Jesus denied being God

[praise_yeshua]

Listen brother, 101G is not denying the human nature of Christ, as a matter of fact promoting it. understand by TAKING PART in our humanity, he suffer the death even the cross... ok. but understand 101G, he "took part" in our humanity, (his suffering), but was not a "PARTAKER" of it. meaning he was not born as you and 101G are... ok. God is NEVER BORN, he is GIVEN, he in the EQUAL SHARE only took on or took part in flesh and blood for the IDENITY, or identifying with us in his suffering for the cross for our sins.

101G.

I understand your argument. I understand the desire to Glorify the Son. I appreciate this in your theology. However, in some ways, this can be seen as another form of Unitarianism.

Christ also shared in our innocence as a child. He grew. He became an adult. Even in the womb, He was no less God.

 

[praise_yeshua]

God has no seed, this is what 101G explained above.

101G.

Except a seed fall to the ground brother......

Joh 12:23 And Jesus answered them, saying, The hour is come, that the Son of man should be glorified.
Joh 12:24 Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except a corn of wheat fall into the ground and die, it abideth alone: but if it die, it bringeth forth much fruit.

 

[101G]

this can be seen as another form of Unitarianism.

HOW?

101G.

 

[101G]

Except a seed fall to the ground brother......

Joh 12:23 And Jesus answered them, saying, The hour is come, that the Son of man should be glorified.
Joh 12:24 Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except a corn of wheat fall into the ground and die, it abideth alone: but if it die, it bringeth forth much fruit.

God is complete in all thing. and as for seed, which God is a Spirit.... question, "where do you think your spirit come from that reside in a body of flesh and blood? answer, Isaiah 42:5 "Thus saith God the LORD, he that created the heavens, and stretched them out; he that spread forth the earth, and that which cometh out of it; he that giveth breath unto the people upon it, and spirit to them that walk therein:"

all spirit come from God, our bodies are only vessels that contain the spirit that is in it. are you understanding now?

101G.

 

[praise_yeshua]

God is complete in all thing. and as for seed, which God is a Spirit.... question, "where do you think your spirit come from that reside in a body of flesh and blood? answer, Isaiah 42:5 "Thus saith God the LORD, he that created the heavens, and stretched them out; he that spread forth the earth, and that which cometh out of it; he that giveth breath unto the people upon it, and spirit to them that walk therein:"

all spirit come from God, our bodies are only vessels that contain the spirit that is in it. are you understanding now?

101G.

God animated all the animals and all life on the earth. Where did such temporal life come from?

These are good questions that should be addressed and are important to understanding the Hypostatic Union.

Adam was smart and different from the remainder of life. Eve was taken from Adam. We are the offspring of that union. We have life without the direct "breath of God".

Think about this for a while.....

 

[Aeliana]

ok, if that's true, please tell us HOW MUCH of the Spirit was G2758 κενόω kenoo (ke-no-ō')? ... was the Spirit Made empty only1/3 for the person of the son. for remember it has been stated, ... that it's ONE Spirit, and three Persons. so, how much of the ONE Spirit was G2758 κενόω kenoo (ke-no-ō')? for the person ... (son) to come in flesh. that's all 101G needs to KNOW. book chapter and verse please. as said, was the Spirit G2758 κενόω kenoo 1/3, or 1/2 or all of the Spirit was G2758 κενόω kenoo or what? ... will be looking for your answer.

101G.

The answer is Jesus is God. Always has been always will be.

Jesus is both God and man. Jesus has always been God, but He did not become a human being until He was conceived in Mary. Jesus became a human being in order to identify with us in our struggles (Hebrews 2:17) and, more importantly, so that He could die on the cross to pay the penalty for our sins (Philippians 2:5-11). In summary, the hypostatic union teaches that Jesus is both fully human and fully divine, that there is no mixture or dilution of either nature, and that He is one united Person, forever.

What is the hypostatic union? | GotQuestions.org

What is the hypostatic union? Is the hypostatic union an important doctrine? How can deity and humanity be merged in one person?

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[101G]

The answer is Jesus is God. Always has been always will be.

Jesus is both God and man. Jesus has always been God, but He did not become a human being until He was conceived in Mary

how was he, (God), conceived? please explain. then we can continue.

101G

 

[mikesw]

how was he, (God), conceived? please explain. then we can continue.

101G

Your question is not worded right for this context. You could ask how Jesus was conceived. Then we only have Luke and maybe Matthew describing that.

 

[101G]

God animated all the animals and all life on the earth. Where did such temporal life come from?

These are good questions that should be addressed and are important to understanding the Hypostatic Union.

Adam was smart and different from the remainder of life. Eve was taken from Adam. We are the offspring of that union. We have life without the direct "breath of God".

Think about this for a while.....

have, and there is no Hypostatic Union. as for "NATURAL LIFE?", scripture, Leviticus 17:11 "For the life of the flesh is in the blood: and I have given it to you upon the altar to make an atonement for your souls: for it is the blood that maketh an atonement for the soul."
understand now?

101G.

 

[101G]

Your question is not worded right for this context. You could ask how Jesus was conceived. Then we only have Luke and maybe Matthew describing that.

ok, go ahead, for Jesus is God. but go ahead......

101G.

 

[Aeliana]

how was he, (God), conceived? please explain. then we can continue.

101G

It's in the Bible, Jesus was supernaturally conceived in the womb of the virgin Mary by the power of the Holy Spirit, and born of her, without sin.

 

[101G]

It's in the Bible, Jesus was supernaturally conceived in the womb of the virgin Mary by the power of the Holy Spirit, and born of her, without sin.

well now you have two Delima's. A. if the Holy Spirit conceived the child... (and that is true), by definition the Holy Spirit is the "Father". Matthew 1:20 "But while he thought on these things, behold, the angel of the Lord appeared unto him in a dream, saying, Joseph, thou son of David, fear not to take unto thee Mary thy wife: for that which is conceived in her is of the Holy Ghost."

for the conceiver of a child is the "Father" of that child correct. next question, what was "BORN", flesh, bone, and blood, or Spirit? think before you answer.

101G.

 

[praise_yeshua]

have, and there is no Hypostatic Union. as for "NATURAL LIFE?", scripture, Leviticus 17:11 "For the life of the flesh is in the blood: and I have given it to you upon the altar to make an atonement for your souls: for it is the blood that maketh an atonement for the soul."
understand now?

101G.

So God didn't breath into Adam and Eve the "breath of life".

A person can be "brain dead" and still have blood pumped through their system. You need to reconsider your appeal to facts.

Yes, if you drain the blood from a body, then it will die. Same is true of water. Same is true of food. If you stop eating for long enough, all the blood you have will not make a difference.

 

[Whosoever]

well now you have two Delima's. A. if the Holy Spirit conceived the child... (and that is true), by definition the Holy Spirit is the "Father". Matthew 1:20 "But while he thought on these things, behold, the angel of the Lord appeared unto him in a dream, saying, Joseph, thou son of David, fear not to take unto thee Mary thy wife: for that which is conceived in her is of the Holy Ghost."

for the conceiver of a child is the "Father" of that child correct. next question, what was "BORN", flesh, bone, and blood, or Spirit? think before you answer.

101G.

Not a what but a Who.

 

[mikesw]

well now you have two Delima's. A. if the Holy Spirit conceived the child... (and that is true), by definition the Holy Spirit is the "Father". Matthew 1:20 "But while he thought on these things, behold, the angel of the Lord appeared unto him in a dream, saying, Joseph, thou son of David, fear not to take unto thee Mary thy wife: for that which is conceived in her is of the Holy Ghost."

for the conceiver of a child is the "Father" of that child correct. next question, what was "BORN", flesh, bone, and blood, or Spirit? think before you answer.

101G.

we are told a child was born. That child is called Immanuel. Not much basis for controversy there.

 

[101G]

So God didn't breath into Adam and Eve the "breath of life".

DID 101G SAY HE DIDN'T?

A person can be "brain dead" and still have blood pumped through their system. You need to reconsider your appeal to facts.

are they moving walking, talking and holding a conversation?

Yes, if you drain the blood from a body, then it will die. Same is true of water. Same is true of food. If you stop eating for long enough, all the blood you have will not make a difference.

well just lose all your blood and see what happens.....

101G.

 

[praise_yeshua]

well now you have two Delima's. A. if the Holy Spirit conceived the child... (and that is true), by definition the Holy Spirit is the "Father". Matthew 1:20 "But while he thought on these things, behold, the angel of the Lord appeared unto him in a dream, saying, Joseph, thou son of David, fear not to take unto thee Mary thy wife: for that which is conceived in her is of the Holy Ghost."

for the conceiver of a child is the "Father" of that child correct. next question, what was "BORN", flesh, bone, and blood, or Spirit? think before you answer.

101G.

Notice the phrase "of the Holy Spirit".

 

[101G]

Not a what but a Who.

glad you said that ... is your body a who? think before you answer.

101G

 

[101G]

we are told a child was born. That child is called Immanuel. Not much basis for controversy there.

no, keep on reading, a "Son" is Given...... remember that?

101G.

 

[Aeliana]

well now you have two Delima's. A. if the Holy Spirit conceived the child... (and that is true), by definition the Holy Spirit is the "Father". Matthew 1:20 "But while he thought on these things, behold, the angel of the Lord appeared unto him in a dream, saying, Joseph, thou son of David, fear not to take unto thee Mary thy wife: for that which is conceived in her is of the Holy Ghost."

for the conceiver of a child is the "Father" of that child correct. next question, what was "BORN", flesh, bone, and blood, or Spirit? think before you answer.

101G.

Who was born? That would be Jesus. Who does the Bible say He is?

First, He is God in the flesh. Jesus said in John 10:30, “I and the Father are one.” At first glance, this might not seem to be a claim to be God. However, look at the Jews’ reaction to His statement. They tried to stone Him “for blasphemy, because you, a mere man, claim to be God” (John 10:33). The Jews understood Jesus’ statement as a claim to be God. In the following verses, Jesus never corrects the Jews or attempts to clarify His statement. He never says, “I did not claim to be God.” When Jesus said, “I and the Father are one” (John 10:30), He truly was claiming equality with God.

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