Jesus denied being God

When the author of Hebrews transferred Psalm 45:6 to Jesus, he was not calling Jesus God Almighty. That doesn't even make sense. He's referring to Jesus as perhaps a god with a little g who has a God.
ERROR, Deuteronomy 32:39 "See now that I, even I, am he, and there is no god with me: I kill, and I make alive; I wound, and I heal: neither is there any that can deliver out of my hand."
now the Word is God. John 1:1 "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God."

so that Lord Jesus, the Word is a "god" error is corrected

101G.
 
God is the source of all goodness and the standard of all goodness. Jesus learned all of his goodness from God and as Immanuel he didn't inherently know the difference between good and evil inherently.
in a G2758 κενόω kenoo (ke-no-ō'), state, so when did "GOD" began to learn? for Immanuel means GOD with us.

101G.
 
FIRST BIG MISTAKE, there is only "ONE" throne. listen, Revelation 4:2 "And immediately I was in the spirit: and, behold, a throne was set in heaven, and one sat on the throne." Revelation 4:3 "And he that sat was to look upon like a jasper and a sardine stone: and there was a rainbow round about the throne, in sight like unto an emerald."

ONE PERSON, ONE THRONE.... (smile)

The Lamb stands before his throne, and as well .... sitting on his throne.

now, if you say the Father sits on the throne. 101G has only one question for you. "Who gave the Father POWER", book chapter and verse please.
because, the one who sits on the throne was given "POWER". see Revelation 4:11

now, once more, only ONE THRONE.... Listen, Revelation 3:21 "To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne." ...... lol, lol, lol, ONE THRONE ONLY.
No verse in Scripture says Jesus is worshipped as God. That's the bottom line. Down goes your theology.

Besides, John the baptist says the Lamb is a man. Your "lamb on the throne is god" doctrine doesn't make any sense in Scripture.

John 1
29The next day John saw Jesus coming toward him and said, “Look, the Lamb of God, who takes away the sin of the world! 30This is He of whom I said, ‘A man who comes after me has surpassed me because He was before me.’
 
That can't be it. Let's try this angle. If you said that there is none good except God alone, wouldn't you, in effect, be denying that you are God? The common sense, plain language, understanding of what Jesus said is he isn't God. Why do you apply a different standard to Jesus on this matter when he never even directly said he's God?
The thing is..you gotta look at the context and other scriptures. Jesus never contradicts other scriptures..so the meaning is something else.
 
No verse in Scripture says Jesus is worshipped as God. That's the bottom line. Down goes your theology.
if true, tells us who sits on the throne, if you say the Father, then post book chapter and verse as to who have more power than the Father to give the Father POWER, for he who sits on the throne was given power.

and 101G have scripture as to the Lord Jesus receiving POWER. .... now book chapter and verse as to who gave the Father POWER, 101G will be waiting for that verse.

101G
 
@Runningman,
Remember..... the one who sits on the throne was worshipped. Revelation 4:11 "Thou art worthy, O Lord, to receive glory and honour and power: for thou hast created all things, and for thy pleasure they are and were created."

101G.
 
if true, tells us who sits on the throne, if you say the Father, then post book chapter and verse as to who have more power than the Father to give the Father POWER, for he who sits on the throne was given power.

and 101G have scripture as to the Lord Jesus receiving POWER. .... now book chapter and verse as to who gave the Father POWER, 101G will be waiting for that verse.

101G
Slow down and take a step back. Your foundation is way off because you have the wrong idea about the thrones. The Father and the Lamb have different thrones and we can share it with the Lamb. That doesn't mean we sit on the throne of God.

Revelation 3
21To the one who overcomes, I will grant the right to sit with Me on My throne, just as I overcame and sat down with My Father on His throne.
 
ERROR, Deuteronomy 32:39 "See now that I, even I, am he, and there is no god with me: I kill, and I make alive; I wound, and I heal: neither is there any that can deliver out of my hand."
now the Word is God. John 1:1 "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God."

so that Lord Jesus, the Word is a "god" error is corrected

101G.
The contexts are not related. In the context God was speaking of in Deut 32 there are no other gods (elohim) but that doesn't mean in the most general sense there are no other gods (elohim.) Others being elohim is all over the Old and New testament.
 
in a G2758 κενόω kenoo (ke-no-ō'), state, so when did "GOD" began to learn? for Immanuel means GOD with us.

101G.
Bad reasoning again. You can't use someone's name to insinuate that they are God Almighty. For example, there are many others who have names that refer to God and they are not themselves God. You need to slow down.

Are all of these people God just because their name relates to God? No? There you go buddy. Learn to study more instead of hastily making bad decisions.

Abijah: "my father is YHWH"
Adonijah: "YHWH is the Lord"
Hezekiah: "YHWH strengthens"
Isaiah: "YHWH is salvation"
Jedediah: "friend of YHWH"
Jehu: "YHWH is He"
Jeremiah (Jeremy): "YHWH will raise"
Joel: "YHWH is God"
Jonathan: "YHWH has given"
Joseph: "YHWH shall increase"
Josiah: "YHWH saves"
Matityahu (Matthew): "gift of YHWH"
Micah/Micaiah: "who is like YHWH?"
Nehemiah: "YHWH comforts"
Obadiah: "servant of YHWH"
Toviyahu (Tobias): "the goodness of YHWH"
Uriah: "YHWH is my light"
Uzziah: "YHWH is my strength"
Yeho'ezer (Yoʼezer): "YHWH is my help"
Yehoshua (Joshua)/Yeshua (Jesus): "YHWH will save"
Yohanan (John): "graced by YHWH" or "YHWH is gracious"
Zechariah (Zachary): "YHWH has remembered"
 
in a G2758 κενόω kenoo (ke-no-ō'), state, so when did "GOD" began to learn? for Immanuel means GOD with us.

101G.
Um... John 8:28 said Jesus needed to be taught.

28So Jesus said, “When you have lifted up the Son of Man, then you will know that I am He, and that I do nothing on My own, but speak exactly what the Father has taught Me.
 
The contexts are not related. In the context God was speaking of in Deut 32 there are no other gods (elohim) but that doesn't mean in the most general sense there are no other gods (elohim.) Others being elohim is all over the Old and New testament.
ERROR, it is speaking of (elohim), GOD, of god, listen and LEARN,
H430 אֱלֹהִים 'elohiym (el-o-heem') n-m.
אֱלֹהֵי 'elohiy (el-o-hee') [alternate plural]
1. (literally) supreme ones.
2. (hence, in the ordinary sense) gods.
3. (specifically, in the plural, especially with the article) the Supreme God (i.e. the all supreme).

4. (sometimes) supreme, used as a superlative.
5. (occasionally, by way of deference) supreme magistrates, the highest magistrates of the land.
6. (also) the supreme angels (entities of unspecified type).
[plural of H433]
KJV: angels, X exceeding, God (gods)(-dess, -ly), X (very) great, judges, X mighty.
Root(s): H433

that took care of both ... (smile), Gods, or gods. :eek: YIKES!

101G.
 
Lets see

John 1:1–18 (NIV) — 1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 He was with God in the beginning. 3 Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made. 4 In him was life, and that life was the light of all mankind. 5 The light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not overcome it. 6 There was a man sent from God whose name was John. 7 He came as a witness to testify concerning that light, so that through him all might believe. 8 He himself was not the light; he came only as a witness to the light. 9 The true light that gives light to everyone was coming into the world. 10 He was in the world, and though the world was made through him, the world did not recognize him. 11 He came to that which was his own, but his own did not receive him. 12 Yet to all who did receive him, to those who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God—13 children born not of natural descent, nor of human decision or a husband’s will, but born of God. 14 The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the one and only Son, who came from the Father, full of grace and truth. 15 (John testified concerning him. He cried out, saying, “This is the one I spoke about when I said, ‘He who comes after me has surpassed me because he was before me.’ ”) 16 Out of his fullness we have all received grace in place of grace already given. 17 For the law was given through Moses; grace and truth came through Jesus Christ. 18 No one has ever seen God, but the one and only Son, who is himself God and is in closest relationship with the Father, has made him known.

John contradicts you






You should have followed your own advise

John identified Christ

John 1:19–30 (NIV) — 19 Now this was John’s testimony when the Jewish leaders in Jerusalem sent priests and Levites to ask him who he was. 20 He did not fail to confess, but confessed freely, “I am not the Messiah.” 21 They asked him, “Then who are you? Are you Elijah?” He said, “I am not.” “Are you the Prophet?” He answered, “No.” 22 Finally they said, “Who are you? Give us an answer to take back to those who sent us. What do you say about yourself?” 23 John replied in the words of Isaiah the prophet, “I am the voice of one calling in the wilderness, ‘Make straight the way for the Lord.’ ” 24 Now the Pharisees who had been sent 25 questioned him, “Why then do you baptize if you are not the Messiah, nor Elijah, nor the Prophet?” 26 “I baptize with water,” John replied, “but among you stands one you do not know. 27 He is the one who comes after me, the straps of whose sandals I am not worthy to untie.” 28 This all happened at Bethany on the other side of the Jordan, where John was baptizing. 29 The next day John saw Jesus coming toward him and said, “Look, the Lamb of God, who takes away the sin of the world! 30 This is the one I meant when I said, ‘A man who comes after me has surpassed me because he was before me.’





Eisegesis

Nothing is stated about God's plan and foreknowledge and his glory was before the world began

John 17:5 (KJV 1900) — 5 And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was.
Spot on brother
 
Bad reasoning again. You can't use someone's name to insinuate that they are God Almighty. For example, there are many others who have names that refer to God and they are not themselves God. You need to slow down.

Are all of these people God just because their name relates to God? No? There you go buddy. Learn to study more instead of hastily making bad decisions.

Abijah: "my father is YHWH"
Adonijah: "YHWH is the Lord"
Hezekiah: "YHWH strengthens"
Isaiah: "YHWH is salvation"
Jedediah: "friend of YHWH"
Jehu: "YHWH is He"
Jeremiah (Jeremy): "YHWH will raise"
Joel: "YHWH is God"
Jonathan: "YHWH has given"
Joseph: "YHWH shall increase"
Josiah: "YHWH saves"
Matityahu (Matthew): "gift of YHWH"
Micah/Micaiah: "who is like YHWH?"
Nehemiah: "YHWH comforts"
Obadiah: "servant of YHWH"
Toviyahu (Tobias): "the goodness of YHWH"
Uriah: "YHWH is my light"
Uzziah: "YHWH is my strength"
Yeho'ezer (Yoʼezer): "YHWH is my help"
Yehoshua (Joshua)/Yeshua (Jesus): "YHWH will save"
Yohanan (John): "graced by YHWH" or "YHWH is gracious"
Zechariah (Zachary): "YHWH has remembered"
LOL, LOL, LOL, Titles are not Personal Names..... Oh my God...... :p

101G.
 
ERROR, it is speaking of (elohim), GOD, of god, listen and LEARN,
H430 אֱלֹהִים 'elohiym (el-o-heem') n-m.
אֱלֹהֵי 'elohiy (el-o-hee') [alternate plural]
1. (literally) supreme ones.
2. (hence, in the ordinary sense) gods.
3. (specifically, in the plural, especially with the article) the Supreme God (i.e. the all supreme).

4. (sometimes) supreme, used as a superlative.
5. (occasionally, by way of deference) supreme magistrates, the highest magistrates of the land.
6. (also) the supreme angels (entities of unspecified type).
[plural of H433]
KJV: angels, X exceeding, God (gods)(-dess, -ly), X (very) great, judges, X mighty.
Root(s): H433

that took care of both ... (smile), Gods, or gods. :eek: YIKES!

101G.
Sigh. This would be a lot easier if you were able to be reasoned with.

So you believe all of the sons of the Most High are themselves YHWH? LoL. 🤦‍♂️

Psalm 82
6I have said, ‘You are gods;
you are all sons of the Most High.’
 
Slow down and take a step back. Your foundation is way off because you have the wrong idea about the thrones. The Father and the Lamb have different thrones and we can share it with the Lamb. That doesn't mean we sit on the throne of God.

Revelation 3
21To the one who overcomes, I will grant the right to sit with Me on My throne, just as I overcame and sat down with My Father on His throne.
ONE THRONE, and only ONE SIT ON IT.

now that answer to "who sits on the throne in Revelation 4 and chapter 5 is it the Father, yes or NO?

101G.
 
ONE THRONE, and only ONE SIT ON IT.

now that answer to "who sits on the throne in Revelation 4 and chapter 5 is it the Father, yes or NO?

101G.
Then you admit that those who sit on the throne with Jesus are Lord God Almighty. That's heresy, if not blasphemy.
 
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