Jesus denied being God

praise_yeshua said:
Notice the phrase "of the Holy Spirit".
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101G LOVE IT, yes OF, OF, OF, OF.... now learn. Genesis 1:1 "In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth."
God: H430 אֱלֹהִים 'elohiym (el-o-heem') n-m.
אֱלֹהֵי 'elohiy (el-o-hee') [alternate plural]
1. (literally) supreme ones.
2. (hence, in the ordinary sense) gods.
3. (specifically, in the plural, especially with the article) the Supreme God (i.e. the all supreme).
4. (sometimes) supreme, used as a superlative.
5. (occasionally, by way of deference) supreme magistrates, the highest magistrates of the land.
6. (also) the supreme angels (entities of unspecified type).
[plural of H433]
KJV: angels, X exceeding, God (gods)(-dess, -ly), X (very) great, judges, X mighty.
Root(s): H433
BINGO, [plural of H433] of, of, of, of, of, H433.....

H433 אֱלוֹהַּ 'elowahh (el-o'-ah) n-m.
אֱלֹהַּ 'eloahh (el-o'-ah) [shortened (rarely)]
1. one with supreme strength and ability.
2. the Supreme Being, God the Creator, Yahweh by name.
3. a supreme entity, a god-like creature (that is, one of God's supreme creations, or one of man's inventions).
[probably prolonged (emphat.) from H410]
KJV: God, god.

my God will they get it now?

101G.
 
Aeliana said:
Who was born? That would be Jesus. Who does the Bible say He is?
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let's PLEASE us common sense with a bit of deductive reasoning. listen to the scriptures,
Matthew 1:23 "Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us." ............... God "WITH" us? how was God with us? by coming in a flesh and blood body. now think was not God with us all along? yes, but now he is personal face to face ... "WITH" ..... us. listen, 1 John 1:1 "That which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we have looked upon, and our hands have handled, of the Word of life;" 1 John 1:2 "(For the life was manifested, and we have seen it, and bear witness, and shew unto you that eternal life, which was with the Father, and was manifested unto us;)" 1 John 1:3 "That which we have seen and heard declare we unto you, that ye also may have fellowship with us: and truly our fellowship is with the Father, and with his Son Jesus Christ."

understand NOW?

101G.
 
101G said:
well now you have two Delima's. A. if the Holy Spirit conceived the child... (and that is true), by definition the Holy Spirit is the "Father". Matthew 1:20 "But while he thought on these things, behold, the angel of the Lord appeared unto him in a dream, saying, Joseph, thou son of David, fear not to take unto thee Mary thy wife: for that which is conceived in her is of the Holy Ghost."

for the conceiver of a child is the "Father" of that child correct. next question, what was "BORN", flesh, bone, and blood, or Spirit? think before you answer.

101G.
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You thinking in human terms, the conception of Jesus is called the miraculous conception. The miraculous nature of the conception is a lot different for us. Also all three members of the God head were involved.
 
Whosoever said:
The miraculous nature of the conception is a lot different for us. Also all three members of the God head were involved.
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LOL, LOL, Oh so the conception is now different...... now .... how is all three member was involved? please provide scripture. 101G have ONE PERSON involved. Matthew 1:23 "Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us." and that one person involved, Matthew 1:20 "But while he thought on these things, behold, the angel of the Lord appeared unto him in a dream, saying, Joseph, thou son of David, fear not to take unto thee Mary thy wife: for that which is conceived in her is of the Holy Ghost."

and that conception, Hebrews 10:5 "Wherefore when he cometh into the world, he saith, Sacrifice and offering thou wouldest not, but a body hast thou prepared me:" and How was it papered? listen, Luke 1:35 "And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God." (smile). Oh my, my, my

101G.
 
101G just cannot believe how ILL informed many Christians are. most of what we're discussing are basic bible study. this should have already been known.

101G.
 
101G said:
let's PLEASE us common sense with a bit of deductive reasoning. listen to the scriptures,
Matthew 1:23 "Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us." ............... God "WITH" us? how was God with us? by coming in a flesh and blood body. now think was not God with us all along? yes, but now he is personal face to face ... "WITH" ..... us. listen, 1 John 1:1 "That which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we have looked upon, and our hands have handled, of the Word of life;" 1 John 1:2 "(For the life was manifested, and we have seen it, and bear witness, and shew unto you that eternal life, which was with the Father, and was manifested unto us;)" 1 John 1:3 "That which we have seen and heard declare we unto you, that ye also may have fellowship with us: and truly our fellowship is with the Father, and with his Son Jesus Christ."

understand NOW?

101G.
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Um this two

(For the life was manifested, and we have seen it, and bear witness, and shew unto you that eternal life, which was with the Father, and was manifested unto us;)" 1 John 1:3 "That which we have seen and heard declare we unto you, that ye also may have fellowship with us: and truly our fellowship is with the Father, and with his Son Jesus Christ."

amazing how that escapes you
 
TomL said:
Um this two

(For the life was manifested, and we have seen it, and bear witness, and shew unto you that eternal life, which was with the Father, and was manifested unto us;)" 1 John 1:3 "That which we have seen and heard declare we unto you, that ye also may have fellowship with us: and truly our fellowship is with the Father, and with his Son Jesus Christ."

amazing how that escapes you
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see above post.... and the "ARM of God".... LEARN. .... o_O

101G.
 
101G said:
LOL, LOL, Oh so the conception is now different...... now .... how is all three member was involved? please provide scripture. 101G have ONE PERSON involved. Matthew 1:23 "Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us." and that one person involved, Matthew 1:20 "But while he thought on these things, behold, the angel of the Lord appeared unto him in a dream, saying, Joseph, thou son of David, fear not to take unto thee Mary thy wife: for that which is conceived in her is of the Holy Ghost."

and that conception, Hebrews 10:5 "Wherefore when he cometh into the world, he saith, Sacrifice and offering thou wouldest not, but a body hast thou prepared me:" and How was it papered? listen, Luke 1:35 "And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God." (smile). Oh my, my, my

101G.
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All three members of the Holy Trinity are always involved. Nothing is different.

And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness. Genesis 1:26

And the angel answered and said unto her, “The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest (The Father} shall overshadow thee. Therefore also that Holy Being who shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God.

The different between the miraculous conception and procreation is there is no sexual activity of conceiving and bearing biological offspring.
 
praise_yeshua said:
Nicodemus didn't hear what those other Jews heard.

Do you even realize how wonderful it was to hear EVERYTHING, Jesus said?

Jesus told others what they needed to hear. It was not always the same message. Neither do you claim it was.

At least employee some basic reading comprehension skills in your rhetoric.
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John 5:18 is just John narrating what the Jewish establishment was saying about Jesus, not what was factually true. It also says that Jesus had broken the Sabbath which, if true, would mean Jesus is a sinner. The point of this verse is descriptive, not prescriptive. I hope that helps.

John 5
18Therefore the Jews sought the more to kill him, because he not only had broken the sabbath, but said also that God was his Father, making himself equal with God.
 
praise_yeshua said:
100 percent is a man made distinction. Have you ever read of 100 percent in the Scriptures?

If you really want to make this about the Scriptures then do so.

100 percent is just a representation. Even human being are not all the same. We vary from one another. Ever heard of "traits"?

God revitalized bodies of Sarah and Abraham to create their son Isaac. Jesus Christ wasn't made after the results of sin you find your own body.

It would be good if you really knew the Scriptures instead of just what your Bible College professor knew. He is limiting you.
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You can't write books like this if you only knew what your teachers taught you... https://www.carb-fat.com/jesus.html
 
Runningman said:
John 5:18 is just John narrating what the Jewish establishment was saying about Jesus, not what was factually true. It also says that Jesus had broken the Sabbath which, if true, would mean Jesus is a sinner. The point of this verse is descriptive, not prescriptive. I hope that helps.

John 5
18Therefore the Jews sought the more to kill him, because he not only had broken the sabbath, but said also that God was his Father, making himself equal with God.
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Jesus is the SABBATH. Jesus is our REST alone.

You're excluding the fact that Jesus defended His disciple while ignoring their sin. Which is what Christ does rather often.

Jesus didn't do what His disciples did. He simply defended them from their condemnation.

He was their REST.......

Serving days like you do is rather silly. I'll serve Jesus Christ while you insist He is my idol.
 

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