Is open Theism biblical
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101G
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UM... oh yes, "My counsel shall stand, and I will do all my pleasure"
not 101G counsel, nor TomL, or anyone else. .... (smile). lol. case closed.
101G.
Sometimes all means all without exception and sometimes it doesn't according to the Provisionist.
101G
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Nothing there about what his council or pleasure might be
Nothing there states it is his councul or his pleasure to determine all things
Again you simply beg the question
101G
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LOL, LOL, LOL, Oh my learn, .... please. listen for a second, (maybe a second too fast). scripture, Romans 1:7 "To all that be in Rome, beloved of God, called to be saints: Grace to you and peace from God our Father, and the Lord Jesus Christ." is the apostle speaking to "EVERYONE" in Rome? no, for he qualified it. now, Isaiah 46:10 "Declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times the things that are not yet done, saying, My counsel shall stand, and I will do all my pleasure:" is this qualified? yes, case closed.
101G.
all things are not determined
Isaiah 46:10–11 (KJV 1900) — 10 Declaring the end from the beginning, And from ancient times the things that are not yet done, Saying, My counsel shall stand, And I will do all my pleasure: 11 Calling a ravenous bird from the east, The man that executeth my counsel from a far country: Yea, I have spoken it, I will also bring it to pass; I have purposed it, I will also do it.
It is about doing
he points out the idols are powerless unable to do anything
Isaiah 46 (KJV 1900) — 1 Bel boweth down, Nebo stoopeth, Their idols were upon the beasts, and upon the cattle: Your carriages were heavy loaden; They are a burden to the weary beast. 2 They stoop, they bow down together; They could not deliver the burden, But themselves are gone into captivity. 3 Hearken unto me, O house of Jacob, And all the remnant of the house of Israel, Which are borne by me from the belly, Which are carried from the womb: 4 And even to your old age I am he; And even to hoar hairs will I carry you: I have made, and I will bear; Even I will carry, and will deliver you. 5 To whom will ye liken me, and make me equal, And compare me, that we may be like? 6 They lavish gold out of the bag, And weigh silver in the balance, And hire a goldsmith; and he maketh it a god: They fall down, yea, they worship. 7 They bear him upon the shoulder, they carry him, And set him in his place, and he standeth; From his place shall he not remove: Yea, one shall cry unto him, yet can he not answer, Nor save him out of his trouble. 8 Remember this, and shew yourselves men: Bring it again to mind, O ye transgressors. 9 Remember the former things of old: For I am God, and there is none else; I am God, and there is none like me, 10 Declaring the end from the beginning, And from ancient times the things that are not yet done, Saying, My counsel shall stand, And I will do all my pleasure: 11 Calling a ravenous bird from the east, The man that executeth my counsel from a far country: Yea, I have spoken it, I will also bring it to pass; I have purposed it, I will also do it. 12 Hearken unto me, ye stouthearted, That are far from righteousness: 13 I bring near my righteousness; it shall not be far off, And my salvation shall not tarry: And I will place salvation in Zion for Israel my glory.
it does not state he does or determines all things
The point is you claimed the future cannot be known. So the question is, which you will dodge, is how does He know the end if the future CANNOT be known? Your words, not mine.
civic
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maybe I will have a question beggars sub forum and move all of those types of posts to that section
Why would you do that to Tom's posts?maybe I will have a question beggars sub forum and move all of those types of posts to that section
civic
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lolWhy would you do that to Tom's posts?
Question beggars forummaybe I will have a question beggars sub forum and move all of those types of posts to that section
I can think of a few names of the bat
works out does not mean pre-determine
Works out does however. Better yet it's works out ALL THINGS after what? The council of His will, not yours.
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