible with any understanding.
Frank Russell
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Well, expecting a theology based on logic from the roman empire period of history to understand the bible in a post enlightenment europe context may be a bit much to expect.
Since the enlightenment resulted in a societal myopia that lead to the holocaust, it's probably not a sound foundation either.
I wonder what theology will look like in another 1000 years.
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Bob Carabbio
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Between you and me, I doubt that there will be another 1000 years, probably not even 100 years.
Frank Russell
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I see that possibility too. However, a lot of the prophecy fulfillments in the news are half scriptures and manufactured by the state for distraction. So, the other direction is also pretty possible.
Bob Carabbio
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Chuckle!!! I remember back in the '70s people got all over Billy Graham when he suggested that the "Rapture" might no be a immanent as the "theologians" were teaching (it had to happen in one Jewish Generation from 1946).
It didn't.
